I really hope that wasn't it. Laughton's not a shrinking violet, he's got a bit of nasty to his game
- Jsaquella

Last thing they need is Laughton thinking that his "bit nasty" will go over very well against a fired up Toronto team.

The flashy loud poop can get annoying, but it wouldn't bother me if they'd turn the volume down even a notch. Everytime I go, it's oppressively loud. We've got a loud passionate fanbase, the WFC should quit covering it up.

Sorry to steal your thunder here, Bo.
- BulliesPhan87

It does get brutally loud. When I take my kids they want to leave because it's too loud for them

For the few advocating Rosehill dressing, I would like to hear their take on how the Blackhawks and Red Wings are going to combat the imposing presence of Colton Orr.

It was, in purest terms, a hockey trade. Both teams got a much needed asset. JvR is going to be more flashy and certainly score more goals, but a guy like Schenn is generally on the roster of most teams that win Stanley Cups and make deep playoff runs.

Even if JvR develops more quickly, it should be expected. Defensemen usually take longer, and Schenn has some bad habits to break from when he was tossed into the fire as a kid playing 20 minutes for a bad Leafs team
- Jsaquella

fixed

So was Couturier when he scored the playoff hat trick against the Pens.
- Jsaquella

Yea, but I don't want to see Laughton involved in that type of BS so early. It'd be tough to evaluate him if he's in the box, excused to the dressing room for the evening, or worse, in the trainer's room.

With the Canadians, Car, Fla, Phx, Det, Van coming up next on the schedule, I rather see what he can do on the ice at this time.

Last thing they need is Laughton thinking that his "bit nasty" will go over very well against a fired up Toronto team.
- youarewrong

Yeah. Let's look at the schedule and hide him from every team that plays physically...Let's see no games versus Boston, New York, New Jersey, Pittsburgh...may as well send the kid down to the OHL, where he'll be safe, because the OHL is a charm school

It was, in purest terms, a hockey trade. Both teams got a much needed asset. JvR is going to be more flashy and certainly score more goals, but a guy like Schenn is generally on the roster of most teams that win Stanley Cups and make deep playoff runs.

Even if JvR develops more quickly, it should be expected. Defensemen usually take longer, and Schenn has some bad habits to break from when he was tossed into the fire as a kid playing 20 minutes for a bad Leafs team
- Jsaquella

Yeah I agree. I think the timing of trading JVR wasn't the best, as his value was the lowest due to all the injuries. Flyers may have gotten 90 cents on the dollar. But I'm ok with the deal.

For the few advocating Rosehill dressing, I would like to hear their take on how the Blackhawks and Red Wings are going to combat the imposing presence of Colton Orr.
- PLindbergh31

By scoring 8 goals and winning the game

The flashy loud poop can get annoying, but it wouldn't bother me if they'd turn the volume down even a notch. Everytime I go, it's oppressively loud. We've got a loud passionate fanbase, the WFC should quit covering it up.

Sorry to steal your thunder here, Bo.
- BulliesPhan87

that's my main issue...all the nonsense around the game - noise, stupid fan games on the board etc. it's unbearable. in the playoffs, i'm generally able to tune it out, but not during the long regular season.

I would like to see an end to staged fights and goons, and I blame the existence of both on the league and the refs. When a guy like Kaleta pokes someone with his stick, he should immediately be hit with an unsportsmanlike conduct call. If he turns and argues the call at all, it should be another minor plus a misconduct. If his mouth is still running at that point, toss him. If the refs called the game like that fighting would drop significantly.

I have no problem with fighting in the heat of battle. If guys like Phaneuf and Simmonds are battling in the corner, and they drop the gloves, fine by me; the staged fight/goon though needs to go.

Yeah I agree. I think the timing of trading JVR wasn't the best, as his value was the lowest due to all the injuries. Flyers may have gotten 90 cents on the dollar. But I'm ok with the deal.
- PLindbergh31

Well, the level of value can be debated, but it's not as if the Flyers gave away JvR for a couple of sticks and a bag of pucks.

It would have been great if the Flyers had been a bit more patient with JvR's development, or maybe found another way to hang onto him, but they got a good player back.

For the few advocating Rosehill dressing, I would like to hear their take on how the Blackhawks and Red Wings are going to combat the imposing presence of Colton Orr.
- PLindbergh31

I know our physical play / goonery is a big factor in our success (if you consider one playoff appearance in 9 years success?) but It's weird to hear Philly fans being anti fighting. I'm not being insensitive to Parros, i really respect him and that was awful. Never want to see that, but it was a freak accident and if you take fighting out of the game, Parros has no job. Im sure he will defend fighting til the day he retires. Still, philly fans are supposed to be blood thirsty.....

For the few advocating Rosehill dressing, I would like to hear their take on how the Blackhawks and Red Wings are going to combat the imposing presence of Colton Orr.
- PLindbergh31

They are just going to take it up the.... Skirt. They will leave it in the capable hands of Shannahan to deal out proper justice, like if your star forward gets his head rammed into the boards like in Rick Flair's WCW days. The Flyers wont.

For those who care, there will be a new goal song tonight! THANK GOD DOOP IS GONE.. I mean I didnt care for it but when you steal it from your local soccer team that is pretty lame.

On the way to the WFC! Hopefully its a wild one.

Maybe we can get a little of this for a goal song...






DALE!!!

I would like to see an end to staged fights and goons, and I blame the existence of both on the league and the refs. When a guy like Kaleta pokes someone with his stick, he should immediately be hit with an unsportsmanlike conduct call. If he turns and argues the call at all, it should be another minor plus a misconduct. If his mouth is still running at that point, toss him. If the refs called the game like that fighting would drop significantly.

