I think we'll find that this was done for flexibility, and likely has to do with preparing for a potential move that is in the works. Have to let it play out and see what happens. Just because Hall was waived, doesn't mean he's not going to be on the team. Waiver take 24 hours, and every team needs to finalize their roster on Monday. So waiving anyone on Sunday is too late.
- MJL

i hear ya. i just mean that anytime you put someone through waivers there's at least the possibility that they could be claimed. putting hall through before rosehill means they're more comfortable losing hall than they would be losing rosehill (i can't see any other way to interpret it). i personally just can't fathom any reason why that should be the case

Good move waiving Hall. I was terrified they would do something stupid like waive Rosehill.
- PLindbergh31

Homer reaaallllllyyy wants Gill on this team...

Sam Carchidi ‏@BroadStBull 47m
I'm told the odds are LESS than 50/50 that #Flyers will make a deal before rosters have to be submitted on Monday at 5.

I thought I read somewhere that the Flyers practice at the Skate Zone Sunday, but it's not listed on the Fyers website. Anyone know if they have an open practice tomorrow?

Homer reaaallllllyyy wants Gill on this team...
- Tomahawk

Gill has absolutely done enough to make the team.

i hear ya. i just mean that anytime you put someone through waivers there's at least the possibility that they could be claimed. putting hall through before rosehill means they're more comfortable losing hall than they would be losing rosehill (i can't see any other way to interpret it). i personally just can't fathom any reason why that should be the case
- FlyerMike18

Well no, what it really means is that the potential move affect the Center position, versus the Wing. It's not that they like Rosehill better then Hall.

I thought I read somewhere that the Flyers practice at the Skate Zone Sunday, but it's not listed on the Fyers website. Anyone know if they have an open practice tomorrow?
- Dkos

Sam Carchidi ‏@BroadStBull 7h
#Flyers will report to Voorhees for practice Sun. at 11 am and be on ice at noon. Open to public.

I really think Lavvi has to go.
What worked in the return after lockout season in 05-06 with the Canes is long gone, the officiating has changed radically like it does every year depending on the whims of the morons in the league offices.
The Canes got away with Murder when Justin Williams caused an eye injury to Sakku Koivu of the Habs in that series and the refs swallowed their whistles on other things I questioned at the time.
The 2010 team caught lightning in a bottle and in 2012 the team upset a strange Pens team, but this unit is built on aging names and not rising stars
This "system"is the square peg in the round hole for this defense corps
Lavvi is as terrible at adjusting as Andy Reid was and I dont mean showing up the now fired coach of the Bolts when he instructed to the team not to go up ice when the bolts were in the 1-3-1 or whatever garbage trap that was .
He sticks to a system that is easily defended against by teams with lesser overall talent but better goaltending and schemes.
I have no illusions about how deep this team could go with better system, as the horses are not there on D . But Lavvi is like a bad chef, spoiling the stew by not using the ingredients properly

I wish I could waste 80-100 mill a year in overhead with as poor results as this coach does. I could retire on the interest alone for a short time. Same for Homer even though some of the debacles are driven by the owner.
The Flyers have become the old Rangers signing overpaid over the hill stars and feeding the fans false hopes without a solid plan for building a team.
I hate the Devils, but Lou L has the plan and if he worked for the Flyers we would not have these same stupid discussions every year
Its like watching a band that always screws up the same songs in the same spots year after year
- Steelmanpa

Just my opinion, but I think the flyers are a poorly built team. That's not to say there isn't a ton of skill on the team. Its like a rerun of the same movie. The flyers continuely fill defense and goaltending with patch work fixes and load up down the middle.
- Bieksa#3

Dead on.

Sometimes its good to get a grasp from an outsider, instead of those of us who overanalyze this team on occassion.

You nailed one of the largest issues, that have been going on for years.

Sam Carchidi ‏@BroadStBull 47m
I'm told the odds are LESS than 50/50 that #Flyers will make a deal before rosters have to be submitted on Monday at 5.
- moylander

what does eskin say

Well no, what it really means is that the potential move affect the Center position, versus the Wing. It's not that they like Rosehill better then Hall.
- MJL

hall also plays wing though. it at least means they like rosehill better on the wing

I won't even lie: I'm as patient as anybody, but if somebody told me that I wouldn't have to worry about goaltending for 5-7 years and that the defenseman would fit our system better than who we have now...I'd listen.

I'm getting worn down by it all -- missing the playoffs last year, any year, is ridiculous. But Philadelphia isn't like some other cities who rebuild for 6 years, draft in the Top 5 like it doesn't matter that you've become a loser, a joke of a franchise.

For once since 1987, I'd like the freaking goaltending to be fixed. And it'd be nice to have a No. 1 defenseman again. The Flyers have done their best to address these things, and it's not certainly not their fault that Chris Pronger got hurt.

But yeah. One time, I'd like to know what it feels like to go into a season with a No. 1 goaltender AND a No. 1 defenseman. Just to remember what it feels like.
- AllInForFlyers

You know, I am sure a lot of the older posters would agree with this. When I originally even came on the board, in regards to the team I was more cheerful if that makes sense.

