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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Sep 30 @ 12:16 PM ET
Yes Andy did leave him with a stable of studs to work with. Meanwhile Reid's script is familiar taking over a team with a lock down defense in place while he bumbles through his gameday plan.
- Just5




Reid is playing a rack of ribs like a harmonica. He's the pied piper in KC.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Sep 30 @ 12:18 PM ET


Reid is playing a rack of ribs like a harmonica. He's the pied piper in KC.

- PLindbergh31


Thanks for the breakdown
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Sep 30 @ 12:19 PM ET
Very possible. How bout Big Red Andy Reid having last years 2-14 Chiefs 4-0, meanwhile the Chipster looks like a Super Clown.
- PLindbergh31

Red left his big dump here and went to a poorly coached team w/ 5 pro bowlers
justahockeyguy2
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 06.05.2013

Sep 30 @ 12:21 PM ET
I sure hope so, but its looking more and more like it isnt going to be the goaltenders fault this season, its the defense. Emery was a stud for Chicago and he just like every goalie in Philadelphia is getting lit up. Coincidence??? I think not
- GOA88



Well the real mistake was bringing in so many players for training camp so the core players didn't have the time to really get their chemistry back. I thought that was clear in the way they played during the preseason. It may be a slow start this year because of that, but I think they will get back on the same page.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Sep 30 @ 12:25 PM ET
I hope a deal gets done soon, though I'm not sure why you would trade Hall. Just doesnt make sence for me. Good PK, good at faceoffs, but can play wing. Something Fishy is going on, and I dont think its Meszaros, Grossmann, or Hall.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Sep 30 @ 12:28 PM ET
I hope a deal gets done soon, though I'm not sure why you would trade Hall. Just doesnt make sence for me. Good PK, good at faceoffs, but can play wing. Something Fishy is going on, and I dont think its Meszaros, Grossmann, or Hall.
- youarewrong

Professional Hockey People have decided that rosebud is essential, so deal with it
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Sep 30 @ 12:31 PM ET
Red left his big dump here and went to a poorly coached team w/ 5 pro bowlers
- isaiah520


This times 2.

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Sep 30 @ 12:37 PM ET
Eagles are definitely not making the playoffs, that defense is horrible.
- GOA88


Playoffs???
Playoffs?!?!?!

Cue Jim Mora...
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Sep 30 @ 12:47 PM ET
Someone asked this the other day, and I thought about it. I was extremely bullish on this team after draft day, for what they would accomplish this season.

I've been a little...horrified...by how they've performed in the preseason. I would be lying if I said I wasn't nervous that this thing couldn't get sideways, in a hurry.

But here are five things that I am happy about heading into this season, and I hope like hell that it's enough:

1. Our special teams are elite. It's OK. We can say that without reservation. The PP and PK have been good for a few years now, and I don't care what anybody says, if your SECOND PP unit is Schenn-Lecavalier-Read-Meszaros-Streit (and the Flyers' is exactly that), then that aspect of the team is good to go.

2. The goaltending on the ice, not the goaltender off it, will be the focus of that position. Maybe that won't mean anything against Steven Stamkos on a breakaway. But I'm one of those people who believes team camaraderie means something.

3. Scott Hartnell looks like he's in really good shape, and Jakub Voracek looked faster (and his shot a little harder) before he was banged up. Add the fact that Claude Giroux looked like himself and was able to practice and play in two preseason games, and the Flyers have an honest-to-goodness No. 1 line.

4. Sean Couturier and Matt Read look like they are truly ready to do good things. Read's contract status is now a non-issue, and Couturier is simply maturing physically. Those are both good things.

5. Personally, I thought Mark Streit looks mobile and fluid, with a high skill level in moving the puck. Since I am aware of his limitations defensively, I was totally fine with how he looked in the preseason and I honestly believe a Streit-Luke Schenn pairing is going to be good for the Flyers.

