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phatpat44
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NS
Joined: 04.18.2010

Oct 2 @ 10:18 AM ET
Link or opinion?
- MBFlyerfan


http://instagram.com/p/e98bgzw_CC/
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 2 @ 10:19 AM ET
I would rather see:
Schenn-Lacavalier-Read
Talbot-Couturier-Simmonds

Better balance defensively and both lines should be able to score.

- BiggE


I'd switch Schenn and Simmonds. I think Simmonds is a 2nd line player without a doubt.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 2 @ 10:20 AM ET
I would rather see:
Schenn-Lacavalier-Read
Talbot-Couturier-Simmonds

Better balance defensively and both lines should be able to score.

- BiggE


Wouldn't mind those lines either. I've voiced my opinion many times about moving Voracek from the first line to help balance the lines and give more scoring. No one seems to be in agreement with that. I feel Giroux can pretty much score with almost anyone on his line.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 2 @ 10:21 AM ET
http://instagram.com/p/e98bgzw_CC/
- phatpat44


I am somewhat surprised at this news.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 2 @ 10:21 AM ET
If 9 happens, it wouldn't crack me up, it would make me extremely happy.
- jmatchett383


Me too, the 2 aren't mutually exclusive

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 2 @ 10:22 AM ET
http://instagram.com/p/e98bgzw_CC/
- phatpat44


That's surprising. I guess we should learn to expect the unexpected when it comes to the Flyers goaltending situation each year.
ShayneCorsi
Location: Teedot
Joined: 07.09.2012

Oct 2 @ 10:22 AM ET
Respect the flyers. I'd be happy with a point tonight. I hope we see a few good tits tonight....Cheers
- clark_griswold


I would love to see that too!
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 2 @ 10:22 AM ET
Wouldn't mind those lines either. I've voiced my opinion many times about moving Voracek from the first line to help balance the lines and give more scoring. No one seems to be in agreement with that. I feel Giroux can pretty much score with almost anyone on his line.
- PhillySportsGuy


Actually, I agree with that -- I think the pairing of Schenn-Voracek has worked well.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Oct 2 @ 10:23 AM ET
We don't need your negativity. It hurts the team. What do you think the players do before a game? They read Hockeybuzz!
- PhillySportsGuy


im allowed to be realistic. although thats gotten me banned before i think.

ok you got me.

flyers fixed 3 years of poor team defense in 3 practices! go flyers!
phatpat44
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NS
Joined: 04.18.2010

Oct 2 @ 10:24 AM ET
Wouldn't mind those lines either. I've voiced my opinion many times about moving Voracek from the first line to help balance the lines and give more scoring. No one seems to be in agreement with that. I feel Giroux can pretty much score with almost anyone on his line.
- PhillySportsGuy


I agree with this. Schenn played very well when voracek was on his line last year, if i remember correctly.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 2 @ 10:25 AM ET
Actually, I agree with that -- I think the pairing of Schenn-Voracek has worked well.
- AllInForFlyers




They have worked well together. At the start of last season, Schenn had his best scoring streak when playing with Voracek.

I would also love to see a natural sniper like Vinny play with Giroux. All he needs his a little time and space. That's something Giroux can give him.

If Vinny plays with Schenn and Simmonds, he will need to be the primary puckhandler and set up man.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Oct 2 @ 10:25 AM ET
I would rather see:
Schenn-Lacavalier-Read
Talbot-Couturier-Simmonds

Better balance defensively and both lines should be able to score.

- BiggE


i agree, break up the boneheads schenn and simmonds
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 2 @ 10:25 AM ET
Wouldn't mind those lines either. I've voiced my opinion many times about moving Voracek from the first line to help balance the lines and give more scoring. No one seems to be in agreement with that. I feel Giroux can pretty much score with almost anyone on his line.
- PhillySportsGuy


They have a lot of flexibility. Read is really the key as he can play on either wing on any of the top 3 lines and fit right in. One interesting look could be:
Hartnell-Giroux-Simmonds
Schenn-Lacavalier-Voracek
Talbot-Couturier Read

The one thing that I think is important though, is keeping Schenn in the same spot as much as possible. If you are going to move a young, relatively inexperienced player to a new position, it would be a good idea to pair him with the same linemates as much as possible.
ShayneCorsi
Location: Teedot
Joined: 07.09.2012

Oct 2 @ 10:25 AM ET
Just beware of Danny Briere, their new power forward. At 5'10, he is officially the tallest Hab (minus Parros) on the team by quite a wide margin.
- jmatchett383


I didn't really notice Briere at all last night....
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 2 @ 10:28 AM ET
I didn't really notice Briere at all last night....
- Captain_Quiffe


You probably won't for the next 81 games either. I love the guy but he is pretty much a playoff specialist at this point.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 2 @ 10:29 AM ET
They have a lot of flexibility. Read is really the key as he can play on either wing on any of the top 3 lines and fit right in. One interesting look could be:
Hartnell-Giroux-Simmonds
Schenn-Lacavalier-Voracek
Talbot-Couturier Read

The one thing that I think is important though, is keeping Schenn in the same spot as much as possible. If you are going to move a young, relatively inexperienced player to a new position, it would be a good idea to pair him with the same linemates as much as possible.

