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mcefalu
Location: I never back-read, IL
Joined: 07.11.2008

Oct 2 @ 12:24 PM ET
Isn't Gus the 7th dman? Wouldn't he step in if there is an injury?
- PLindbergh31


I think that depends on which defenseman gets injured. If Grossmann goes down, Gill might be more likely to fill in than Gus
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 2 @ 12:24 PM ET
Gustafsson earned his spot due to his play in the past, and his future potential based on that, and you know what you're getting in Gill.
- MJL

I guess. Neither did anything I'd call "earning" the spot this preseason that I saw, though. In a not-so-incendiary way, that feels like getting the spot "by default" to me.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 2 @ 12:24 PM ET
Actually, he's the perfect Penguin goalie.

Last 2 years regular season:
11/12 - 92.0 SV%, 2.49 GAA
12/13 - 92.0 SV%, 1.93 GAA

Last 2 years regular playoffs:
11/12 - 86.5 SV%, 4.34 GAA
12/13 - 83.8 SV%, 5.45 GAA

- jmatchett383

Seems like he could step right in.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 2 @ 12:25 PM ET
Did I miss something? I don't remember Rosehill playing bad last season. Its not like throwing Shelly or Fedoruk out there. I think Rosehill-Hall-Rinaldo can be a very effective energy line.
- youarewrong



You forgot this?

BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 2 @ 12:25 PM ET
So you're saying he could be the starting SS for the Phillies?
- jmatchett383

With a little less hustle in his game, it's possible.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 2 @ 12:26 PM ET
I guess. Neither did anything I'd call "earning" the spot this preseason that I saw, though. In a not-so-incendiary way, that feels like getting the spot "by default" to me.
- BulliesPhan87

I think he was disappointing enough in what I saw of the preseason that they would have waived him and assigned him to the AHL if they thought he'd pass through. He has enough value that I doubt he'd make it through and the Flyers value him too much to risk it.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 2 @ 12:27 PM ET
Did I miss something? I don't remember Rosehill playing bad last season. Its not like throwing Shelly or Fedoruk out there. I think Rosehill-Hall-Rinaldo can be a very effective energy line.
- youarewrong

I mostly agree, but that's a strictly 'five minutes or less' 4th line. Inoffensive, but not reliable for much except catching the other lines a breather.
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Oct 2 @ 12:28 PM ET
That's Marv Albert
- Tomahawk


Yeah, I think I grabbed the wrong link there. Will have to go back an edit that. Sheesh...
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 2 @ 12:28 PM ET
I think he was disappointing enough in what I saw of the preseason that they would have waived him and assigned him to the AHL if they thought he'd pass through. He has enough value that I doubt he'd make it through and the Flyers value him too much to risk it.
- mayorofangrytown


They almost certainly would have lost him in waivers. Gus played really well down the stretch last year and in the Worlds, they weren't going to give up on him because of a couple shaky preseason games.
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Oct 2 @ 12:28 PM ET
I think if Schenn continues to be invisible on the ice, I quickly switch him and Read positions, I can see Read doing really well With Vinny and Simmer. on 2nd line. This to me is Schenns make or break season.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 2 @ 12:29 PM ET
I guess. Neither did anything I'd call "earning" the spot this preseason that I saw, though. In a not-so-incendiary way, that feels like getting the spot "by default" to me.
- BulliesPhan87



If they were handing out spots only to guys who "earned" them in preseason, I'd say this team would be short a few dozen players.

With that said, I don't mind Gill -- the one that still irks me is Streit, especially in light of Liles, a better player, on waivers for free (with a less-risky contract, no less), and guys like Whitney and Gilbert signing for $900k.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 2 @ 12:31 PM ET
I think that depends on which defenseman gets injured. If Grossmann goes down, Gill might be more likely to fill in than Gus
- mcefalu


So there has to be tiers now to the Flyers 7th, 8th, 9th dmen?

My gosh, if anyone goes down Gus would be first up. Quite frankly if Meszaros keeps looking like a shell of himself I would expect Gus will be in there in short order.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 2 @ 12:31 PM ET
If they were handing out spots only to guys who "earned" them in preseason, I'd say this team would be short a few dozen players.