Sooooo...not all is lost after a truly awful preseason. They still have the opportunity to get this thing off on the right foot on Wednesday, and I'm hoping they'll do just that.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 30 @ 12:48 PM ET
Eagles are definitely not making the playoffs, that defense is horrible.
- GOA88


It is, and that's the sad part; they actually have a chance for a home playoff game. Whichever team has the best division record probably takes it. So far, it's a toss-up between the Eagles and Cowboys.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 30 @ 12:49 PM ET
Douglas Murray is out for 4-6 weeks with a UBI...Flyers better lock up Hal Gill before the Habs snatch him up
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Sep 30 @ 12:50 PM ET
People who are quick to criticize Mez this pre season have to remember that he has really not played much in the past 2 years because of injuries. He will take awhile to really get back into game shape and timing etc...but I think the biggest hurdle he has to overcome now is mentally. He probably deep down thinks every shift he takes could be his next one he gets injured...takes awhile and some games to get the confidence back in that area...
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Sep 30 @ 12:54 PM ET
Someone asked this the other day, and I thought about it. I was extremely bullish on this team after draft day, for what they would accomplish this season.

I've been a little...horrified...by how they've performed in the preseason. I would be lying if I said I wasn't nervous that this thing couldn't get sideways, in a hurry.

But here are five things that I am happy about heading into this season, and I hope like hell that it's enough:

1. Our special teams are elite. It's OK. We can say that without reservation. The PP and PK have been good for a few years now, and I don't care what anybody says, if your SECOND PP unit is Schenn-Lecavalier-Read-Meszaros-Streit (and the Flyers' is exactly that), then that aspect of the team is good to go.

2. The goaltending on the ice, not the goaltender off it, will be the focus of that position. Maybe that won't mean anything against Steven Stamkos on a breakaway. But I'm one of those people who believes team camaraderie means something.

3. Scott Hartnell looks like he's in really good shape, and Jakub Voracek looked faster (and his shot a little harder) before he was banged up. Add the fact that Claude Giroux looked like himself and was able to practice and play in two preseason games, and the Flyers have an honest-to-goodness No. 1 line.

4. Sean Couturier and Matt Read look like they are truly ready to do good things. Read's contract status is now a non-issue, and Couturier is simply maturing physically. Those are both good things.

5. Personally, I thought Mark Streit looks mobile and fluid, with a high skill level in moving the puck. Since I am aware of his limitations defensively, I was totally fine with how he looked in the preseason and I honestly believe a Streit-Luke Schenn pairing is going to be good for the Flyers.

Sooooo...not all is lost after a truly awful preseason. They still have the opportunity to get this thing off on the right foot on Wednesday, and I'm hoping they'll do just that.

- AllInForFlyers

i agree w/ many of these points, but it would not surprise me if, based on need, we see vinny w/ G and Jake; harts w/ couts and read/simmer and schenn centering a "3rd line" with whomever...esp if we are struggling to score 5 on 5.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Sep 30 @ 12:54 PM ET
Professional Hockey People have decided that rosebud is essential, so deal with it
- isaiah520


Your joking right? He will still be the 13th forward though right?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 30 @ 12:54 PM ET
3. Scott Hartnell looks like he's in really good shape, and Jakub Voracek looked faster (and his shot a little harder) before he was banged up. Add the fact that Claude Giroux looked like himself and was able to practice and play in two preseason games, and the Flyers have an honest-to-goodness No. 1 line.
- AllInForFlyers


You sure about that?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 30 @ 12:55 PM ET
People who are quick to criticize Mez this pre season have to remember that he has really not played much in the past 2 years because of injuries. He will take awhile to really get back into game shape and timing etc...but I think the biggest hurdle he has to overcome now is mentally. He probably deep down thinks every shift he takes could be his next one he gets injured...takes awhile and some games to get the confidence back in that area...
- Buzzo


Sounds like a great goal to set out to accomplish during the hour and a half of practice every day.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 30 @ 12:56 PM ET
Your joking right? He will still be the 13th forward though right?
- youarewrong


First line winger getting 35 minutes a night. Will probably supplant G as captain by the Florida game.
missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Sep 30 @ 12:56 PM ET


1. Our special teams are elite. It's OK. We can say that without reservation. The PP and PK have been good for a few years now, and I don't care what anybody says, if your SECOND PP unit is Schenn-Lecavalier-Read-Meszaros-Streit (and the Flyers' is exactly that), then that aspect of the team is good to go.


