Well, I assume Conacher will start on the 2nd line now. He looked pretty good in preseason(doesn't say much I know). And played with MacCarther for some points I think.
- david22

Yeah I agree with you, that is why Zbad is sent down, I was talking more for the upcoming years. Conacher is currently a great fit, but if Zbad can get some good experience as a winger, it surely will not hurt the organization to have more depth along the wings... Sens are currently stacked down the middle.

Gardiner for Zibanejad ?

I don't see this being fully about Money.
I see it more that he was the cut and instead of sending him to the box, he is going to the BSens (maybe since expected to be more then couple games).

Keeping Da Costa up he is making 825 vs the 925 Zbad would be making.
Likely DaCosta is being showcased and will be moved pretty quick. So keeping Zbad in the box while others are on the ice doesn't change much vs him being down in the BSesn. So yes they save money sending him down, but not really to the detriment of the team (I am assuming/implying that he would be the cut regardless).

Now he has bonuses that could take him up to 1.7 but given his likely return does that really impact likeliness of receiving that? (not sure what bonus details are).

Am I way off on something?
- pomattic

Zibanejad was 4th on the team in points last year. He is an NHL player.

Would they move Zib in a deal right now ?
- blizzzard

No... unless we get someone of similar talent with similar potential that currently plays wing, then maybe.

While this could be about money, I see that comment about being over budget another as a shot at Watson about this casino ordeal.

Secondly, maybe they have a trade in the works for Da Costa that will involve a roster player(s).

Thirdly, have they actually came out and said they have returned Lazar to JR? I mean he could play 9 games without burning a year right, seems crazy for a 17th pick who barely played, but it's not ruled out yet, is it?

Zibanejad was 4th on the team in points last year. He is an NHL player.
- jimbro83

Yeah he is...im assuming this is a mix of money and message sending for him to work harder

Gardiner for Zibanejad ?
- senstroll

Ha! Good one. Gardiner is good but i don't think he has the same potential as Zbad.

Gardiner for Zibanejad ?
- senstroll

Fair but we are good at pmd

Gardiner for Zibanejad ?
- senstroll

Kadri and Zibanejad would be a good 1-2 punch to be honest.

But the Sens have two good puck moving defenceman, already.

Michalek -Spezza - Ryan
McCathur -Turris - Conacher
Condra - Smith - Neil
Greening -Pageau - Stone

Kassian - De Costa

Z-bad was simply outplayed at camp, both Da Costa and Pageau were better then him...

The team is likely keeping Da Costa as he would need to be exposed to waivers and don't want to lose him for nothing and may be working on a trade to do so...

mean while Z-Bad can get some ice time in Bingo as to not lose his timing sitting in the press box

Maybe its for the best Zbad is 20, and SDC or JGP had great camps ,and i dont want him in the pressbox he needs to play.But its so hard not to think about the money issues this team is facing ,when we have an owner stating we are over budget with a 52 million dollar payroll

Ha! Good one. Gardiner is good but i don't think he has the same potential as Zbad.
- PtotheY

stepan for zbad?

It's not surprising considering this is what our cheap ass POS owner said yesterday: we already are over budget, I just found out yesterday." Mika is on a two way deal so putting him in the minors saves the team a bunch of cash.

He SHOULD have played the entire season last year in the AHL, which is what I argued for last year. But now that he played last season in the NHL, and played pretty decently, he should be on the big club. This move reeks of the owner stepping in.

There's no way you can convince me that soft, little Dacosta (who doesn't PK) is a better fit than big, strong Zibby (who does PK) for the 3rd line center role. Seriously, just sell the team already Melnyk. First, Alfie and now this? What a clown.

So putting a player like JGP or SDC there, who have even less experience is a smart move ???

- top shelf 15

MacLean has decided both JGP and SDC have outplayed Zbad, so yes apparently MacLean thinks that's a smart move.

So the options for Zbad - press box or Bingo. Why pay Zbad to sit in the press box when they can call him up whenever they need him. He might as well be playing. Pretty sure MacLean and Murray are good judges of talent and can determine what the smartest move for the team is right now.

stepan for zbad?
- rangerdanger94

Even if that was ever offered we cant we have a budget which is the cap floor

Did I miss somewhere that Ottawa sent Andre Petersson down? I haven't seen that anywhere..

Getting a little tired of this internal budget...

