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Forums :: Blog World :: Eklund: Is Steve Downie Out Of Control? Was his hit on Jossi Suspension Worthy?
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weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Oct 5 @ 1:31 PM ET
only thing you could potentially get him on would be charging and even that would be a stretch
- Sheppy99




Looked like 3 steps. What's the rule? More than 3?
allycat
Joined: 05.17.2007

Oct 5 @ 1:38 PM ET
If the players have no respect for each other, quit whining about it! It's up to them.
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Oct 5 @ 1:47 PM ET
This hit is no different than when Kronwall level'd Ryan Kesler. Look at the video, just because he left his feet doesn't mean it was a back check. Kesler put himself in a vulnerable position and he got rocked, that's HOCKEY!!!!

Is Nick Kronwall out of control???



He also left his feet, however slightly on this hit on Clowe...again...is he outta control.

SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

Oct 5 @ 1:51 PM ET
too many bleeding hearts out there.... Legal.... elbow down, puck in play.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Oct 5 @ 1:57 PM ET
You could give him 2 if you thought he began leaving his feet before contact, but it looked clean to me. Hitting is part of the game, and players can't put themselves in vulnerable positions hoping other players let up.
- ky678468


I will skip the rest of the posts that say a version of keep your head up as they are tired and stale at this point.

I get your point, but how exactly was Josi supposed to avoid being a vulernable position there? He just got rid of the puck, Weber was obstructing his view at least partially, and there was nowhere else to go. That's not including the 2-3 strides that that Downie took to gather a head of steam before delivering the blow. Downie saw a golden chance to take advantage of a prone player and make a predatory hit, simple as that.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 5 @ 1:58 PM ET
The hit looked way worse than it actually was.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Oct 5 @ 1:59 PM ET
This hit is no different than when Kronwall level'd Ryan Kesler. Look at the video, just because he left his feet doesn't mean it was a back check. Kesler put himself in a vulnerable position and he got rocked, that's HOCKEY!!!!

Is Nick Kronwall out of control???



He also left his feet, however slightly on this hit on Clowe...again...is he outta control.


- LeftCoaster

Your right lefty but he will get suspended because of his rep. Same as guys like Torres. They make a great hit and the league is all over them because of past incidents. Its not about right or wrong its about Shanahans Ego.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Oct 5 @ 1:59 PM ET
Looked like 3 steps. What's the rule? More than 3?
- weirdoh


With the way the league is going, the rule is 8 steps I believe.
Kidding.

It would be much more difficult for these kinds of hits to take place if the speed of the game was faster, like it should be, and like it was a few years ago.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Oct 5 @ 2:10 PM ET
Downie has been out of control for years.
Mahewman
Season Ticket Holder
Boston Bruins
Location: NH
Joined: 07.01.2009

Oct 5 @ 2:14 PM ET
Good hit. The end.
DrDoom
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Saint Colomban (Take the road , QC
Joined: 09.16.2005

Oct 5 @ 2:16 PM ET
Wow,
Cool hit !
That's for plays like that that 90% of viewers watch hockey !!
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Oct 5 @ 2:16 PM ET
Meh, legal hit, not even a charging penalty. Keep your head up
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Oct 5 @ 2:21 PM ET
This hit is no different than when Kronwall level'd Ryan Kesler. Look at the video, just because he left his feet doesn't mean it was a back check. Kesler put himself in a vulnerable position and he got rocked, that's HOCKEY!!!!

Is Nick Kronwall out of control???



He also left his feet, however slightly on this hit on Clowe...again...is he outta control.


- LeftCoaster

Hit on Clowe looked like 100% legal check. Kronwall definitely left his feet to hit Kesler. Downie hit is fine with me.
rynoisgod
Boston Bruins
Location: In Philly's head. . .there's a, ON
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 5 @ 2:24 PM ET
Lifetime ban. It's the only way to get this crap out of the game. Also, drop the instigator rule so someone can show these pussies what being a real man is all about when they pull this poop.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Oct 5 @ 2:35 PM ET
Let's just get rid of body checking if this hit is illegal. We should also play with plastic sticks and a nerf puck as well. Perhaps a rubber surface as well so that nobody gets hurt if they fall down too.
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Oct 5 @ 2:47 PM ET
legal hit but looked a little too much like superman for him not to get at least a game or 2 for that
TerryB
Nashville Predators
Location: Sioux Falls, SD
Joined: 07.13.2010

Oct 5 @ 2:48 PM ET
Great pic.
- tomburton99


If he didn't leave his feet, then how does he get catch air at the goal line where he made the hit, flying over top of Josi and landing by the "E" in GEICO? That's about a seven foot spanse made after the hit "without leaving his feet".

