AGAIN???

Please do elaborate where outside of the selections of Eberle (which was not his pick) he appears a genius to date... and not the selections where a monkey could pick either... (ie 1st overalls)...
- saskoil21

Martin Gernat (5th), Dillon Simpson (4th), Martin Marincin (2nd), Juhjar Khaira (3rd), and Brandon Davidson (6th). This last draft also had some great looking selections, but there hasn't been enough time to evaluate those guys yet. Also, at one point, Tyler Bunz made him look pretty smart (only to disappoint the next year).

Martin Gernat (5th), Dillon Simpson (4th), Martin Marincin (2nd), Juhjar Khaira (3rd), and Brandon Davidson (6th). This last draft also had some great looking selections, but there hasn't been enough time to evaluate those guys yet. Also, at one point, Tyler Bunz made him look pretty smart (only to disappoint the next year).
- MaximumBone

And I still see 0 for NHL games... so where does he appear to look like a genius to date??? Out of that entire bunch maybe Khaira gets a lick...

I remember when many were all "Lolz! Skinner iz way betturrr Hall sux!!"

Yeah don't hear much from them anymore. Well actually you do but they just don't mention that they held that opinion once. Fans convictions are about as solid as jello.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

It started with "All your young guys such!", then became "Eberle's good, but Hall sucks and RNH is injury prone!", then it was "Hall and Eberle are good, but RNH is injury prone and Yakupov is going back to Russia!", and now it's at "Hall, Eberle, and Yakupov are good, but RNH is Tim Connolly 2.0!". The truth is, they don't know what they're talking about.

Not a genius but hardly a failure. I would say he's been solid.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

Not a genius, and not a magnificent bastard... Good, but not anything that most of the fans on these boards could have easily replicated. The Eberle pick was the only one that was great considering draft position, and most teams manage to pull a lucky one out of their asses from time to time anyway.

Not a genius, and not a magnificent bastard... Good, but not anything that most of the fans on these boards could have easily replicated. The Eberle pick was the only one that was great considering draft position, and most teams manage to pull a lucky one out of their asses from time to time anyway.
- laughs2907

People need to try and remember that 1st overalls may step directly into the NHL but lower picks generally take time. You can't rationally brand Stu as a drafting failure nor genius yet.

Martin Gernat (5th), Dillon Simpson (4th), Martin Marincin (2nd), Juhjar Khaira (3rd), and Brandon Davidson (6th). This last draft also had some great looking selections, but there hasn't been enough time to evaluate those guys yet. Also, at one point, Tyler Bunz made him look pretty smart (only to disappoint the next year).
- MaximumBone

None of those guys have done anything yet.

I like him too, but there's no way we should have taken him instead of RNH.
- laughs2907

Yet we are in dire need of a Landeskog 'type' player moreso that a RNH 'type' if we had fwds with size this discussion is moot... however...

Not a genius, and not a magnificent bastard... Good, but not anything that most of the fans on these boards could have easily replicated. The Eberle pick was the only one that was great considering draft position, and most teams manage to pull a lucky one out of their asses from time to time anyway.
- laughs2907

I dont think Stu drafted Eberle

People need to try and remember that 1st overalls may step directly into the NHL but lower picks generally take time. You can't rationally brand Stu as a drafting failure nor genius yet.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

The worse part is he is only doing what the GM asks of him. ST made a move and made Stu go after guys that had lots of character. With Mac, Stu is now suppose to look for skill no matter what the deficiency.

I dont think Stu drafted Eberle
- saskoil21

He did, was his first year as head amateur scout.

Yet we are in dire need of a Landeskog 'type' player moreso that a RNH 'type' if we had fwds with size this discussion is moot... however...
- saskoil21

We don't need a first line center?

People need to try and remember that 1st overalls may step directly into the NHL but lower picks generally take time. You can't rationally brand Stu as a drafting failure nor genius yet.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

He's been here since 2007... He hasn't earned the "magnificent" title yet... It may change down the road, but right now, he should be named Stu "Average" MacGregor.

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...aft/teams/dr00005632.html

We don't need a first line center?
- Al Hacker

Nope. A winger that bangs with a concussion would be better.

He's been here since 2007... He hasn't earned the "magnificent" title yet... It may change down the road, but right now, he should be named Stu "Average" MacGregor.

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...aft/teams/dr00005632.html
- laughs2907

and the scouting and drafting was ballz before that. It kinda takes time to revamp these things...especially when the mother club has gone into 'burn and salt the earth' mode.

Nope. A winger that bangs with a concussion would be better.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

Correction... keep the injured center... as for concussions- hall has had one...skinner - ditto... I guess RNH is immune? Further- Hall is a winger turned center- I guess Landeskog cant take draws and win what 40+% of the draws... its not like RNH has a great f/o winning percentage...

and the scouting and drafting was ballz before that. It kinda takes time to revamp these things...especially when the mother club has gone into 'burn and salt the earth' mode.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

No one can argue that, that's for sure.

And I still see 0 for NHL games... so where does he appear to look like a genius to date??? Out of that entire bunch maybe Khaira gets a lick...
- saskoil21

Take a look over the past 4 years of the NHL draft. How many players outside of the first round are nhlers today? And how many are impact guys?

Yet we are in dire need of a Landeskog 'type' player moreso that a RNH 'type' if we had fwds with size this discussion is moot... however...
- saskoil21

...But would Landeskog have made captain in Edmonton?

Correction... keep the injured center... as for concussions- hall has had one...skinner - ditto... I guess RNH is immune? Further- Hall is a winger turned center- I guess Landeskog cant take draws and win what 40+% of the draws... its not like RNH has a great f/o winning percentage...
- saskoil21

True Number 1 centers are the toughest commodity to find in hockey.

Assuming Both players top end potential, nuge is absolutely the right choice