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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 7 @ 9:42 AM ET
I don't get the Berube thing. I seriously hope it is truly an interim thing.


PhillySteen
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Scania
Joined: 08.02.2011

Oct 7 @ 9:42 AM ET
Wow, 3 games and then gone. Must be a NHL-record, and not of the kind that the Flyers would like to have. I so hope that they actually have a plan, and that it's not a knee-jerk reaction to 'save the season'.
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Oct 7 @ 9:43 AM ET
It's beginning to smell like a coaching change
- Pyzik

jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Oct 7 @ 9:43 AM ET
the coach couldn't survive 3 games...this is exactly why they should have replaced him in the offseason. this is now on homer.
- hammarby31

BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Oct 7 @ 9:43 AM ET
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 7 @ 9:43 AM ET
Everyone who wanted Laviolette out has gotten their wish. The march towards the Cup begins tomorrow night.

Berube baby! What a resume.

Dreger sure was clueless when he threw Berube's name out there last week.

- PLindbergh31


I guess it's ok as an interim, but not long term. Man this smacks of 2006.
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Oct 7 @ 9:44 AM ET
the coach couldn't survive 3 games...this is exactly why they should have replaced him in the offseason. this is now on homer.
- hammarby31


This is Homers desperation to save his job...grasping at straws now
aantny88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Suck it Phaneuf, PA
Joined: 03.14.2008

Oct 7 @ 9:44 AM ET
For the love of...you know, when they gassed Hitchcock, at least John Stevens had been a successful coach at the AHL level -- very successful.

When they gassed Stevens, they brought in a guy who had won a Stanley Cup.

When they gas the guy who won the Stanley Cup? They bring in the guy who, while courageous as a player, ISN'T GOING TO HELP US ON THE BREAKOUT AND HELP US SCORE GOALS, BECAUSE IF HE COULD, HE WOULD'VE DONE IT ALREADY.

- AllInForFlyers


Exactly! Now that Chief is at the helm, how the hell can this team improve on anything? Talk about going from bad to worse!
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Oct 7 @ 9:44 AM ET
let's defend this decision...at least the firing part...we saw nothing over the last 50+ gms including last yr, that gave us any hope of the team being able to make the necessary adjustments to certain teams' strategies and we saw zero indication that this team was moving forward with a different approach in any significant aspect of play.

as for the berube part...i'm ok w/ it if we actually hire someone else after a comprehensive search...though i find it hard to believe that homer didn't already have a short list...
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Oct 7 @ 9:44 AM ET
I don't get the Berube thing. I seriously hope it is truly an interim thing.
- MBFlyerfan

Me too, unless they feel as though he has paid his due and is the man in charge.

If my memory serves me correctly, he has been in charge of PP and PK duties the past few seasons. Maybe he and Lava had some different views on the systems as well. At least let us hope.
StabMastaArson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Why do you want to know?!?!?!
Joined: 05.13.2009

Oct 7 @ 9:45 AM ET
coach, GM or whatever. Something needs to change. The flyers are taking the screws to my fantasy team BIG TIME lol.

I think streit will get better as the season goes on. Hes super slow so he needs a bit of time to learn the system so he can get his positioning down, much like timonen.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 7 @ 9:45 AM ET
Wow, 3 games and then gone. Must be a NHL-record, and not of the kind that the Flyers would like to have. I so hope that they actually have a plan, and that it's not a knee-jerk reaction to 'save the season'.
- PhillySteen


I'm pretty sure they didn't plan on firing Lavi after 3 games. I can't say I hate the move. This team looks a lot like last year's team. You can't fire all the players, so you fire the coach.

Lavi's system is proven to be effective, but it needs to right personnel. They just don't have that with this team.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 7 @ 9:45 AM ET
A whole training camp wasted.
- shekkie


Yup.

Not firing Lavi in the offseason was another howler from the Snider/Holmgren brains trust. Almost as bad as overpaying for Bryzgalov.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Oct 7 @ 9:45 AM ET
the coach couldn't survive 3 games...this is exactly why they should have replaced him in the offseason. this is now on homer.
- hammarby31


Agreed. Lava shouldn't have survived last year to be honest. If the season continues to tank they can bring in a real coach but I guess they don't want a new coach right now bc they hope to turn the year around.

Maybe we start crashing the net again. We get guys who must crash the net to be successful and then play a system of finesse.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 7 @ 9:46 AM ET
I guess it's ok as an interim, but not long term. Man this smacks of 2006.
- Hextall271


I don't think it's that bad. That team had next was REALLY bad. They were the worst team in hockey that year by 9 points.
Flyers24
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.06.2013

Oct 7 @ 9:46 AM ET
Yup.

Not firing Lavi in the offseason was another howler from the Snider/Holmgren brains trust. Almost as bad as overpaying for Bryzgalov.

- Feanor



BREAKING NEWS "LAVVY JUST FIRED..."
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Oct 7 @ 9:46 AM ET
Literally almost no worthwhile replacements presently available.

This move should have come over the summer, but better now than 20-30 games in I guess.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Oct 7 @ 9:47 AM ET
Everyone who wanted Laviolette out has gotten their wish. The march towards the Cup begins tomorrow night.

Berube baby! What a resume.

Dreger sure was clueless when he threw Berube's name out there last week.

- PLindbergh31



how come homer didn't just pull the trigger last yr...maybe because he knows he next...
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 7 @ 9:47 AM ET
So what coach does anyone think could come in and implement a good system for this team?
- Buzzo


Doug Houda, Jacques Martin, Terry Murray, Willie Desjardins.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 7 @ 9:47 AM ET
I am not really encouraged by the Berube hiring. I won't trash it immediately, because he may well turn out to be a very capable head coach.

The lack of head coaching experience worries me. He was head coach of the Phantoms for about three weeks, when he got brought up to the Flyers after the Hitchcock firing.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 7 @ 9:47 AM ET
Yup.

Not firing Lavi in the offseason was another howler from the Snider/Holmgren brains trust. Almost as bad as overpaying for Bryzgalov.

- Feanor


If you were going to drop him three games in, then hell yeah, you should've fired him in the offseason.

Man, I support Paul Holmgren like few others. But if you were gonna drop the guy within 20 games, you should've dropped the hammer in June!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 7 @ 9:47 AM ET
I don't think Lavi's system is "pass the puck right in front of the goalie," or, "Throw the puck up the wall without looking as soon as you get it," or, "try to stickhandle through the entire team."
- jmatchett383



Laviolette this Season has made changes to the forecheck scheme, and the breakout scheme. The current issues are due to a lack of execution, individual mistakes, and worst of all. An apparent lack of intensity, and hard work

The Flyers got pushed around by that small Montreal team in a putrid effort Saturday night.

Maybe they've tuned him out, but it's clearly not working. And he's likely going to pay the price.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Oct 7 @ 9:48 AM ET
Doug Houda, Jacques Martin, Terry Murray, Willie Desjardins.
- Feanor
MrBuzzcut
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.04.2007

Oct 7 @ 9:48 AM ET
Yup.

Not firing Lavi in the offseason was another howler from the Snider/Holmgren brains trust. Almost as bad as overpaying for Bryzgalov.

- Feanor



That really is brutal.

I guess that pointless run of decent hockey at the end of last year bought him training camp and three games.
JW98FlyerFan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2013

Oct 7 @ 9:48 AM ET
It's beginning to smell like a coaching change
- Pyzik

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