I have no problem with fighting in the heat of battle. If guys like Phaneuf and Simmonds are battling in the corner, and they drop the gloves, fine by me; the staged fight/goon though needs to go.
- BiggE

Perfectly stated

I would like to see an end to staged fights and goons, and I blame the existence of both on the league and the refs. When a guy like Kaleta pokes someone with his stick, he should immediately be hit with an unsportsmanlike conduct call. If he turns and argues the call at all, it should be another minor plus a misconduct. If his mouth is still running at that point, toss him. If the refs called the game like that fighting would drop significantly.

I have no problem with fighting in the heat of battle. If guys like Phaneuf and Simmonds are battling in the corner, and they drop the gloves, fine by me; the staged fight/goon though needs to go.
- BiggE

neither orr vs parros fight from last night was staged. Both were from battles. I thought they were going to have a staged fight first shift when they lined up, but they didn't...

I know our physical play / goonery is a big factor in our success (if you consider one playoff appearance in 9 years success?) but It's weird to hear Philly fans being anti fighting. I'm not being insensitive to Parros, i really respect him and that was awful. Never want to see that, but it was a freak accident and if you take fighting out of the game, Parros has no job. Im sure he will defend fighting til the day he retires. Still, philly fans are supposed to be blood thirsty.....
- clark_griswold

None of us are anti-fighting. I love a good fight.

What I hate is two guys who can't do anything in hockey at a NHL level, besides fight, lineup on a face-off and immediately drop the gloves.

I know our physical play / goonery is a big factor in our success (if you consider one playoff appearance in 9 years success?) but It's weird to hear Philly fans being anti fighting. I'm not being insensitive to Parros, i really respect him and that was awful. Never want to see that, but it was a freak accident and if you take fighting out of the game, Parros has no job. Im sure he will defend fighting til the day he retires. Still, philly fans are supposed to be blood thirsty.....
- clark_griswold

Majority of fans here have no issue with fighting. It's the staged crap that we want eliminated. If I want to watch a couple of caveman beat each other over the head with clubs I will tune into the UFC.

When a hockey fight occurs due to emotions of the game between two players who can do more than throw hands, I love it. Most fans do.

Yeah. Let's look at the schedule and hide him from every team that plays physically...Let's see no games versus Boston, New York, New Jersey, Pittsburgh...may as well send the kid down to the OHL, where he'll be safe, because the OHL is a charm school
- Jsaquella

Your MJLing that statement, and I think you know it. Besides, I thought you said a moment ago Boston, and Jersey dont have goons... I dont think pittsburgh or NYR do anymore either. so yea.... Quit MJLing.

They are just going to take it up the.... Skirt. They will leave it in the capable hands of Shannahan to deal out proper justice, like if your star forward gets his head rammed into the boards like in Rick Flair's WCW days. The Flyers wont.
- youarewrong

Yeah, they will win the game, bank the two points, and keep churning out Cups. That's my definition of taking it up the skirt.

They are just going to take it up the.... Skirt. They will leave it in the capable hands of Shannahan to deal out proper justice, like if your star forward gets his head rammed into the boards like in Rick Flair's WCW days. The Flyers wont.
- youarewrong

The only skirt in Chicago was the skirting on the table that held the Stanley Cup during last night's banner raising. I guess if the "Hawks had a goon or two they could have won two Stanley Cups last year.

Oh, and FWIW, when Torres hit Hossa, the Blackhawks had John Scott on the roster. Having that 6'8" 270 lb goon really helped them, didn't it?

I would like to see an end to staged fights and goons, and I blame the existence of both on the league and the refs. When a guy like Kaleta pokes someone with his stick, he should immediately be hit with an unsportsmanlike conduct call. If he turns and argues the call at all, it should be another minor plus a misconduct. If his mouth is still running at that point, toss him. If the refs called the game like that fighting would drop significantly.

I have no problem with fighting in the heat of battle. If guys like Phaneuf and Simmonds are battling in the corner, and they drop the gloves, fine by me; the staged fight/goon though needs to go.
- BiggE

No, what needs to happen to get rid of the staged fighting is taking out the instigation rule. Let players defend themselves on the spot, without having to worry about an extra 2 minutes on top of the fighting major. That would also likely reduce the number of goons too, and players would be able to ref themselves.

Your MJLing that statement, and I think you know it. Besides, I thought you said a moment ago Boston, and Jersey dont have goons... I dont think pittsburgh or NYR do anymore either. so yea.... Quit MJLing.
- youarewrong

and I'm not taking sides but

Or, you do what Carcillo did in 2010. You laugh at Orr and skate away while he gets two minutes for roughing, and then score on the ensuing power play.

Because the purpose of the game is to score enough goals to win, not to fight.

Go look at Colton Orr's fightcard on Hockeyfights.com... He has not fought a guy like Hartnell, Simmonds or Clarkson in the last two years. It's all names like Scott, Parros, Thorburn & Rosehill.
- Jsaquella

Jsaq, we've had this discussion on another thread. You see it one way, and I see it another. I'm open to the argument on both sides. You don't seem to be open to the counter argument. But there's enough NHL teams and GM's who still feel the need for an enforcer. Are they wrong to feel that way? Are they smart enough Hockey people to know if one is needed?
The recent pre season game between Buffalo and Toronto, shows what can happen. The needed Orr then. Did Clarkson not realize that he should have turned the other cheek and just taken the PP? He came off the bench, when he was fully aware of the automatic 10 game suspension for a reason. To defend his teammates.

Well, the level of value can be debated, but it's not as if the Flyers gave away JvR for a couple of sticks and a bag of pucks.

It would have been great if the Flyers had been a bit more patient with JvR's development, or maybe found another way to hang onto him, but they got a good player back.
- Jsaquella

patience. jvr. bob. hell...maybe even frick and or frack.