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isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Oct 3 @ 1:24 PM ET
according to XM NHL...

leino out w/ a cracked rib for BUF
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 3 @ 1:26 PM ET
according to XM NHL...

leino out w/ a cracked rib for BUF

- isaiah520

great signing for them
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Oct 3 @ 1:27 PM ET
he was allowed to develop properly
- -davies-


Great so morin should be ready by 33, 34 since dmen take longer
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Oct 3 @ 1:27 PM ET
Doesn't matter, we won't be hearing that much of it anyway.


- tangent_man


funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Oct 3 @ 1:29 PM ET
You apparently do, because the Flyers got the PP. But you want to use a bias against Rosehill to make an inaccurate statement to what actually did happen. And if you want to use woulda, shoulda, coulda. I can do the same and say that Rosehill actually drew the PP by antagonizing Orr. That game is a two way street.
- MJL


I thought Streit was more of a 1 way player
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 3 @ 1:32 PM ET
Great so morin should be ready by 33, 34 since dmen take longer
- funmaster18

C'mon dude, Flyers know better than that.

They'll wait to sign him until he's 35.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Oct 3 @ 1:34 PM ET
C'mon dude, Flyers know better than that.

They'll wait to sign him until he's 35.

- BulliesPhan87


isnt that when Pronger comes off the cap too?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 3 @ 1:35 PM ET
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albuquerque_Isotopes

Named for a Simpsons episode in which the Springfield Isotopes are secretly being sold to Albuquerque.

- BulliesPhan87

Oh, I thought they were Mexican speed bumps.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Oct 3 @ 1:38 PM ET
bradleyc stop making me agree with MJL, hes right in this situation
- flyershockey


He's wrong.

Let's go to the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3twF7OjMUOY

As Ray Ferraro states, Fraser commits the first penalty. Play continues and Rosehill hammers Fraser. At this point in time, instead of a Flyers PP, Rosehill evens up the penalties. Then Colton Orr decks Rosehill and the Flyers get a PP.

Clearly not "one play." If Rosehill never hits Fraser after the initial call on Fraser, they keep playing until the Leafs touch the puck and the Flyers get their PP.

But apply bias wherever you deem necessary, as I am apparently.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 3 @ 1:40 PM ET
isnt that when Pronger comes off the cap too?
- funmaster18

I assumed Pronger was never coming off the cap. At least, it feels that way.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 3 @ 1:41 PM ET
He's wrong.

Let's go to the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3twF7OjMUOY

As Ray Ferraro states, Fraser commits the first penalty. Play continues and Rosehill hammers Fraser. At this point in time, instead of a Flyers PP, Rosehill evens up the penalties. Then Colton Orr decks Rosehill and the Flyers get a PP.

Clearly not "one play." If Rosehill never hits Fraser after the initial call on Fraser, they keep playing until the Leafs touch the puck and the Flyers get their PP.

But apply bias wherever you deem necessary, as I am apparently.

- bradleyc4


The point is, at the point that he "boards" Fraser, he has evened up the play. It is later changed back to the Flyers favor because Colton Orr is a moron. But, at the time that he committed his infraction, he had taken away a Flyer PP, and was only saved because Colton Orr is, unfortunately, Colton Orr.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 3 @ 1:42 PM ET
I assumed Pronger was never coming off the cap. At least, it feels that way.
- BulliesPhan87


He comes off the Flyers cap when Bettman steps down.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Oct 3 @ 1:43 PM ET
He's wrong.

Let's go to the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3twF7OjMUOY

As Ray Ferraro states, Fraser commits the first penalty. Play continues and Rosehill hammers Fraser. At this point in time, instead of a Flyers PP, Rosehill evens up the penalties. Then Colton Orr decks Rosehill and the Flyers get a PP.

Clearly not "one play." If Rosehill never hits Fraser after the initial call on Fraser, they keep playing until the Leafs touch the puck and the Flyers get their PP.

But apply bias wherever you deem necessary, as I am apparently.

- bradleyc4



If Orr isn't out there, I'm willing to bet its 4 on 4. Rosehill cost the flyers a PP and Orr gave it back.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 3 @ 1:44 PM ET
The point is, at the point that he "boards" Fraser, he has evened up the play. It is later changed back to the Flyers favor because Colton Orr is a moron. But, at the time that he committed his infraction, he had taken away a Flyer PP, and was only saved because Colton Orr is, unfortunately, Colton Orr.
- jmatchett383

Your ability to rephrase is impeccable.

Salute!!!
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Oct 3 @ 1:44 PM ET
The point is, at the point that he "boards" Fraser, he has evened up the play. It is later changed back to the Flyers favor because Colton Orr is a moron. But, at the time that he committed his infraction, he had taken away a Flyer PP, and was only saved because Colton Orr is, unfortunately, Colton Orr.
- jmatchett383


Yes, that's what I'm saying.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 3 @ 1:45 PM ET
Rosehill's hit shouldn't have been called a penalty, and Orr should have got five minutes for cross checking him in the neck.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 3 @ 1:46 PM ET
Your ability to rephrase is impeccable.

Salute!!!

- mayorofangrytown


Thanks for noticing.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 3 @ 1:47 PM ET
The point is, at the point that he "boards" Fraser, he has evened up the play. It is later changed back to the Flyers favor because Colton Orr is a moron. But, at the time that he committed his infraction, he had taken away a Flyer PP, and was only saved because Colton Orr is, unfortunately, Colton Orr.
- jmatchett383


Yep. He did cost the Flyers a PP but Orr gave it back.

And they squandered it.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 3 @ 1:49 PM ET
Rosehill's hit shouldn't have been called a penalty, and Orr should have got five minutes for cross checking him in the neck.
- Feanor


Absolutely. I didn't see a replay, but the Rosehill hit looked shoulder-to-shoulder.

Also, on the first PP where Read got high sticked, that is a prime example of why high sticking should be re-examined. Ranger basically chopped him in the face, basically a slash. But because read wasn't bleeding, it was only 2 minutes. I'm not here to berate the refs, as the Flyers got the benefit of a lot of calls (and non calls), but that was a much more dangerous play than a guy getting clipped and having a small gash.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Oct 3 @ 1:49 PM ET
i also miss doop
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 3 @ 1:50 PM ET
Thanks for noticing.
- jmatchett383

Who couldn't notice man. You're a frickin' lensflare in the murky depths of this thread.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 3 @ 1:52 PM ET
Who couldn't notice man. You're a frickin' lensflare in the murky depths of this thread.
- mayorofangrytown


I'm not sure what a lensflare is, so I'm just going to assume it means a good-looking, well-muscled man who likes to eat steak. And so i thank you.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 3 @ 1:53 PM ET
i also miss doop
- Crimsoninja

Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 3 @ 1:54 PM ET
I'm not sure what a lensflare is, so I'm just going to assume it means a good-looking, well-muscled man who likes to eat steak. And so i thank you.
- jmatchett383

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 3 @ 1:55 PM ET
I thought Streit was more of a 1 way player
- funmaster18



He played well last night I thought.
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