Not to interrupt the bee talk or rehash anything, but the Flyers handling of the Laughton/Hall situation is really moronic.

There was no need to waive Hall and keep Laughton to maximize the LTIR exemption of Pronger, because Laughton's cap hit is actually higher than Hall's.

So basically, the Flyers risked a solid 4th liner, good face off man and penalty killer in order to have Scott Laughton wear a nice suit and get introduced to the crowd before last night's Leafs-Flyers game.
- Jsaquella

May be Laghton was a insurance policy in case Voracek were not able to play?

The Flyers barely get press in Philly. George Parros and his concussion doesn't even exist.

This is why I listen to the fan 590.
- mayorofangrytown

It sucks that almost every year we're a more successful sports team than the Eagles or Phillies, yet it seems like the only time the Flyers even get mentioned is when baseball's over and the news front for the Eagles is totally dead.

IMO 2 changes I would make are:

On penality shots. If you miss the penality shot, then you still get the PP.

Second, If a penality occurs at the end of the period, the team can decide whether to take the full time at the end of the period, to be subtracted from time in the 3rd period, or to end the period and take the full PP at the begining of the next period with the extra time added on. I hate when PP's get cut in half.... Please no John Bobbit jokes....
- youarewrong

Too complicated.

Like this stupid hybrid icing. WTF?

Why couldn't they just put in no-touch? It seems to work for the entire rest of the hockey world.

We have a few people whining about "Goons" playing, but not about taking out fighting.
- youarewrong

That was on this thread. Normal Philly people aren't on this thread man. If I walk into my local hang out and all the guys are there and I mentioned George Parros there might be two guys who know the name and if the stars align one of them might know what happened.

It sucks that almost every year we're a more successful sports team than the Eagles or Phillies, yet it seems like the only time the Flyers even get mentioned is when baseball's over and the news front for the Eagles is totally dead.
- JAKEw1234

Yeah, I don't know how many times I'm in the car with one of the two stations on and I hear someone say "Hockey? No one cares about hockey until February."

Can't get behind a Kuerig. Let me brew my own ish so I can control how strong it is.

I personally didn't see it.
- JAKEw1234

AHHH!! It was the best shift of the game. The place went all blotto for him. He would have scared Bryz!

That was on this thread. Normal Philly people aren't on this thread man. If I walk into my local hang out and all the guys are there and I mentioned George Parros there might be two guys who know the name and if the stars align one of them might know what happened.
- mayorofangrytown

Really? It's not actually like that for me. A lot of people will at least know what happened, even if they don't know Parros's name

That was on this thread. Normal Philly people aren't on this thread man. If I walk into my local hang out and all the guys are there and I mentioned George Parros there might be two guys who know the name and if the stars align one of them might know what happened.
- mayorofangrytown

I'm sorry I laughed. I know he was hurt. But he wasn't hurt that badly apparently. And it WAS funny how he did it.

AHHH!! It was the best shift of the game. The place went all blotto for him. He would have scared Bryz!
- bodiva88

I was talkin about over the whole game. The one shift where Gross went all goalie was amazing

Really? It's not actually like that for me. A lot of people will at least know what happened, even if they don't know Parros's name
- JAKEw1234

My son plays so when I'm around the rink almost everyone knows. In the daily movement of my life... nothing. There's like one guy in my office who likes hockey and he's a Bruins fan and he's about as provincial a fan as you'll ever meet.

That was on this thread. Normal Philly people aren't on this thread man. If I walk into my local hang out and all the guys are there and I mentioned George Parros there might be two guys who know the name and if the stars align one of them might know what happened.
- mayorofangrytown

Is there such a thing?

I'm probably just smoking crack here, but I don't know, the debate on fighting just feels different this time.

Maybe it was the stupidity of a guy 68 lbs. heavier than Kessel jumping him in a pre-season game.

Or maybe the NFL settlement on concussions.

But I'm thinking the the NHL is actually going to do something to get rid of the staged fighting.

But as per above, maybe that's just the crack talking.

I was talkin about over the whole game. The one shift where Gross went all goalie was amazing
- JAKEw1234

Someone needs to make a gif of that. It was epic and should be used for years.

L. Schenn last in icetime last night.

Using the icetime logic, he's the Flyers 6th dman.

OMG, the Flyers traded JVR for a # 6 dman.
- PLindbergh31

He is not used on the PP and since we had what 23 PP....he lost out there....also we did not much PK, so once again he lost time there.....so no big deal......next game he'll play the most!!!!!

Coaches give out ice time on merit in games. Also the game situations come into play. When a team get's behind late in games, A Coach will shorten the bench and play the offensive players more. I just don't think L. Schenn had that great of a game, combined with the game stuation. And his icetime was cut in the 3rd.
- MJL

Schenn isn't an offensive powerhouse which is why probably why he say a lot in the 3rd plus the flyers had a ton of power plays.