- AllInForFlyers


And that the testament to poor 5 vs. 5 system/ coaching not the skaters.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Sep 30 @ 12:59 PM ET
You sure about that?
- jmatchett383


Yeah -- I watched Scott Hartnell pretty closely after Giroux got back into the lineup, and he was moving around really well (for him). When his (inevitable) regression starts, his skating will be the first thing to go, but he looks like he's still able to get to his spots on the ice, keep up with players like Giroux and Voracek, and is still willing to go to the nastier areas of the ice (which is usually the second thing to go for hard-nosed forwards).
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Sep 30 @ 1:00 PM ET
Your joking right? He will still be the 13th forward though right?
- youarewrong

how could i not be joking
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Sep 30 @ 1:00 PM ET
i feel like today is going to bum me out
- -davies-


I've proactively bummed myself out already to prepare for the announcement that they've traded Mez and Hall for the second coming of the "Dan Line".
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Sep 30 @ 1:02 PM ET
And that the testament to poor 5 vs. 5 system/ coaching not the skaters.
- missingmike


Yeah...I wish I could've said something positive about the 5v5 and coaching during the preseason, but, well...the games were broadcast. We all saw what was going down there.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 30 @ 1:02 PM ET
I've proactively bummed myself out already to prepare for the announcement that they've traded Mez and Hall for the second coming of the "Dan Line".

- BringBack25


Well, Kordic did start out as a defenseman...
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Sep 30 @ 1:06 PM ET
i agree w/ many of these points, but it would not surprise me if, based on need, we see vinny w/ G and Jake; harts w/ couts and read/simmer and schenn centering a "3rd line" with whomever...esp if we are struggling to score 5 on 5.
- isaiah520


And that would be totally justified -- bottom line, Brayden Schenn's gotta look like a Top 6 forward, pretty much, like, NOW. Because this thing doesn't work 5v5 without production from the second line.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Sep 30 @ 1:06 PM ET
Someone asked this the other day, and I thought about it. I was extremely bullish on this team after draft day, for what they would accomplish this season.

I've been a little...horrified...by how they've performed in the preseason. I would be lying if I said I wasn't nervous that this thing couldn't get sideways, in a hurry.

But here are five things that I am happy about heading into this season, and I hope like hell that it's enough:

1. Our special teams are elite. It's OK. We can say that without reservation. The PP and PK have been good for a few years now, and I don't care what anybody says, if your SECOND PP unit is Schenn-Lecavalier-Read-Meszaros-Streit (and the Flyers' is exactly that), then that aspect of the team is good to go.

2. The goaltending on the ice, not the goaltender off it, will be the focus of that position. Maybe that won't mean anything against Steven Stamkos on a breakaway. But I'm one of those people who believes team camaraderie means something.

3. Scott Hartnell looks like he's in really good shape, and Jakub Voracek looked faster (and his shot a little harder) before he was banged up. Add the fact that Claude Giroux looked like himself and was able to practice and play in two preseason games, and the Flyers have an honest-to-goodness No. 1 line.

4. Sean Couturier and Matt Read look like they are truly ready to do good things. Read's contract status is now a non-issue, and Couturier is simply maturing physically. Those are both good things.

5. Personally, I thought Mark Streit looks mobile and fluid, with a high skill level in moving the puck. Since I am aware of his limitations defensively, I was totally fine with how he looked in the preseason and I honestly believe a Streit-Luke Schenn pairing is going to be good for the Flyers.

Sooooo...not all is lost after a truly awful preseason. They still have the opportunity to get this thing off on the right foot on Wednesday, and I'm hoping they'll do just that.

- AllInForFlyers



The thing i most look forward to this season is lavy getting fired and murray coming in and building the foundation that will make this team a cup contender in two years.
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