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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 8 @ 6:50 PM ET
Definitely how you win games. Nothing wrong with playing an aggressive style, but in any system there needs to be smart decision making, it seems Lavy was pressing a reckless abandon over-aggressive attack. Which led to all the stupid.
- GirouxForTheShow


There has to be discipline. The Flyers had playoff success against the Pens because the Flyers got them off their game and burned them when they got undisciplined.

It's how teams like the Devils and Rangers beat the Flyers. Be patient, keep it close or get an early lead, and wait for an overaggressive mistake and burn them.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 8 @ 6:50 PM ET
Definitely how you win games. Nothing wrong with playing an aggressive style, but in any system there needs to be smart decision making, it seems Lavy was pressing a reckless abandon over-aggressive attack. Which led to all the stupid.
- GirouxForTheShow


Unfortunately, I agree. Laviolette simply has to move more towards middle ground in the future.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 8 @ 6:52 PM ET
Maybe a Flyers win will make the flu go away
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Oct 8 @ 6:54 PM ET
Love this article and the things Berube has to say.

http://www.csnphilly.com/...s-influence-darryl-sutter


Especially these quotes.

- MJL


Ehhh.

Quotes never excite me. Let's see what happens on the ice.
the deaninator
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Purgatory, DE
Joined: 08.06.2006

Oct 8 @ 6:56 PM ET
first time on in a while.

What I miss?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 8 @ 6:57 PM ET
Ehhh.

Quotes never excite me. Let's see what happens on the ice.

- 77rams


In the end, you're right. Talk is cheap. But I like what he's apparently trying to do. Myself, and others, I'm quite sure, knows what needs to happen. But teaching it, and getting the players to buy in and actually do it. Is a whole other story.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 8 @ 6:58 PM ET
first time on in a while.

What I miss?

- the deaninator


Berube saw Giroux do a drop pass in warm ups and quit, so now Joe Watson is the coach
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Oct 8 @ 6:58 PM ET
There has to be discipline. The Flyers had playoff success against the Pens because the Flyers got them off their game and burned them when they got undisciplined.

It's how teams like the Devils and Rangers beat the Flyers. Be patient, keep it close or get an early lead, and wait for an overaggressive mistake and burn them.

- Jsaquella


But not discipline in the sense of not taking penalties (although thats a plus) but discipline on the entire scheme. Knowing when to be ultra aggressive and attack the o-zone; when to give up a little ground but attack the neutral zone and turn pucks over. Discipline is needed in every system, the ability to play efficiently within the system. Efficiently being the key word.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Oct 8 @ 6:58 PM ET
Oh TV conversation, great.


Has everyone/anyone watched Orange is the New Black on Netflix? One of the best shows I've seen in a few years.

- shekkie



Yes! loved it
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Oct 8 @ 7:00 PM ET
No one up for American Horror Story? I shouldn't be shocked. I only know one other person who watches it. Last season was terrific but an extremely difficult watch. My wife made it through just the first episode and was done.
- mayorofangrytown

I love it
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Oct 8 @ 7:01 PM ET
No one up for American Horror Story? I shouldn't be shocked. I only know one other person who watches it. Last season was terrific but an extremely difficult watch. My wife made it through just the first episode and was done.
- mayorofangrytown



I really liked season 1. season 2 was good.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 8 @ 7:03 PM ET
Lappy
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 8 @ 7:04 PM ET
At least Coots is playing with Read now....
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Oct 8 @ 7:06 PM ET
Did they say the first line is G, Hartnel, Simmonds?
- Dkos

why yes they did. I'm excited for it.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Oct 8 @ 7:06 PM ET
I really liked season 1. season 2 was good.
- nastyflyergirl


SpongeBob years one and two carried the show. Since then its been too predictable.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Oct 8 @ 7:06 PM ET
1st game of the season ... let's go boys.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 8 @ 7:06 PM ET
But not discipline in the sense of not taking penalties (although thats a plus) but discipline on the entire scheme. Knowing when to be ultra aggressive and attack the o-zone; when to give up a little ground but attack the neutral zone and turn pucks over. Discipline is needed in every system, the ability to play efficiently within the system. Efficiently being the key word.
- GirouxForTheShow


Discipline in that, too, but mainly disciplined play, not getting too overaggressive and overplaying a situation to get yourself out of position to make a play. Being smart and not forcing dumb, low percentage passes.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 8 @ 7:07 PM ET
But not discipline in the sense of not taking penalties (although thats a plus) but discipline on the entire scheme. Knowing when to be ultra aggressive and attack the o-zone; when to give up a little ground but attack the neutral zone and turn pucks over. Discipline is needed in every system, the ability to play efficiently within the system. Efficiently being the key word.
- GirouxForTheShow


One of the biggest flaws in my opinion of Laviolette's forecheck scheme. Go no matter what. It should be read and react. If the player doesn't feel like he can get on the puck, regroup and attack the puck on their breakout along the wall, or high in the O zone, or in the neutral zone. Good teams pressure the puck all over the ice. Not just deep in the O zone on the forecheck. And adjust the forecheck to certain teams. If you feel that you have an advantage and want to jump on them. By all means come out and attack with a 3-2 press forecheck. But if teams move the puck really well, then use a 2-1-2 forecheck that is still aggressive. But also responsible defensively. And also be able to play a 1-2-2 (not a trap) when you have the lead late in games to protect leads and shut it down.
the deaninator
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Purgatory, DE
Joined: 08.06.2006

Oct 8 @ 7:08 PM ET
Berube saw Giroux do a drop pass in warm ups and quit, so now Joe Watson is the coach
- Jsaquella


culture!
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Oct 8 @ 7:10 PM ET
wow Grossmann
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 8 @ 7:10 PM ET
oi grossmann...
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Oct 8 @ 7:11 PM ET
In the end, you're right. Talk is cheap. But I like what he's apparently trying to do. Myself, and others, I'm quite sure, knows what needs to happen. But teaching it, and getting the players to buy in and actually do it. Is a whole other story.
- MJL


New blood on the ice is always exciting. Really so when it's behind the bench. I hope the message is listened to brought with them onto the ice.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Oct 8 @ 7:14 PM ET
Beautiful read by Mason
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Oct 8 @ 7:14 PM ET
they look like they're not sure which system to play.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 8 @ 7:15 PM ET
oi grossmann...
- Giroux_Is_God


Oi.. the whole team so far.
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