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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 29 @ 4:05 PM ET
If we have depth enough in D to send a player like Corrado down to the farm (which we actually do) then that's where the trade for an impact player needs to come from. Trade a D for a top 6 forward. Let's go Gillis...
- AlexF



if this team struggles you may see an impact trade later this year.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 29 @ 4:06 PM ET
if this team struggles you may see an impact trade later this year.
- VANTEL



Agreed. All bets are off at that point.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 29 @ 4:07 PM ET
If we have depth enough in D to send a player like Corrado down to the farm (which we actually do) then that's where the trade for an impact player needs to come from. Trade a D for a top 6 forward. Let's go Gillis...
- AlexF


Good point. If all the rumors are true about them shopping Edler this summer, they were thinking about making an impact trade from this position at one point.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 29 @ 4:09 PM ET
Good point. If all the rumors are true about them shopping Edler this summer, they were thinking about making an impact trade from this position at one point.
- boonerbuck



But why give him a NTC then?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 29 @ 4:12 PM ET
Good point. If all the rumors are true about them shopping Edler this summer, they were thinking about making an impact trade from this position at one point.
- boonerbuck



If Torts can keep Edler playing mean ,they may not move him.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 29 @ 4:12 PM ET
So, have the Canucks just created over a million in cap space by sending Horvats 1.75m ELC to junior? Dalphe makes 550k....
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Sep 29 @ 4:14 PM ET
We kind of need some cap space for that....and another team with the opposite problem....
- chompsey


Trade Edler ($5m cap) for a froward at or close to the same cap. Problem solved.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Sep 29 @ 4:16 PM ET
But why give him a NTC then?
- Nucker101


Because it sounded good at the time? I'm all for player loyalty but we also need to be addressing the team's needs as and when they arise, not only when all the stars align contractually speaking.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 29 @ 4:16 PM ET
Trade Edler ($5m cap) for a froward at or close to the same cap. Problem solved.
- AlexF



Edler for John Scott just to piss of Kessel
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Sep 29 @ 4:18 PM ET
Edler for John Scott just to piss of Kessel
- VANTEL


boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 29 @ 4:18 PM ET
But why give him a NTC then?
- Nucker101


There were rumors after July 1st that Edler was still being shopped. Maybe there was some truth to that, maybe not. If it was, maybe Edler left the door open for a couple destinations?

If all NTC's on our D are concrete... the only asset worth anything is Tanev and not likely to land a big fish on his own.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Sep 29 @ 4:19 PM ET
Trade Edler ($5m cap) for a froward at or close to the same cap. Problem solved.
- AlexF


Then who quarterbacks the PP? If Edler puts his game together, I wouldn't move him - best all around Canucks dman......
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Sep 29 @ 4:20 PM ET
Then who quarterbacks the PP? If Edler puts his game together, I wouldn't move him - best all around Canucks dman......
- chompsey


Garrison.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Sep 29 @ 4:21 PM ET
Garrison.
- AlexF



i dont think so, the guy can shoot but there is no way that guy should be quarterbacking any PP.....he's the triggerman on the PP tho....
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 29 @ 4:22 PM ET
Garrison.
- AlexF



Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 29 @ 4:28 PM ET
Garrison.
- AlexF



Then we open up a new problem, lack of a highly skilled puck moving d-man. I don't believe in the rest of this d-core as much when it comes purely to offensive skill. Garrison has a bomb, but he can't carry the puck. Hamhuis is decent, same with Bieksa but nit highly skilled offensively. I'd rather keep Edler, buyout Booth next season and use the freed up cap space to sign or acquire a top 6 forward. Plus Horvat/Shinkaruk/Corrado will be a year older by then.
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Sep 29 @ 4:30 PM ET
There were rumors after July 1st that Edler was still being shopped. Maybe there was some truth to that, maybe not. If it was, maybe Edler left the door open for a couple destinations?

If all NTC's on our D are concrete... the only asset worth anything is Tanev and not likely to land a big fish on his own.

- boonerbuck

You bag anything yet this year buddy?
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Sep 29 @ 4:31 PM ET
i dont think so, the guy can shoot but there is no way that guy should be quarterbacking any PP.....he's the triggerman on the PP tho....
- chompsey


Let me get this straight, the consideration for who should QB the 1st PP unit (which sucked last year even with Edler btw) should trump the need to attain a top 6 forward that might actually address our biggest concern for the past several seasons (scoring)?
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Sep 29 @ 4:33 PM ET
Then we open up a new problem, lack of a highly skilled puck moving d-man. I don't believe in the rest of this d-core as much when it comes purely to offensive skill. Garrison has a bomb, but he can't carry the puck. Hamhuis is decent, same with Bieksa but nit highly skilled offensively. I'd rather keep Edler, buyout Booth next season and use the freed up cap space to sign or acquire a top 6 forward. Plus Horvat/Shinkaruk/Corrado will be a year older by then.
- Nucker101


So will the Sedins, Luongo, and Kesler who may even closer to that final injury which puts him out of commission for extended amounts of time.

I've seen this team with Edler absent and I didn't see a gaping hole open up at the back. What I have seen over the past few seasons are gaping holes in productivity up front. Those are still there.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 29 @ 4:34 PM ET
Unless there is some tragic season ending injuries(aside from Booth), we play out this line up with just tinkering by management and coaches I think. I fear changing our D at this point anyways which with Luongo, will be what gets us into the playoffs. I don't see the Canucks domination in the scoring department outside of special teams.

Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Sep 29 @ 4:35 PM ET
So, have the Canucks just created over a million in cap space by sending Horvats 1.75m ELC to junior? Dalphe makes 550k....
- boonerbuck

Well Horvats actual cap hit is 900k I believe. Shink is like 750k. Canucks actually have about 2.5 mill in cap space
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Sep 29 @ 4:36 PM ET
Seahawks
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Sep 29 @ 4:36 PM ET
Unless there is some tragic season ending injuries(aside from Booth), we play out this line up with just tinkering by management and coaches I think. I fear changing our D at this point anyways which with Luongo, will be what gets us into the playoffs. I don't see the Canucks domination in the scoring department outside of special teams.
- boonerbuck

Yeah. I think the canucks might be better suited for close gritty games under AV
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 29 @ 4:39 PM ET
Well Horvats actual cap hit is 900k I believe. Shink is like 750k. Canucks actually have about 2.5 mill in cap space
- Bieksa#3


Don't forget Booth's LTIR 4.2
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 29 @ 4:40 PM ET
Seahawks
- A_SteamingLombardi

I don't know how they won that, but I'll take it.
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