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SofaKingBored
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Halifax, NS
Joined: 10.13.2006

Sep 28 @ 11:48 AM ET
I didn't say "Full NHL roster", I said NHL roster.
- StargateSG1



You went full potato...
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Sep 28 @ 11:49 AM ET
Our lineup is brutal for tonight.

Bolland is the only one who will make the Leafs up front
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Sep 28 @ 11:49 AM ET
Big trade coming down. Might be for Louongo.
- Leafland

systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 28 @ 11:49 AM ET
Big trade coming down. Might be for Louongo.
- Leafland



Kessel, Kadri, Bernier, Reimer, Gardiner and two 1st round picks for Luongo, Raymond and the Sedins.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 28 @ 11:50 AM ET
Our lineup is brutal for tonight.

Bolland is the only one who will make the Leafs up front

- jbold



It sure is.... but at least one of those guys is going to make it (ashton, colborne, broll, devane)
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 28 @ 11:52 AM ET
It sure is.... but at least oen of those guys is going to make it (ashton, colborne, broll, devane)
- burn


Stee-Dot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: obiwanmcgregor is connecting to EA servers...
Joined: 08.25.2013

Sep 28 @ 11:52 AM ET
It sure is.... but at least oen of those guys is going to make it (ashton, colborne, broll, devane)
- burn

oen?
StargateSG1
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Buffalo Grove, IL
Joined: 03.07.2013

Sep 28 @ 11:53 AM ET
So,stargateSG1, tell me something...


If preseason means so much, and the Wings are last in their division, what does this mean? I mean, you're saying how relevant this all is...so yea....you might want to stop avoiding this little conundrum of yours.

- systemtool


I never said preseason means everything.
What I am saying is that the records are only somewhat relevant when the A teams go head to head, not B Teams, full of prospects.
Yesterday both "A Teams" were on the ice. Tonight it'll mostly be the Griffins - Marlies preseason game.
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Sep 28 @ 11:55 AM ET
I never said preseason means everything.
What I am saying is that the records are only somewhat relevant when the A teams go head to head, not B Teams, full of prospects.
Yesterday both "A Teams" were on the ice. Tonight it'll mostly be the Griffins - Marlies preseason game.

- StargateSG1

Except we were missing our best player.


Pre-season means nothing. Veterans dont put their full effort into a pre-season game.
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Sep 28 @ 11:55 AM ET
I never said preseason means everything.
What I am saying is that the records are only somewhat relevant when the A teams go head to head, not B Teams, full of prospects.
Yesterday both "A Teams" were on the ice. Tonight it'll mostly be the Griffins - Marlies preseason game.

- StargateSG1

Except we were missing our best player.


Pre-season means nothing. Veterans dont put their full effort into a pre-season game.
MetroidPrime
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tim Brent's Basement, Cambridge, ON
Joined: 01.20.2010

Sep 28 @ 11:55 AM ET
Our lineup is brutal for tonight.

Bolland is the only one who will make the Leafs up front

- jbold


my dad says we can be a family again if the leafs win tonight
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 28 @ 11:56 AM ET
I never said preseason means everything.
What I am saying is that the records are only somewhat relevant when the A teams go head to head, not B Teams, full of prospects.
Yesterday both "A Teams" were on the ice. Tonight it'll mostly be the Griffins - Marlies preseason game.

- StargateSG1



No.
The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 11.17.2007

Sep 28 @ 11:57 AM ET
...Problem is Clarkson suspension (covered by your 13th Fwrd) but Mclaren isn't ready yet.
- burn


I know short term injuries still count against the cap, but as far as I know, they can be replaced by a player from anywhere up to their cap hit value until they return.

If the same mechanism applies to suspensions, you could replace Clarkson and McLarens spots in the line up with guys like Ashton, Colborne, Biggs, DaMigo, etc. without adding to the overall team cap hit, aslong as those players don't have a cap hit that's higher than the guy they're replacing.



...are you counting bonus cushion? Gardiner Ashton and reilly all have bonus cushion that doesn't need to be counted (but is under Capgeek)
- burn



SALARY CAP: $64,300,000
CAP PAYROLL: $65,525,833
BONUSES: $1,350,000

The bonuses are included, so there would be a carry over into the next season, depending upon what the teams final cap hit is.

