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kylkri
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: castleton, ON
Joined: 08.07.2010

Sep 28 @ 7:59 PM ET
So, do they just not take the refs word for it that Bisonnette left the bench? It's pretty black and white, either he's on it or not. It's not like they need video to evaluate the savagery of the incident, like when the Evildoer Kessel went on his kill-crazy ramapage and tried to mutilate John Scott.
- Zezel

That poor little john scott feller has been having lumberjack nightmares ever since
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Sep 28 @ 7:59 PM ET
Yes guys. It's a conspiracy. A conspiracy to keep one of the most integral players on the League's team from missing more than 4.5 minutes of combined ice time.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Sep 28 @ 8:00 PM ET
Yes guys. It's a conspiracy. A conspiracy to keep one of the most integral players on the League's team from missing more than 4.5 minutes of combined ice time.
- weirdoh




DrNHL will get to the bottom of this


Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

Sep 28 @ 8:01 PM ET
Yes guys. It's a conspiracy. A conspiracy to keep one of the most integral players on the League's team from missing more than 4.5 minutes of combined ice time.
- weirdoh


I never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence.

This is just business as usual for a league that can't make up its mind. It's bizarre that a player can appeal, win the appeal, then still get suspended in some halfhearted compromise.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Sep 28 @ 8:01 PM ET
That poor little john scott feller has been having lumberjack nightmares ever since
- kylkri


he has crippling flashbacks now every time he tries to beat up someone way smaller than him
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Sep 28 @ 8:01 PM ET
Yes guys. It's a conspiracy. A conspiracy to keep one of the most integral players on the League's team from missing more than 4.5 minutes of combined ice time.
- weirdoh

Guys a fan favourite in Phoenix.
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Sep 28 @ 8:02 PM ET
woemns ball hockey
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Sep 28 @ 8:03 PM ET
woemns ball hockey
- wingz4life

Red Wings off-ice training?
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Sep 28 @ 8:04 PM ET
woemns ball hockey
- wingz4life


women's field hockey is the best
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Sep 28 @ 8:04 PM ET
Red Wings off-ice training?
- Leafland

what kind of training..
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Sep 28 @ 8:05 PM ET
women's field hockey is the best
- Zezel

womens rugby, large thighs
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Sep 28 @ 8:06 PM ET
womens rugby, large thighs
- wingz4life


good call, they play rough
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 28 @ 8:06 PM ET
DrNHL will get to the bottom of this
- robin_steele264


weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Sep 28 @ 8:07 PM ET
Guys a fan favourite in Phoenix.
- Leafland




Puts fans in the seats. They need him.
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Sep 28 @ 8:08 PM ET
Nice wheels from Bodie.
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Sep 28 @ 8:08 PM ET
Nice wheels by Bodie.
- Leafland

thats why hes a AHLer, guy has a open shot and passes it to nobody
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Sep 28 @ 8:09 PM ET
thats why hes a AHLer, guy has a open shot and passes it to nobody
- wingz4life

Yeah that was a bit strange.
Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

Sep 28 @ 8:11 PM ET
Puts fans in the seats. They need him.
- weirdoh


Yeah, he's got the star power to convince people to accept free tickets.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 28 @ 8:12 PM ET
You two sound like "The View" panel, discussing Angela Jolie's red carpet dress.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 28 @ 8:13 PM ET
Where is stargazerSG1 when you need him?
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Sep 28 @ 8:14 PM ET
Where is stargazerSG1 when you need him?
- systemtool

wings have their prospects playing,hes ina coma
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 28 @ 8:19 PM ET
wings have their prospects playing,hes ina coma
- wingz4life


Wings goalie looks sharp. In other words, he doesn't look Luongo out there.
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Sep 28 @ 8:22 PM ET
Bodies caphit is only 600k, might see him on the team.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Sep 28 @ 8:22 PM ET
Skimming though parts of the last couple threads, I'm still not sure how this "Maple Leafs cap hell" scenario is supposed to make sense. I went to look at CapGeek to see if I figure out what people were talking about.

As far as I can tell, our 2014-15 roster will look like this:

Lupul: 5.25
Clarkson: 5.25
JVR: 4.25
Bozak: 4.2
Liles: 3.875
Gunnarsson: 3.15
Bernier: 2.9
Kadri: 2.9
Orr: 0.925
McLaren: 0.7

7 forwards, 2 defensemen, and 1 goalie.
Total under contract: 33.4 million

Assuming we want to go with the exact same roster, add in:

Kessel @ 8
Phaneuf @ 7
Franson @ 4
Fraser @ 1.3
Ranger @ 1.5
Gardiner @ 2.5
Reimer @ 2.9
Kulemin @ 3
Bolland @ 4
McClement @ 2.5
Raymond @ 2
Random AHL forward @ 0.8

Altogether, you've got 13 forwards, 7 defensemen, and 2 goalies.

Total: 72.9 million

So, yeah, it's a little over next year's projected cap (let's say 68-69 million), but let's keep in mind that I've got Liles slotted in, Kessel and Phaneuf at their absolute ceilings, and Reimer making 2.9 (same as Bernier). In reality, they'll probably move a goalie and bring in a back-up around 1 mil.

I've also got Bolland and McClement getting raises, as well as Raymond getting resigned. You've got some wiggle room in the bottom six to play bargain-basement AHLers or find another Jay McClement type of gem in free agency.

Right away, you can probably shave 3-4 million off that 72.9 figure. Boom. Done.

- Leeman4Gilmour


when re-signing your current (non Cup contending) roster puts you over the estimated cap, that's certainly not an ideal situation. but TBH, the flexibility is a nice thing to have. Leafs can potentially move on from a lot of pieces on that roster.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Sep 28 @ 8:24 PM ET
You guys have been at this math for a week it's unreal just relax and enjoy the games.
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