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AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 7 @ 11:12 AM ET
Snider is cranky
- nastyflyergirl


I don't blame him -- what do they want him to say?

"Yeah, we should've automatically fired the guy who took us to a championship final in 2010. We shouldn't have given him a chance. But when we did, and we look exactly like we did last year, we should bury our heads in the sand and not make a move?"

This is horrible. But what do they want Snider to say -- not making the playoffs is acceptable, IF you look like you're not going to make it again?
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 7 @ 11:12 AM ET
Snider is angry as hell.
- Hextall271


and he's not going to taking it anymore?
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Oct 7 @ 11:12 AM ET
Ed really sounds like an angry. Like an old man sending soup back at a deli.
- PhillySportsGuy

would you eat soup with a dead fly in it?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 7 @ 11:12 AM ET
Also, a lot of people are shocked by Scott Laughton's current point production. As a few have said before, he belongs in the AHL. The age rule is dumb.
- mcefalu


I'm not shocked by it. I expected it and hope it continues.

I agree he belongs in the AHL.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Oct 7 @ 11:12 AM ET
Ed really sounds like an angry. Like an old man sending soup back at a deli.
- PhillySportsGuy

lol


who was the reporter who asked the Culture question?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 7 @ 11:13 AM ET
Is the presser over? My stream cut out.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Oct 7 @ 11:13 AM ET
and he's not going to taking it anymore?
- hammarby31

Snider orders Homer to trade everyone
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 7 @ 11:13 AM ET
well, I just heard the problem directly from the horses mouth:

Snider: "we don't need a fresh perspective"

Nothing will change until they realize that it certainly couldn't hurt.

- matman31


Well they brought in Hitchcock and Laviolette from outside the organization with decent results in the short-term. Whatever contract Berube has now, he'll be gone if they don't make the playoffs.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 7 @ 11:13 AM ET
would you eat soup with a dead flyer in it?
- vejim


FIFY
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Oct 7 @ 11:14 AM ET
"we don't need a fresh perspective"


As we're at a press conference to announce a new coach.


Aye aye aye. I love the emotion, frustrated at the idea of thinking outside the system

- aosplayo

that one we'll go down in history with "for who, for what?" and " we aim to be the gold standard"
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 7 @ 11:14 AM ET
well, I just heard the problem directly from the horses mouth:

Snider: "we don't need a fresh perspective"

Nothing will change until they realize that it certainly couldn't hurt.

- matman31

What's funny is I think the suggestion is a stupid one, that just because Berube is a Flyers guy he's got some 'un-winning culture' tacked to him. But that quote is gold, Snider walked right into that.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 7 @ 11:14 AM ET
lol


who was the reporter who asked the Culture question?

- Crimsoninja


Walter Cronkite.
mikel33
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 08.09.2007

Oct 7 @ 11:14 AM ET
I think I've heard Howard say on his 610 days that no one cares about hockey.. I could be wrong.. but interesting how he is always in the mix with them
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 7 @ 11:14 AM ET
Is the presser over? My stream cut out.
- johndewar


Yeah, they went to one-on-ones.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 7 @ 11:14 AM ET
Well they brought in Hitchcock and Laviolette from outside the organization with decent results in the short-term. Whatever contract Berube has now, he'll be gone if they don't make the playoffs.
- Feanor


Hitch actually was a Flyers assistant in the early 90's, so even he was kind of a guy they had in the organization before.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 7 @ 11:15 AM ET
First question:
"So coach Berube, how do you plan on keeping your high-paid defense from panicking and blindly throwing the puck up the boards as soon as they get it, as that was obviously a designed part of the former coach's plan?"
Second question:
"Now that you've answered how the defenseman are going to make flawless decisions with the puck, how do you plan to increase chances in the offensive zone? It was clear that the former coach instructed the players to make cross-ice passes when they're on top of each other and to allow defenders to block their shots."
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 7 @ 11:15 AM ET
I think I've heard Howard say on his 610 days that no one cares about hockey.. I could be wrong.. but interesting how he is always in the mix with them
- mikel33


Sports radio hosts in this town have been saying that no one cares about hockey for years. It's why I stopped listening to sports radio.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 7 @ 11:16 AM ET
Well they brought in Hitchcock and Laviolette from outside the organization with decent results in the short-term. Whatever contract Berube has now, he'll be gone if they don't make the playoffs.
- Feanor


Your facts have no place here.
flyers2001
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 01.29.2008

Oct 7 @ 11:16 AM ET
that one we'll go down in history with "for who, for what?" and " we aim to be the gold standard"
- isaiah520


Wasn't Lavy a fresh perspective? What about Hitch?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 7 @ 11:16 AM ET
I think I've heard Howard say on his 610 days that no one cares about hockey.. I could be wrong.. but interesting how he is always in the mix with them
- mikel33

I think he just knows to press the 'persecution complex' button on hockey fans. It's a reliable go to when looking for a reaction.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 7 @ 11:16 AM ET
lol


who was the reporter who asked the Culture question?

- Crimsoninja


Not sure but it was kind of rude the way it was asked. They could have asked "Have you ever thought about bringing in someone from outside the organization to help change the culture?"

Instead it was like "Your team hasn't won in 38 years. Have you thought about bringing in a coach from a winner?"

You knew he'd get all upset about that.

To be fair though, Lavi was an outside the organization guy with a proven track record of winning.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 7 @ 11:16 AM ET
and he's not going to taking it anymore?
- hammarby31


That's ridiculous. So Ed doesn't need a culture change huh? If we miss the playoffs and Homer stays I will lose it.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Oct 7 @ 11:16 AM ET
FIFY
- Tomahawk

you didnt have to fix it...it was implied
matman31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: In Cognito
Joined: 12.14.2005

Oct 7 @ 11:17 AM ET
Well they brought in Hitchcock and Laviolette from outside the organization with decent results in the short-term. Whatever contract Berube has now, he'll be gone if they don't make the playoffs.
- Feanor


I should say that I wasn't referring to the coaches...GM position has been filled with individuals who have been long time Flyers...it's not like other organizations don't produce qualified hockey people. What's wrong with looking elsewhere for once?
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Oct 7 @ 11:17 AM ET
Not sure but it was kind of rude the way it was asked. They could have asked "Have you ever thought about bringing in someone from outside the organization to help change the culture?"

Instead it was like "Your team hasn't won in 38 years. Have you thought about bringing in a coach from a winner?"

You knew he'd get all upset about that.

To be fair though, Lavi was an outside the organization guy with a proven track record of winning.

- PhillySportsGuy

yeah agreed
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