It's not surprising considering this is what our cheap ass POS owner said yesterday: we already are over budget, I just found out yesterday." Mika is on a two way deal so putting him in the minors saves the team a bunch of cash.

He SHOULD have played the entire season last year in the AHL, which is what I argued for last year. But now that he played last season in the NHL, and played pretty decently, he should be on the big club. This move reeks of the owner stepping in.

There's no way you can convince me that soft, little Dacosta (who doesn't PK) is a better fit than big, strong Zibby (who does PK) for the 3rd line center role. Seriously, just sell the team already Melnyk. First, Alfie and now this? What a clown.
- Charliebox

They have to be showcasing him ,because you are right about how much zbad brings to the forecheck

Did I miss somewhere that Ottawa sent Andre Petersson down? I haven't seen that anywhere..

Getting a little tired of this internal budget...
- corbechev

Its the fans fault we dont pay enough for tickets

MacLean has decided both JGP and SDC have outplayed Zbad, so yes apparently MacLean thinks that's a smart move.

So the options for Zbad - press box or Bingo. Why pay Zbad to sit in the press box when they can call him up whenever they need him. He might as well be playing. Pretty sure MacLean and Murray are good judges of talent and can determine what the smartest move for the team is right now.
- SensHero

I think Melnyk made this decision. Murray showed him the roster wanted to keep wtih Zibby on it, Melnyk said no, so Murray cut him.

That's how it went down

This is not about money at all.
At the end of the day other players stepped up and earned a spot and Zbad didnt. As an example we have all seen what Pageau has done since joining the Sens. Immediately after being promoted to the big club he became a difference maker on every shift, he wasn't just a passenger out there taking a sunday skate on every shift trying not to make mistakes. He plays like he belongs, he makes things happen. I don't know if we have ever seen that from Zbad yet. He has not been a difference maker, he hasn't shown dramatic improvement and at the end of day, even though they weren't drafted 8th overall, Da Costa and Pageau are better players for the Sens right now. There is no point playing Zbad on the 3rd and 4th lines. Going down and dominating the AHL might be good for him. When he comes back hopefully he is a top 6 forward. The way he was going he was slotting in on the 3rd line. He is still so young that letting him develop into a top 6 role will be better for him then letting settle on being a 3rd liner.

I dont think this has anything to do about money. This guy shouldnt be sitting in the press box

This is not about money at all.
At the end of the day other players stepped up and earned a spot and Zbad didnt. As an example we have all seen what Pageau has done since joining the Sens. Immediately after been promoted to the big club he became a difference maker on every shift, he wasn't just a passenger out there taking a sunday skate on every shift trying not to make mistakes. He plays like he belongs, he makes things happen. I don't know if we have ever seen that from Zbad yet. He has not been a difference maker, he hasn't shown dramatic improvement and at the end of the even though they weren't drafted 8th overall, Da Costa and Pageau are better players for the Sens right now. There is no point playing Zbad on the 3rd and 4th lines. Going down and dominating the AHL might be good for him. When he comes back hopefully he is a top 6 forward. The way he was going he was slotting in on the 3rd line. He is still so young that letting him develop into a top 6 role will be better for him then letting settle on being a 3rd liner.

I dont think this has anything to do about money. This guy shouldnt be sitting in the press box
- matt272

Fair enough ,but you cant blame any fans for being a little upset .We have an owner that is spending like we are on life support,our best ever player leaving, because of what looks now to be a money issue ,him also calling names and arguing with city council over a casino bid .And just a day after he claims that we are over budget, cuts a player that helped us make the playoffs last season.

So you tell me how does the optics of all that look to you ???

Michalek -Spezza - Ryan
McCathur -Turris - Conacher
Condra - Smith - Neil
Greening -Pageau - Stone

Kassian - De Costa
- tuna99

ehh

Broke A$$ owner ,thats what this reeks of
- top shelf 15

What this reeks of to me is that he was the 5th or 6th best centre on the team in training camp, and they weren't going to demote Smith because of waivers.

Does anyone seriously think they would demote a player who makes the team better just to save a buck? Come on people, I get that Ottawa is a team on a budget, but there's no way they would actually do that. He got outplayed in camp, he doesn't need to clear waivers to go down, so if you want to play numbers, those are the ones you should be looking at, not the ones on his paycheque.