I'll give you Scrivens. Although I feel Frattin will get better. Not a stud by any means but I think he will round into a pretty good player.
- markmark

So will Bernier

So will Bernier
- t_leafs21

Bernier folks, going to steal the show in Toronto

So will Bernier
- t_leafs21

Agreed. So.... whats your point?

But do you really need three guys who are roughly similar?

Best case scenario is all three develop into top-4 defencemen. I'd be frightened by the idea of two of those guys being paired against a top line.

So if you can swap one for something really good in return, it's worth considering.
- Atomic Wedgie

They aren't similar. One can skate and move the puck, one can hit and shoot the puck, and the third is 19, so he might one day be able to do both.

He has something to prove this year basically, is why hes playing good. He was pissed because leafs let him go, cause they think he sucked and carlyle thinked he sucked, so now he wants to prove himself and hes gunna poop on every team and arguably pot up 70 pts this year with the help of ovie and backstrom
- Mapleleafs_91

Ya he probably will. It shouldn't surprise nor disturb Leaf fans. He would simply NEVER achieve those numbers here, coaching and teammates aside, his career totals attest to that statement. His most successful season was when out top line consisted of him Kule (I love him, but he's a 3rd liner or 2nd line plug) and MacArthur...

Bernier folks, going to steal the show in Toronto
- Mapleleafs_91

And Reimer's job.

Which is totally unfair: Reimer would never steal anything.

It's a commandment.

If you love Frattin so much go to L.A and Marry him

Ya he probably will. It shouldn't surprise nor disturb Leaf fans. He would simply NEVER achieve those numbers here, coaching and teammates aside, his career totals attest to that statement. His most successful season was when out top line consisted of him Kule (I love him, but he's a 3rd liner or 2nd line plug) and MacArthur...
- A_Tree

He actually is a better fit with the caps

Two young nothings for the 11th overall pick in 2006!

Goalies aren't drafted in the 1st round by chance! This guy is for real
- t_leafs21

I'm confused, who are you referring to - Scrivens?

And Reimer's job.

Which is totally unfair: Reimer would never steal anything.

It's a commandment.
- Atomic Wedgie

Not sure if reimer or jesus

I'll give you Scrivens. Although I feel Frattin will get better. Not a stud by any means but I think he will round into a pretty good player.
- markmark

You give to get. As of now, despite the small sample size, I'm happy with Bernier.

I'll give you Scrivens. Although I feel Frattin will get better. Not a stud by any means but I think he will round into a pretty good player.
- markmark

With Clarkson/Kesel/Lupul/JVR/Kulemin/Raymond, plus guys like Leivo in the system, there was just no room for him anyways.

I'm confused, who are you referring to - Scrivens?
- A_Tree

DiPietro.

And Reimer's job.

Which is totally unfair: Reimer would never steal anything.

It's a commandment.
- Atomic Wedgie

DiPietro.
- Atomic Wedgie

When did we start talking about him!?

He actually is a better fit with the caps
- Mapleleafs_91

Thank you. I agree completely.

DiPietro.
- Atomic Wedgie

I actually don't trust goalies taken in the first round. They go bust moreso than they go boom.

You give to get. As of now, despite the small sample size, I'm happy with Bernier.
- A_Tree

Screw Frattin.

If he scores on that breakaway in the third period of game 7 against Boston, we win that game.

We win that series.

Hell, we go on and win the Stanley Cup.

The drought continues because of Frattin.

I hate that guy.

I always will.

Thank you. I agree completely.
- A_Tree

you can see the leafs taking a more canadian, american approach. The caps are like team Europe

Screw Frattin.

If he scores on that breakaway in the third period of game 7 against Boston, we win that game.

We win that series.

Hell, we go on and win the Stanley Cup.

The drought continues because of Frattin.

I hate that guy.

I always will.
- Atomic Wedgie

It burns your soul, doesn't it.

I feel your pain man!

Guys... I am not evaluating the trade. I am saying that I think Frattin will get better.

Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez

Screw Frattin.

If he scores on that breakaway in the third period of game 7 against Boston, we win that game.

We win that series.

Hell, we go on and win the Stanley Cup.

The drought continues because of Frattin.

I hate that guy.

I always will.
- Atomic Wedgie

Truth!

I'll give you Scrivens. Although I feel Frattin will get better. Not a stud by any means but I think he will round into a pretty good player.
- markmark

Frattin on a competitive team is bottom 6 at best.

i like him too... but its the truth

Frattin on a competitive team is bottom 6 at best.

i like him too... but its the truth
- Dozzer

speaking of bottom six...you're in it!

Standings
1. SullyCanuck 36.50
2. Frittata's 34.00
3. Conkey 33.50

4. Casha 27.00
5. LAX1 25.50
6. Dozzer 22.50
7. Moose 22.00
8. DamBrasKiss 21.50
9. Jacq 21.50
10. Zamboners 17.50
11. TheGreatJC 11.00


We're expecting around 10 more, btw.

No comparison.

Once we traded Colborne, I realized he was nothing but a plug.

Ashton is the real deal.

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On a serious note, yes I'll admit that I was the guy advocating for keeping Colborne. A 6'5" centre is something the Leafs could surely use. But wow, did the guy not impress in the pre-season. I was at the Buffalo game, and I was specifically watching him to see if he could do anything to justify my blind faith in him.

Sadly, he didn't. Plenty of giveaways in our end. Nothing offensively.

2 games in, and I'm loving Bolland, so I'm not regretting giving up on Colborne.

But I am troubled by the re-emergence of the Leafs' pattern of giving up on prospects. Frattin gone. Colborne gone.

Yes, I'm happy with the Bernier trade. But we really need to start proving we can develop our own prospects (yeah, I know, Colborne wasn't drafted by us, but you get the idea).
- Atomic Wedgie

Bernie's only 25 I don't mind leafs trading for young guys.