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AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 8 @ 4:00 PM ET
The 5-man units in D-zone role had trouble breaking out of zone against its own forecheckers today in the 5-on-5 simulations at morning skate. Hoping things only go uphill from here.
- bmeltzer


Wow. Just...wow.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Oct 8 @ 4:02 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 10/8/13 vs. Panthers
- bmeltzer


0-82 here we come......

It'll be good for the 2nd pick in the draft again.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 8 @ 4:02 PM ET
I can't really think of a realistic trade that would improve the breakout.
- Feanor


There are some; prepare not to have a second-round pick this year, and maybe the next.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Oct 8 @ 4:05 PM ET
0-82 here we come......

It'll be good for the 2nd pick in the draft again.

- hockeylover


Lovely... lots of Reinhart vs. Ekblad vs. Nylander vs. trade down a couple spots and take Kasperi Kapanen talk. Quite frankly, that's a blog topic I don't want to be writing in March to June.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 8 @ 4:05 PM ET
The 5-man units in D-zone role had trouble breaking out of zone against its own forecheckers today in the 5-on-5 simulations at morning skate. Hoping things only go uphill from here.
- bmeltzer


Berube should schedule a controlled scrimmage vs. the Comcast squirts to build up team confidence.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 8 @ 4:06 PM ET
Did anyone watch Burn Notice or Psych?
- PhillySportsGuy


Burn Notice, but I bailed on the last season.
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Oct 8 @ 4:08 PM ET
Lovely... lots of Reinhart vs. Ekblad vs. Nylander vs. trade down a couple spots and take Kasperi Kapanen talk. Quite frankly, that's a blog topic I don't want to be writing in March to June.
- bmeltzer


Bill seems to be a little snarky today.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 8 @ 4:08 PM ET
If they're willing to move Schenn, Couturier, Simmonds or Read, I do.

They won't improve it via trade by offering a pick or Tye McGinn

- Jsaquella


They have to know that this season is only going to be slightly different shades of grey until they get a puck-mover back there.

It's like football, when your offensive line is terrible. You can't evaluate a single position on the team properly on the offense until you get the line fixed.

This team is crippled until it does something about the mobility and puck skills on the back end. The ceiling...the ceiling is clear, and it isn't that high.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Oct 8 @ 4:08 PM ET
Lovely... lots of Reinhart vs. Ekblad vs. Nylander vs. trade down a couple spots and take Kasperi Kapanen talk. Quite frankly, that's a blog topic I don't want to be writing in March to June.
- bmeltzer


On a serious note Bill, are you excited for the Berube era to begin? Do you think his style can translate into getting me to see my first Stanley Cup in my lifetime?

37 years old, but it's been 38 since...
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Oct 8 @ 4:08 PM ET
Bill seems to be a little snarky today.
- KGBflyers10


Despair has set in?
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Oct 8 @ 4:10 PM ET
The 5-man units in D-zone role had trouble breaking out of zone against its own forecheckers today in the 5-on-5 simulations at morning skate. Hoping things only go uphill from here.
- bmeltzer

Maybe that's just a good sign that our forecheckers will look very strong tonight?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 8 @ 4:10 PM ET
Maybe that's just a good sign that our forecheckers will look very strong tonight?
- JAKEw1234


Brian Campbell says "hello."
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 8 @ 4:12 PM ET
If they're willing to move Schenn, Couturier, Simmonds or Read, I do.

They won't improve it via trade by offering a pick or Tye McGinn

- Jsaquella


So we trade one of them for a defensemen, then bench Meszaros (as well as Gustafsson) and this new puck moving defensman improves the breakout all by himself?

There are some; prepare not to have a second-round pick this year, and maybe the next.
- AllInForFlyers


Gonna need a name at some point.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 8 @ 4:12 PM ET
Bill seems to be a little snarky today.
- KGBflyers10


I like Snarky Bill.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Oct 8 @ 4:12 PM ET
So we trade one of them for a defensemen, then bench Meszaros (as well as Gustafsson) and this new puck moving defensman improves the breakout all by himself?
- Feanor

Or trade Coburn for a forward and actually play Mez?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 8 @ 4:14 PM ET
Or trade Coburn for a forward and actually play Mez?
- JAKEw1234


Moving Meszaros to the second pairing would improve the breakout?
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Oct 8 @ 4:16 PM ET
Moving Meszaros to the second pairing would improve the breakout?
- Feanor

Who said he'd have to be 2nd pairing?
Dman X - Timonen
Streit - Schenn
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Oct 8 @ 4:16 PM ET
Bill seems to be a little snarky today.
- KGBflyers10


Despair has set in?
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Oct 8 @ 4:18 PM ET
Despair has set in?
- Flyersgod


Weird
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 8 @ 4:19 PM ET
Did anyone watch Burn Notice or Psych?
- PhillySportsGuy

Loved Burn Notice.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 8 @ 4:22 PM ET
So we trade one of them for a defensemen, then bench Meszaros (as well as Gustafsson) and this new puck moving defensman improves the breakout all by himself?



Gonna need a name at some point.

- Feanor


It would really depend on who the Flyers are willing to part with -- for me, this is such a glaring, obvious problem, without a solution in Adirondack, that I'd pay a lot.

As in something like...Wayne Simmonds, Shayne Goestibehere and a 2nd for Keith Yandle.

Or maybe even Simmonds straight-up for David Rundblad.

At some point, we're going to have to pay, and a lot. It'll look something like that -- Simmonds, Read or Brayden Schenn, for someone else.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 8 @ 4:25 PM ET
It would really depend on who the Flyers are willing to part with -- for me, this is such a glaring, obvious problem, without a solution in Adirondack, that I'd pay a lot.

As in something like...Wayne Simmonds, Shayne Goestibehere and a 2nd for Keith Yandle.

Or maybe even Simmonds straight-up for David Rundblad.

At some point, we're going to have to pay, and a lot. It'll look something like that -- Simmonds, Read or Brayden Schenn, for someone else.

- AllInForFlyers


Getting Streit hasn't fixed the breakout, but getting the younger version of him will? I just don't see it.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 8 @ 4:26 PM ET
true enough. i meant defense is not the only or worst problem. much of the trouble getting out of the zone can be attributed to forwards not giving the D any help in the D zone. the major issue with this squad is lack of intensity and has been for a while
- hogweed



I agree. Number one issue to address is upping the compete level of the team.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Oct 8 @ 4:27 PM ET
Getting Streit hasn't fixed the breakout, but getting the younger version of him will? I just don't see it.
- Feanor

The only thing holding our breakout back is how it's run and practiced.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 8 @ 4:28 PM ET
It would really depend on who the Flyers are willing to part with -- for me, this is such a glaring, obvious problem, without a solution in Adirondack, that I'd pay a lot.

As in something like...Wayne Simmonds, Shayne Goestibehere and a 2nd for Keith Yandle.

Or maybe even Simmonds straight-up for David Rundblad.

At some point, we're going to have to pay, and a lot. It'll look something like that -- Simmonds, Read or Brayden Schenn, for someone else.

- AllInForFlyers


Runblad isn't proven enough in my opinion to give up Simmonds.
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