he was on pace for 88 last year if it were a full season

so yeah.. at the age of 23 and 24 he was scoring at an 80P pace

try again.
- Dozzer

Being on pace doesn't mean jack... Vanek was on pace for like 100+ points at one point last season too. He had 23 points in his first 7 games or something like that. Then injuries and dry streaks happen. I don't even like Vanek and I know that "crutch" isn't usable.

not the wealthy teams
- Dozzer

Pegula is worth more money than the Leafs franchise as whole. Can't pull that card any more ol Sport!

you serious, Clark??

I would take EVERY SINGLE one of those guys over Kessel every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
- JVince11

of course you would.. its the stigma with being a leaf

if Giroux and Kessel traded places you would be saying the same damn thing about Giroux.

James Mirtle ‏@mirtle 5m
Only Stamkos, Malkin and Giroux have more points than Kessel the last two years

James Mirtle ‏@mirtle 1m
Since trade, only six players have more goals than Kessel: Stamkos, Ovechkin, Perry, Marleau, Iginla, Kovalchuk


that is worth 8m.
/argument

Pegula is worth more money than the Leafs franchise as whole. Can't pull that card any more ol Sport!
- JVince11

Pegula is worth more money than the Leafs franchise as whole. Can't pull that card any more ol Sport!
- JVince11

Pegula is sure.. but he's pretty (frank)ing small time compared to Rogers/Bell

the teams themselves.. yeah.. the sabres are nowhere near the leafs when it comes to revenue generated.

Being on pace doesn't mean jack... Vanek was on pace for like 100+ points at one point last season too. He had 23 points in his first 7 games or something like that. Then injuries and dry streaks happen. I don't even like Vanek and I know that "crutch" isn't usable.
- JVince11

He was on pace for the entirety of the season not a segment you like to pull out to a small sample size.

i live in to... drive back to NS 3times a year.
it depends on your babies schedule and your ability to stay awake. i leave to at 7-8pm at night... kids are asleep by 9-10... and don't wake up until 7-8am... at that point i am in edmunston NB... pull over at the mcdonalds for them to have breakfast...
- Rockhead_37

Yeah we drove here. I think i can get to edmunston ish before she goes nuts. Getting through n.b. seems to take forever. I think we will end up staying in edmunston or riviere de loop?. Its quite a drive eh? Seemed a good idea at the time

No.. he is a 6-7M range guy.... he just has the Leafs by the balls.
- JVince11

Sabres would give him 9mill as a UFA and suck his nut after every game.....

You are delusional if you think you can sign a 25yr old top 10 scoring NHL hockey player for $6 to $7 mill per season......

Don't live in Buffalo either.... I love how you have totally avoided the whole conversation that is taking place to try to attack the city where I live...

Dip, Duck, Dive, Dodge, Duck!!
- JVince11

What's the point of entering the conversation?

You Buffalo fans are still rabid after Kessel slashed your star player.

James Mirtle ‏@mirtle 5m
Only Stamkos, Malkin and Giroux have more points than Kessel the last two years

James Mirtle ‏@mirtle 1m
Since trade, only six players have more goals than Kessel: Stamkos, Ovechkin, Perry, Marleau, Iginla, Kovalchuk


that is worth 8m.
/argument
- IrishRage

and St. Louis.

Solid point...

Being top ten in scoring for 1 year and a lock out shortened season should mean a huge contract...

Where is Jonathon Cheechoo... he scored 51 goals in a season.. he deserves a 10M AAV contract for that.
- JVince11

Phil Kessel has been top ten for two years running now .. sport

you are really starting to annoy me

Pegula is sure.. but he's pretty (frank)ing small time compared to Rogers/Bell

the teams themselves.. yeah.. the sabres are nowhere near the leafs when it comes to revenue generated.
- Dozzer

Bill Gates is worth more than buffalo I'm not really sure what the arguement is here.

and St. Louis.
- JVince11

no he does.. kessel has 136 in the last two years.. st louis has 134

Solid point...

Being top ten in scoring for 1 year and a lock out shortened season should mean a huge contract...

Where is Jonathon Cheechoo... he scored 51 goals in a season.. he deserves a 10M AAV contract for that.
- JVince11

enjoy being banned for the first week of the season goofball

Yeah we drove here. I think i can get to edmunston ish before she goes nuts. Getting through n.b. seems to take forever. I think we will end up staying in edmunston or riviere de loop?. Its quite a drive eh? Seemed a good idea at the time
- walshyleafsfan

it gets easier.... when i started doing it 18yrs ago... it was 1 lane highways...
now you have the bypass in MTL, and almost everything is divided in NB now... it's pretty easy... by the time they wake up... you are almost there... at that point they start to come over to your side of just wanting to get there.

Strategy!!

Phil Kessel has been top ten for two years running now .. sport

you are really starting to annoy me
- Dozzer

just hit him with the Ban Hammer

James Mirtle ‏@mirtle 5m
Only Stamkos, Malkin and Giroux have more points than Kessel the last two years

James Mirtle ‏@mirtle 1m
Since trade, only six players have more goals than Kessel: Stamkos, Ovechkin, Perry, Marleau, Iginla, Kovalchuk


that is worth 8m.
/argument
- IrishRage

He'll still keep going.

Clueless

no he does.. kessel has 136 in the last two years.. st louis has 134
- Dozzer

Kessel 82 + 52

Pegula is worth more money than the Leafs franchise as whole. Can't pull that card any more ol Sport!
- JVince11

No he's not.

Kessel 82 + 52
- JVince11

you're right.. thought he had 54 last year, my mistake.. so they're tied then

Thats fine if we look at it like that...

Do you honestly think that Kessell is only 700k less of a player than Malkin and Crosby?

Do you think that he is the same type of player that Perry, Staal, Giroux, and Getzlaf are making that kind of money?

is he really worth more than Shea Weber, Zach Parise, Ryan Suter, Steven Stamkos, or even Jason Spezza?
- JVince11

Are any of them available?

I will take Crosby and Stamkos please and a side order of Weber

no he does.. kessel has 136 in the last two years.. st louis has 134
- Dozzer

Sorry dude couldn't take it anymore

see.. i dont think clarksons contract is even bad

exactly the type of player the leafs needed.. crash bang and open up space.. and again.. do you really think his cap hit will look bad in say 4 years?

no.. it wont

if he pots 18-20 goals and notches 30 assists while keeping opposition off of kadri's back that dollar amount is perfect.
- Dozzer

Thing is, he came close to a 50 points season only once in his career when he scored twice his average of goals in 2011 ending with 30.

I'm not saying it's impossible, or that he won't be useful to his team, he's a good player to have.

I'm just the kind of guy who would rather spend big money on star players (Subban, Kessel, etc...) than on role players like Clarkson, Clowe, Leino etc...

Thing is, he came close to a 50 points season only once in his career when he scored twice his average of goals in 2011 ending with 30.

I'm not saying it's impossible, or that he won't be useful to his team, he's a good player to have.

I'm just the kind of guy who would rather spend big money on star players (Subban, Kessel, etc...) than on role players like Clarkson, Clowe, Leino etc...
- Scabeh

now.. to be fair.. do you not think there will be more offensive opportunities for him in toronto?

NJ runs a pretty tightly wound system