Ya know, the whole purpose of hitting another player in hockey is to separate him from the puck. If you do this enough over the course of a game, it will wear a guy down. A hit like this when put in perspective is obviously something other than separating the man from the puck.

Some non-fans criticize hockey because of the violence and rightfully so. Guys are dying from repeated hits to the head. It's scientifically proven. Gratuitous hits is the reason why fighting exists. Take out gratuitous hits and you take out fighting. For the fans who love hockey for the hitting and fighting, the game can survive without you. A true hockey fan is a competent one who appreciates the beauty of the game and can enjoy it even without big hits and fighting.

Our society needs to rethink the lack of respect our bodies and physical brains.
PeterThePuck
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 09.14.2008

Oct 5 @ 2:48 PM ET
Clean hit - feet left ice after contact. Led with shoulder on shoulder. Did not take more than 3 full strides into hit.
- Pixote Andolini


Agree on all points.

That being said, Downie doesn't appear to care about injuring another player. Knocking a guy off the puck is the objective, not injuring him.


Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Oct 5 @ 2:50 PM ET
Clean hit, nbd. Its hockey people. It is unfortunate that Josi was injured as he is a very good player but to try and call this hit dirty is a tad silly.

Keep in mind these things are called at "the speed of the game" and its hockey. People will get checked.

NBD really and best wishes to Josi on a fast recovery.
Cherry--Skoal
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.01.2010

Oct 5 @ 2:50 PM ET
Let's just get rid of body checking if this hit is illegal. We should also play with plastic sticks and a nerf puck as well. Perhaps a rubber surface as well so that nobody gets hurt if they fall down too.
- RealityChecker

sarcastipuck?
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Oct 5 @ 2:51 PM ET
If he didn't leave his feet, then how does he get catch air at the goal line where he made the hit, flying over top of Josi and landing by the "E" in GEICO? That's about a seven foot spanse made after the hit "without leaving his feet".

Ya know, the whole purpose of hitting another player in hockey is to separate him from the puck. If you do this enough over the course of a game, it will wear a guy down. A hit like this when put in perspective is obviously something other than separating the man from the puck.

Some non-fans criticize hockey because of the violence and rightfully so. Guys are dying from repeated hits to the head. It's scientifically proven. Gratuitous hits is the reason why fighting exists. Take out gratuitous hits and you take out fighting. For the fans who love hockey for the hitting and fighting, the game can survive without you. A true hockey fan is a competent one who appreciates the beauty of the game and can enjoy it even without big hits and fighting.

Our society needs to rethink the lack of respect our bodies and physical brains.

- TerryB

The picture shows that at the point of contact Downie's feet were on the ice. Pictures proves that. NHL allows the feet to leave the ice after the principle point of contact is established.

And it's certainly no worse than this......
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Oct 5 @ 2:52 PM ET
Agree on all points.

That being said, Downie doesn't appear to care about injuring another player. Knocking a guy off the puck is the objective, not injuring him.

- PeterThePuck


There is really no solid basis for this claim.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Oct 5 @ 2:52 PM ET
sarcastipuck?
- Cherry--Skoal

Cherry--Skoal
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.01.2010

Oct 5 @ 2:53 PM ET
If he didn't leave his feet, then how does he get catch air at the goal line where he made the hit, flying over top of Josi and landing by the "E" in GEICO? That's about a seven foot spanse made after the hit "without leaving his feet".

Ya know, the whole purpose of hitting another player in hockey is to separate him from the puck. If you do this enough over the course of a game, it will wear a guy down. A hit like this when put in perspective is obviously something other than separating the man from the puck.

Some non-fans criticize hockey because of the violence and rightfully so. Guys are dying from repeated hits to the head. It's scientifically proven. Gratuitous hits is the reason why fighting exists. Take out gratuitous hits and you take out fighting. For the fans who love hockey for the hitting and fighting, the game can survive without you. A true hockey fan is a competent one who appreciates the beauty of the game and can enjoy it even without big hits and fighting.

Our society needs to rethink the lack of respect our bodies and physical brains.

- TerryB


Honestly, not to go all Canadian on you. But I think you have been listening to too many bleeding heart country songs. Hockey is not hockey without the hits and fights.

This is hockey.
FinAddict
Joined: 07.02.2010

Oct 5 @ 2:54 PM ET
Lifetime ban. It's the only way to get this crap out of the game. Also, drop the instigator rule so someone can show these pussies what being a real man is all about when they pull this poop.
- rynoisgod

Start watching soccer.
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