Remember that even in the minors, Liles would still carry a cap hit of 2.95 against the big club.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 28 @ 11:58 AM ET
I know short term injuries still count against the cap, but as far as I know, they can be replaced by a player from anywhere up to their cap hit value until they return.

If the same mechanism applies to suspensions, you could replace Clarkson and McLarens spots in the line up with guys like Ashton, Colborne, Biggs, DaMigo, etc. without adding to the overall team cap hit, aslong as those players don't have a cap hit that's higher than the guy they're replacing.






SALARY CAP: $64,300,000
CAP PAYROLL: $65,525,833
BONUSES: $1,350,000

The bonuses are included, so there would be a carry over into the next season, depending upon what the teams final cap hit is.

Remember that even in the minors, Liles would still carry a cap hit of 2.95 against the big club.

- The Shrike



Only if they are on IR. If Mclaren isn't on IR then his cap hit still counts+ the guys replacing him.
Stee-Dot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: obiwanmcgregor is connecting to EA servers...
Joined: 08.25.2013

Sep 28 @ 12:00 PM ET
I never said preseason means everything.
What I am saying is that the records are only somewhat relevant when the A teams go head to head, not B Teams, full of prospects.
Yesterday both "A Teams" were on the ice. Tonight it'll mostly be the Griffins - Marlies preseason game.

- StargateSG1

You are debating with an opposing team's fan... this will not end in the near future.

Said fans will naturally stick up for thier team and counter-argue.

They are not going tp up and say "Hey Stargate, you know what?... you're right bro. I'm gonna log off now."

This will just go on and on and on.

Thought I'd give you a heads up.
StargateSG1
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Buffalo Grove, IL
Joined: 03.07.2013

Sep 28 @ 12:02 PM ET
You are debating with an opposing team's fan... this will not end in the near future.

Said fans will naturally stick up for thier team and counter-argue.

They are not going tp up and say "Hey Stargate, you know what?... you're right bro. I'm gonna log off now."

This will just go on and on and on.

Thought I'd give you a heads up.

- Stee-Dot


Somehow I knew it..
The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 11.17.2007

Sep 28 @ 12:02 PM ET
If preseason didn't have any effect, they wouldn't play 8 preseason games.
Penqueens only played 6 total.
I guess someone sees some value in it, other than revenue.

- StargateSG1


Getting regulars in shape under semi game like conditions, try outs for the youngsters and others who are on the cusp. They can't just jump right from the golf course to the regular season.

Oh, and it's about the revenue, heck, MLSEL makes over $2 million on a pre season game.
Stee-Dot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: obiwanmcgregor is connecting to EA servers...
Joined: 08.25.2013

Sep 28 @ 12:05 PM ET
Somehow I knew it..

- StargateSG1

I've spent too many years here... I know these guys' behavior like the back of my hand.
StargateSG1
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Buffalo Grove, IL
Joined: 03.07.2013

Sep 28 @ 12:09 PM ET
Except we were missing our best player.


Pre-season means nothing. Veterans dont put their full effort into a pre-season game.

- jbold


You were missing Kessel, that's 1.
Who else?
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Sep 28 @ 12:14 PM ET
You were missing Kessel, that's 1.
Who else?

- StargateSG1

Im sorry, (frank) head. Did you see a "s" at the end of player?

Didn't think so.
StargateSG1
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Buffalo Grove, IL
Joined: 03.07.2013

Sep 28 @ 12:15 PM ET
Im sorry, (frank) head. Did you see a "s" at the end of player?

Didn't think so.

- jbold


Are you dumb or something?
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Sep 28 @ 12:15 PM ET
Are you dumb or something?
- StargateSG1

Yes. Yes I am.


Now move along.
The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 11.17.2007

Sep 28 @ 12:16 PM ET
Only if they are on IR. If Mclaren isn't on IR then his cap hit still counts+ the guys replacing him.
- burn


If McLaren or Orr aren't ready for the season, I imagine they would go on IR. Guys like Ashton can manage in the meantime.
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Sep 28 @ 12:18 PM ET
If McLaren or Orr aren't ready for the season, I imagine they would go on IR. Guys like Ashton can manage in the meantime.
- The Shrike

Devane and Ashton probably.
StargateSG1
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Buffalo Grove, IL
Joined: 03.07.2013

Sep 28 @ 12:18 PM ET
Yes. Yes I am.


Now move along.

- jbold


Take something for that, but I doubt any help is available.
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