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AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 4 @ 1:19 PM ET
we are not in a position to just stick him at #2 center and allow for him to improve. we go out and get vinny and schenn has to be a winger and there certainly is an adjustment period. season 3 was the breakout yr for richards, but the pressure on schenn is greater now than it was for MR in '08. i still think we will see vinny on G's line w/ jake at times, w/ schenn moving in the middle. i could also see a scenario where BS is moved for a scoring winger if ES scoring is a struggle.
- isaiah520


I agree with this; I wish the Flyers could have waited on Schenn at center, but they don't wait on anyone. They do not wait, for better or worse.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Oct 4 @ 1:20 PM ET
Holy crap - Leino cracked a rib in his first game and is out indefinately?
Wow...

Sorry if this was brought up earlier. I feel bad for the guy but I'm glad we dodged that bullet.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 4 @ 1:21 PM ET
Ha! See...that was a prime example of a "mix-changer!" Montreal was sour about that until 2008 -- that trade indirectly got Patrick Roy traded to Colorado, after the Legion of Doom chased him from the net!
- AllInForFlyers



Richards/Carter wasn't a "mix-changer"?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 4 @ 1:23 PM ET
Holy crap - Leino cracked a rib in his first game and is out indefinately?
Wow...

Sorry if this was brought up earlier. I feel bad for the guy but I'm glad we dodged that bullet.

- FlyersGrace



Probably just blind luck, with all the other bullets that have hit Homer square in the face.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 4 @ 1:23 PM ET
i agree with whoever was discussing crashing the net

they needed that in the third and it seemed very obvious to me

drives me crazy

- -davies-



Yep, in that situation, the pretty goals aren't going to be there for the most part. Need to get the puck to the net, and crash then net. Get one of those dirty but good lunchpail goals. And it also helps to score on a PP chance in the 3rd also. But they also need to do the same thing there. Get the puck to the net, and outnumber the opposition at the net. Instead of always looking for cross ice passes for one timers. Blast it from the point wiht traffic at the net.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 4 @ 1:24 PM ET
I agree with this; I wish the Flyers could have waited on Schenn at center, but they don't wait on anyone. They do not wait, for better or worse.
- AllInForFlyers



Seems as though they're waiting on Couturier and Laughton currently. And they certainly waited on Vorack.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 4 @ 1:25 PM ET
Richards/Carter wasn't a "mix-changer"?
- Tomahawk


You know...that one...I've long felt that one had little to do with hockey, other than the fact that the decision was made easier after management realized that they likely wouldn't beat Pittsburgh and Boston with them.

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 4 @ 1:25 PM ET
Richards/Carter wasn't a "mix-changer"?
- Tomahawk


He was talking about early-season trades.

That said, that trade was made during a lockout-shortened season, so the Flyers didn't have the luxury of waiting to see if the problem worked itself out.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Oct 4 @ 1:25 PM ET
Yep, in that situation, the pretty goals aren't going to be there for the most part. Need to get the puck to the net, and crash then net. Get one of those dirty but good lunchpail goals. And it also helps to score on a PP chance in the 3rd also. But they also need to do the same thing there. Get the puck to the net, and outnumber the opposition at the net. Instead of always looking for cross ice passes for one timers. Blast it from the point wiht traffic at the net.
- MJL

gotta put on the workboots and the hardhats
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 4 @ 1:26 PM ET
gotta put on the workboots and the hardhats
- Crimsoninja


Would make it VERY hard to skate.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 4 @ 1:27 PM ET
Yep, in that situation, the pretty goals aren't going to be there for the most part. Need to get the puck to the net, and crash then net. Get one of those dirty but good lunchpail goals. And it also helps to score on a PP chance in the 3rd also. But they also need to do the same thing there. Get the puck to the net, and outnumber the opposition at the net. Instead of always looking for cross ice passes for one timers. Blast it from the point wiht traffic at the net.
- MJL



Need to get into the zone first... I appreciate that they have become more of a puck-possession team, especially with respect to zone-entries, but when the other team is playing turtle, you've just got to dump that sucker in deep and then work your @ss off.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 4 @ 1:27 PM ET
Need to get into the zone first... I appreciate that they have become more of a puck-possession team, especially with respect to zone-entries, but when the other team is playing turtle, you've just got to dump that sucker in deep and then work your @ss off.
- Tomahawk



I agree.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 4 @ 1:32 PM ET
Need to get into the zone first... I appreciate that they have become more of a puck-possession team, especially with respect to zone-entries, but when the other team is playing turtle, you've just got to dump that sucker in deep and then work your @ss off.
- Tomahawk


Saturday's a good game for that to happen -- the Habs are the perfect team to score dirty goals against. They hate it, but it's true: Their forwards are small and can be knocked off the puck.

Just gotta do it.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Oct 4 @ 1:54 PM ET
I sooo read that last line incorrectly. Speed reading can be fun sometimes!
- FlyersGrace



Not gonna lie, I read it the same way
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Oct 4 @ 1:57 PM ET
On a positive note, the Rangers and Devils looked pretty bad last night in terms of defensive play, which is interesting based on the fact that that is supposed to be a significant strength for both clubs.

I'm not convinced the Rangers will be as good as everyone says they will be this year. Hope I'm right.

- mcefalu



I'm willing to bet the house Schneider NEVER gives up a fat rebound like he did on the first Pens goal and Lundqvist never plays so so like he did against the Yotes when they play the flyers
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 4 @ 2:15 PM ET
scud missiles
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Oct 4 @ 2:16 PM ET
scud missiles
- PhillySportsGuy



(frank)in Lavy...


loved "the red bars" too
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 4 @ 2:23 PM ET
I'm gonna get (some) Hell for this, but Gagne seems like a better 3rd line fit than Newbury. I had no problem with Laughton there, but if Newbury is the answer, I'd prefer Gagne on the 3LW and Talbot on the 4th.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 4 @ 2:25 PM ET
LET'S GO PIRATES!
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Oct 4 @ 2:26 PM ET
LET'S GO PIRATES!
- jmatchett383

cant root for any city that prides itself on putting fries on a sandwich
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 4 @ 2:27 PM ET
I'm gonna get (some) Hell for this, but Gagne seems like a better 3rd line fit than Newbury. I had no problem with Laughton there, but if Newbury is the answer, I'd prefer Gagne on the 3LW and Talbot on the 4th.
- jmatchett383


Newbury is a career minor leaguer. Talbot will probably stay on the third line until they are forced to trade for someone who can score.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Oct 4 @ 2:27 PM ET
I'm gonna get (some) Hell for this, but Gagne seems like a better 3rd line fit than Newbury. I had no problem with Laughton there, but if Newbury is the answer, I'd prefer Gagne on the 3LW and Talbot on the 4th.
- jmatchett383



not at all, I said it yesterday. If they weren't keeping Laughton, I really wish they would have brought Gagne back
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 4 @ 2:28 PM ET
cant root for any city that prides itself on putting fries on a sandwich
- Crimsoninja


I just want the Pirates to win because they've been a joke for so long (i.e. "Pittsburgh, City of Champions...and the Pirates). Plus, my wife's from Pittsburgh, although I've converted her to a Phillies' fan.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Oct 4 @ 2:28 PM ET
not at all, I said it yesterday. If they weren't keeping Laughton, I really wish they would have brought Gagne back
- nastyflyergirl

personally im glad they didnt bring him back

can you imagine the drama if they ever decided he needed to be a healthy scratch like he was in LA?

phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Oct 4 @ 2:28 PM ET
Is this a history class?
- JoeRussomanno


no it's refute, add your point, refute again...get your post count up to get a sticker type of day.
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