Is there such a thing?

I'm probably just smoking crack here, but I don't know, the debate on fighting just feels different this time.

Maybe it was the stupidity of a guy 68 lbs. heavier than Kessel jumping him in a pre-season game.

Or maybe the NFL settlement on concussions.

But I'm thinking the the NHL is actually going to do something to get rid of the staged fighting.

But as per above, maybe that's just the crack talking.
- Atomic Wedgie

You will never be able to get ride of staged fighting without getting rid of fighting. The best way to do away with goons and staged fights is to actually lighten the rules of fighting. Get rid of insitgator and let the players react as play happens. When that happens you will have more fights like Schenn and Lupul, where they aren't fighters, but less chance of someone getting hurt.

Someone needs to make a gif of that. It was epic and should be used for years.
- youarewrong

I could, but I can't even find a replay of it

Not familiar with the Vue. The Kuerig is amazing. It's prob my favorite possession!
- PLindbergh31

Try nespresso (if you like espresso strength coffee)

I enjoy your posts! Would like an update on your bowling exploits? Have you broken 100 yet?
- PLindbergh31

He HAS. At least twice.

I'm just happy Meszaros made it through the game without losing an appendage
- Jsaquella

Although Grossman did come up limping at one point. Then seemed to skate it off.

They're gonna trade Brayden Schenn for Hal Gill.

Oops not allowed to criticize the Flyers personnel moves, because there's got to be something I'm unaware of...
- Jsaquella

Ok. The horse is only dead if it's someone else who's beating it. I get it.

Yep. Seems kind of odd you feel it only applies when people agree with you, otherwise, we get the , "Oh it's no big deal, they know what they're doing" brush off.

And this will be my last comment on the matter to you. You trust them, feel they know what they're doing, swell. I think they've made a few questionable decisions the last couple weeks, and while they haven't had to pay for them, it doesn't excuse it.
- Jsaquella

That I feel what only applies to me? I Don't reply to posters and tell them they have a lot to say about something. I freely engage and am open to anyone who wants to comment on my posts. And I don't discourage debate.

That Hall cleared waivers and was in the opening day lineup, tells me they know what they're doing. All I'm saying is that on the surface, and at first glance, some of the moves are confusing as to why they did it. But they're not idiots. They had to have a reason why they made the moves they did. And maybe if we could sit down and ask Holmgren, why did you waive Hall, and why other moves were made. Maybe he would have a viewpoint that we're not aware of, why they approached it the way they did. And quite possibly there are factors that we aren't considering. I wanted Hall in the lineup as bad as you did. So I wasn't happy that he was waived. But I was willing to let it play out and see what happens. And in the end, Hall is in the li neup. And Laughton is back at Juniors where he can dominate playing 20 minutes a night in all situations. So the outcome was what you wanted, so what's the problem.
I have no reason not to trust them. Or not give them the benefit of the doubt. Do I agree with every move, no! But I see no reason to be upset about nothing happening.

Is there such a thing?

I'm probably just smoking crack here, but I don't know, the debate on fighting just feels different this time.

Maybe it was the stupidity of a guy 68 lbs. heavier than Kessel jumping him in a pre-season game.

Or maybe the NFL settlement on concussions.

But I'm thinking the the NHL is actually going to do something to get rid of the staged fighting.

But as per above, maybe that's just the crack talking.
- Atomic Wedgie

Normal Philly people are Eagles fans. The older ones and younger ones are Phillies fans. Hockey's a cult but a tremendously strong one. Sixers fans watch at home on their TV.

I think this is what it is. It'll go to the GM meetings, someone will table the discussion and enough owners and GMs will agree that the sport needs fighting that it'll die on the table.

Next time someone gets drilled from behind it will be all but forgotten.

Personally I want the goons gone and fighters ejected. I want the refs to call the cheap shots and protect the guys who have no interest in fighting.

Except that entire pot of coffee costs far less than making two cups with those newfangled hockey puck systems.

And he's right, Jsaq - you need to get laid.

I agree with your views on hockey, but it's still good advice.

Quick question: is Parros' concussion getting any press in Philly? Does anyone care (calls to ban fighting) or is it business as usual?
- Atomic Wedgie

We all need to get laid. Without it, it'd be the end of the whole human race.

You will never be able to get ride of staged fighting without getting rid of fighting. The best way to do away with goons and staged fights is to actually lighten the rules of fighting. Get rid of insitgator and let the players react as play happens. When that happens you will have more fights like Schenn and Lupul, where they aren't fighters, but less chance of someone getting hurt.
- youarewrong

Wow, we sure see that differently. Wouldn't mind hammering away at that over a couple beers.