- BiggE


I agree about keeping Schenn at the same spot. I just wish it was center. He seems more comfortable there.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 2 @ 10:32 AM ET
im allowed to be realistic. although thats gotten me banned before i think.

ok you got me.

flyers fixed 3 years of poor team defense in 3 practices! go flyers!

- Just5


Why are you even here? If you're gonna do nothing but female dog and moan and expect them to lose, why be a fan?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 2 @ 10:32 AM ET
i agree, break up the boneheads schenn and simmonds
- Just5


Yeah. They have pushing for Schenn and Simmonds to play together for a while now. They are both 2nd line talents, but just don't play well together.

I want Simmonds to simplify his game. More point A to Point B stuff. He needs to watch Hartnell when Hartnell is on his game.
Trainfellow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.23.2012

Oct 2 @ 10:33 AM ET
I didn't really notice Briere at all last night....
- Captain_Quiffe


Saw he had a setup in his sweet spot back door but couldnt bury
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 2 @ 10:33 AM ET
10 things that if they happen would utterly crack me up this year.

1. The Rangers score only 15 goals in their 1st 20 games, Hank demands a trade.

2. John Tortorella is arrested for assault after going postal on a Vancouver reporter who has the nerve to actually ask him a question following a Canuck loss.

3. Vinnie Lacavalier scores 2 hat tricks this season, both against the Lightning.

4. Sidney Crosby stays healthy, avoids concussions and plays all 82 games. He then sprains his knee in his 1st shift in game one of the playoffs and the Pens go out in the 1st round.

5. The Red Wings miss the playoffs, the Sens don't. How ya feelin now Alfie?

6. Pierre Maguire announces he is leaving his wife and is moving in with the true love of his life, Sidney Crosby.

7. Gary Bettman is traded back to the NBA for 2 used basketballs and future considerations.

8. The Devils finish with the worst record in the league in the one year they have no 1st round pick.

9. Laughton, Hall and Rosehill all have good seasons and Talbot looks fine as the 3rd line LW

10. Hal Gill steps in when Grossmann inevitably gets hurt and plays well, especially on the PK.

GO FLYERS!!

- BiggE


8 is very plausible
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 2 @ 10:33 AM ET
They have a lot of flexibility. Read is really the key as he can play on either wing on any of the top 3 lines and fit right in. One interesting look could be:
Hartnell-Giroux-Simmonds
Schenn-Lacavalier-Voracek
Talbot-Couturier Read

The one thing that I think is important though, is keeping Schenn in the same spot as much as possible. If you are going to move a young, relatively inexperienced player to a new position, it would be a good idea to pair him with the same linemates as much as possible.

- BiggE


Saw it last night with Taylor Hall from Edmonton's, who's playing center for them with Ryan Nugent-Hopkins and Sam Gagner out. He struggled a bit, which is to be expected, but they left him in the position, with the same linemates, despite the mistakes.

I think (and hope) the shift from center to wing is easier. But it might not be seamless. So you're correct: If you're going to do this with Schenn, they have to say that this is what it is and leave it that way, so he develops that way.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 2 @ 10:33 AM ET
I agree about keeping Schenn at the same spot. I just wish it was center. He seems more comfortable there.
- PhillySportsGuy


Perhaps, but lets give him some time. Hopefully after he plays 15-20 games on the wing he will start to look comfortable there as well.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 2 @ 10:34 AM ET
Why are you even here? If you're gonna do nothing but female dog and moan and expect them to lose, why be a fan?
- jmatchett383


I think you can be a fan and still expect your team to lose. I'm a fan of the Eagles and I expected them to lose badly last Sunday.

He's just voicing his opinion. I think it's more concern. I'll admit that I'm very concerned about this team.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 2 @ 10:35 AM ET
Saw it last night with Taylor Hall from Edmonton's, who's playing center for them with Ryan Nugent-Hopkins and Sam Gagner out. He struggled a bit, which is to be expected, but they left him in the position, with the same linemates, despite the mistakes.

I think (and hope) the shift from center to wing is easier. But it might not be seamless. So you're correct: If you're going to do this with Schenn, they have to say that this is what it is and leave it that way, so he develops that way.

- AllInForFlyers


You'd think moving from center to wing should be easy, as it's more north-south and you don't have to cover as far down low defensively. But for some reason, some guys need to be centers.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 2 @ 10:36 AM ET
I would rather see:
Schenn-Lacavalier-Read
Talbot-Couturier-Simmonds

Better balance defensively and both lines should be able to score.

- BiggE



I see the opposite, I think that 3rd line takes away from the defense. If the Couturier line is going to be the line that is used the most, to check oppostion top lines. There's know way I want Simmonds on that line. He's just not very good defensively, and he turns the puck over too much. I want Read in that spot.
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