With that said, I don't mind Gill -- the one that still irks me is Streit, especially in light of Liles, a better player, on waivers for free (with a less-risky contract, no less), and guys like Whitney and Gilbert signing for $900k.

- Tomahawk

He's still available.

Just call us.

Oh, please, just call us.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 2 @ 12:31 PM ET
They almost certainly would have lost him in waivers. Gus played really well down the stretch last year and in the Worlds, they weren't going to give up on him because of a couple shaky preseason games.
- BiggE

Completely agree. I can't imagine they want him as the 7th defenseman though. If they could send him down without waivers I think that's where they'd prefer him right now.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Oct 2 @ 12:31 PM ET
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LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!



LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!

- ggunky


johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 2 @ 12:31 PM ET
Gervais is capable of being that guy. Does it kill the Flyers signing Gill? Not really, but there is zero need for him.
- PLindbergh31


You're right and I dunno the reason for preferring Gill over Gervais for that role.

They like Gill's leadership? Maybe he can house wayward young players, like Danny B? I dunno.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Oct 2 @ 12:32 PM ET
Yes, but not exactly a poster child for the type of "non-meathead" player you're talking about. Shore was a certifiable nut case.

From his wiki page:

"During their first practice with the Bruins, Shore strutted back and forth in front of Coutu and Cleghorn. Coutu body-slammed Shore, head-butted, elbowed, and tried to torment Shore. Coutu picked up the puck and made a rush at Shore. The two players collided. Shore held his ground and Coutu flew through the air violently crashing to the ice. Shore's ear was almost ripped off but he barely noticed it. Coutu was out cold and was out of commission for a week. Shore visited several doctors who wanted to amputate the ear, but found one who sewed it back on. After refusing anesthetic, Shore used a mirror to watch the doctor sew the ear on."

- BringBack25


He was certifiable, but he was also good at hockey.

The big guy who can't play hockey didn't really come around until the 90's, as skilled players were getting bigger and stronger. Not-so-smart teams would counter with bears on skates.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 2 @ 12:32 PM ET
He's still available.

Just call us.

Oh, please, just call us.

- Atomic Wedgie



Streit for Liles, straight up?
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Oct 2 @ 12:32 PM ET
So there has to be tiers now to the Flyers 7th, 8th, 9th dmen?

My gosh, if anyone goes down Gus would be first up. Quite frankly if Meszaros keeps looking like a shell of himself I would expect Gus will be in there in short order.

- PLindbergh31


Chelios would be nice in the 10th spot
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 2 @ 12:33 PM ET
Completely agree. I can't imagine they want him as the 7th defenseman though. If they could send him down without waivers I think that's where they'd prefer him right now.
- mayorofangrytown


Probably true, but if Mez struggles, Gus could be back in the lineup by game 2 or 3.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 2 @ 12:34 PM ET
He was certifiable, but he was also good at hockey.

The big guy who can't play hockey didn't really come around until the 90's, as skilled players were getting bigger and stronger. Not-so-smart teams would counter with bears on skates.

- bradleyc4


Shore was a maniac, but he was also one of the best players of his era and one of the best defenseman of all time.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 2 @ 12:34 PM ET
Chelios would be nice in the 10th spot
- funmaster18




I mean why not sign Ray Bourque as the 13th dman.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Oct 2 @ 12:34 PM ET
Probably true, but if Mez struggles, Gus could be back in the lineup by game 2 or 3.
- BiggE


I hope Mez gets back to his form after a few games. It would be nice if he can make homer's decision tough, plus it increased his value if they trade him anyway
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 2 @ 12:34 PM ET
He was certifiable, but he was also good at hockey.

The big guy who can't play hockey didn't really come around until the 90's, as skilled players were getting bigger and stronger. Not-so-smart teams would counter with bears on skates.

- bradleyc4


Definitely, I'd say the league wide proliferation of the big guy who can't play was in the '90's.

But if you can tell me what Dave Semenko did well when he played hockey in the '80's (other than protect Wayne Gretzky), I'll hang up and listen.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 2 @ 12:35 PM ET
Gervais is capable of being that guy. Does it kill the Flyers signing Gill? Not really, but there is zero need for him.
- PLindbergh31



They probably want an option of a defenseman who is bigger and more physical then Gervais is. If you think about the future just a little bit, it'll give some insight into why they signed Gill.
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