Without getting too Dr. Phil, they have turned my passion close to apathy. We are all fans of this team, even those of us who complain, but I would be curious if the fanbase in general, is growing toward "being worn down" as you mention.

Sam Carchidi ‏@BroadStBull 7h
#Flyers will report to Voorhees for practice Sun. at 11 am and be on ice at noon. Open to public.
- JAKEw1234

Ah, Inky, I knew I read it somewhere. Thanks. What do you think, will it be crowded?

hall also plays wing though. it at least means they like rosehill better on the wing
- FlyerMike18

That's not what it means to me. This is about roster flexibility, and a potential move. I don't think it's about not liking Hall, or liking Rosehill more then Hall.

hall also plays wing though. it at least means they like rosehill better on the wing
- FlyerMike18

Rosehill couldn't crack a dogpoop roster in Toronto a few years ago.

Ah, Inky, I knew I read it somewhere. Thanks. What do you think, will it be crowded?
- Dkos

tbh? I have no idea.

You know, I am sure a lot of the older posters would agree with this. When I originally even came on the board, in regards to the team I was more cheerful if that makes sense.

Without getting too Dr. Phil, they have turned my passion close to apathy. We are all fans of this team, even those of us who complain, but I would be curious if the fanbase in general, is growing toward "being worn down" as you mention.
- flyer_nutter

I am.

hall also plays wing though. it at least means they like rosehill better on the wing
- FlyerMike18

Yeah, Hall could have easily moved to either wing (or been the 13th forward) if they really valued him enough to keep him on the roster.

Nobody's going to say that Rosehill is a more useful player than Hall, but he benefits from being the only heavyweight on the roster, thus he fills a role that management appears to deem mandatory.

It also now seems that they're going to fill the 3rd-line wing spot via trade/UFA... wouldn't expect it to happen until after Oct 1, though.

You know, I am sure a lot of the older posters would agree with this. When I originally even came on the board, in regards to the team I was more cheerful if that makes sense.

Without getting too Dr. Phil, they have turned my passion close to apathy. We are all fans of this team, even those of us who complain, but I would be curious if the fanbase in general, is growing toward "being worn down" as you mention.
- flyer_nutter

nothing says "apathetic" like posting every day on a message board, discussing the friggin preseason and telling people how apathetic you are

I am.
- wilsonecho91

In regards to the complaining, or what I mentioned in the post.

nothing says "apathetic" like posting every day on a message board, discussing the friggin preseason and telling people how apathetic you are


- Crimsoninja

Hell I know Crims, believe me its ironic.

Obviously there is still passion there, but I suppose I can feel it kind of starting to waver. Not really for good or anything, but I can admit it. Thats the only real frustrating item.

Not living in Philly its hard to know, but I do seriously wonder what the mood is like in general.

Yeah, Hall could have easily moved to either wing (or been the 13th forward) if they really valued him enough to keep him on the roster.

Nobody's going to say that Rosehill is a more useful player than Hall, but he benefits from being the only heavyweight on the roster, thus he fills a role that management appears to deem mandatory.

It also now seems that they're going to fill the 3rd-line wing spot via trade/UFA... wouldn't expect it to happen until after Oct 1, though.
- Tomahawk

Have to see what happens. Hall could still be on the opening day roster with Laughton on the 3rd line.

That's not what it means to me. This is about roster flexibility, and a potential move. I don't think it's about not liking Hall, or liking Rosehill more then Hall.
- MJL

yea i think it's very possible that they are not focusing on that at all, and that they're just waiving him because of the glut of centers on the roster

but i'd be thinking of it that way haha, because i like hall and i'd prefer him over rosehill (and rinaldo)on laughton's wing. chances are that it won't matter because he'll clear so it's not like i'm furious, just saying that i'd rather expose a fighter to the risk than a useful 4th line vet like hall

yea i think it's very possible that they are not focusing on that at all, and that they're just waiving him because of the glut of centers on the roster

but i'd be thinking of it that way haha, because i like hall and i'd prefer him over rosehill (and rinaldo)on laughton's wing. chances are that it won't matter because he'll clear so it's not like i'm furious, just saying that i'd rather expose a fighter to the risk than a useful 4th line vet like hall
- FlyerMike18

I doubt you'll find anyone that favors Rosehill over Hall. I think there's some things at work here that were not privy to. Perhaps the rumored Meszaros deal, who knows. I really hope Hall stays.

Hell I know Crims, believe me its ironic.

Obviously there is still passion there, but I suppose I can feel it kind of starting to waver. Not really for good or anything, but I can admit it. Thats the only real frustrating item.

Not living in Philly its hard to know, but I do seriously wonder what the mood is like in general.
- flyer_nutter

sure the approach can be frustrating, but to me, its pretty cut and dry

there's two ways to operate in this current NHL. either try your best to patchwork things while maintaining a playoff caliber team and hope for the best... or to suck for around 5 years and build completely through the draft.

there's really not much middleground.

personally, im proud to root for a team that refuses to accept losing and has only missed the playoffs in 1.5 seasons in the last long while.