Flyers top 9 is extremely over rated. They miss the playoffs again.
- Sell My Monkey

Philly's defense will be their demise. Too slow. Not break out capability, just like last year. Teams are going to forecheck them into submission.

Id say making the playoffs almost 15 years in row is relevant enough sure we havnt won a cup but at least we have made the cup finals in the last 20 years
- arnpriorguy

Maybe, but you were never a threat for the cup. You were consistently decent.

you'd think Jose Theodore would at least get a tryout
- ky678468

They should've, but that boat has sailed. I'm sticking with the idea that one way or another, the Isles will end up with Halak.

You give the Devils too much credit.
- flamminghead

Does he, though?

Agreed, flyers as well, Columbus gets no love or the Isles. I could see either Columbus and Carolina surprising. Especially if Ward and Bob stand on their heads. Vigneault will take too much time to get his head out of his ass despite Lundqvist. Caps aren't poope. Philly and Pitts GTing are poope...on par with MTLs. Toss up to win this pooptily named conference...(frank)ing metrosexual BS especially if Sidney gets smoked.
- Pie

So let me get this straight. You think everybody is going to be in shock because every team is going to surprise except the Devils. I sense a little bias, sir.

If B Schenn doesn't show more he could possibly be moved to the third line. He needs to step it up. Only good thing is that he is still young.
- steveromanowski

Agreed. Matt Read looks infinitely more deserving of a top 6 spot right now.

Spezza the most overrated center in the NHL the past decade. woo the Sens are scary
- mighty13duck

I'm just tired of hearing how whack the metro teams are while the nw teams are so amazing . It's BS.

Philly's defense will be their demise. Too slow. Not break out capability, just like last year. Teams are going to forecheck them into submission.
- WayneZ

Nah man we need a new coach. Our D would be fine with the right system, but this isn't that system.

Flyers top 9 is extremely over rated. They miss the playoffs again.
- Sell My Monkey

Nah man we need a new coach. Our D would be fine with the right system, but this isn't that system.
- JAKEw1234

Your d is among the worst in the metro.

- JAKEw1234

Flyers are not a good team, no matter where you look on this team.

I'm just tired of hearing how whack the metro teams are while the nw teams are so amazing . It's BS.
- GioRock

Agreed I would trade divisions with the Sens any day of the week.

Nah man we need a new coach. Our D would be fine with the right system, but this isn't that system.
- JAKEw1234

Something needs to change. Having top end offensive players like G is great and all, but if the defenders can't transition quickly and send them on their way, they spend their whole games in board battles in their own defensive zone.

Flyers are not a good team, no matter where you look on this team.
- GioRock

But we have talent in all of those places. On paper, we have one of the best top 9s in the league. To this point, we haven't seen them act like it. On paper, we have a lot of good individuals on defense. They seem like a pretty good D on paper. They haven't acted like it, though. The goaltending, on paper, doesn't seem great, but it doesn't seem bad either. But still, to this point they've barely even acted like average goalies. That sounds like a coaching problem, to me.

But we have talent in all of those places. On paper, we have one of the best top 9s in the league. To this point, we haven't seen them act like it. On paper, we have a lot of good individuals on defense. They seem like a pretty good D on paper. They haven't acted like it, though. The goaltending, on paper, doesn't seem great, but it doesn't seem bad either. But still, to this point they've barely even acted like average goalies. That sounds like a coaching problem, to me.
- JAKEw1234

When you say on paper are you referring to players salaries?

Something needs to change. Having top end offensive players like G is great and all, but if the defenders can't transition quickly and send them on their way, they spend their whole games in board battles in their own defensive zone.
- WayneZ

Our defenders should be able to. Timmo and Streit are both great puck movers. Gus is emerging as a good OFD. Mez is a good two-way guy when he's healthy. Our system doesn't support a transition game. As soon as our Dmen get the puck, our forwards immediately sprint as far up the ice as possible, creating a long gap between them and the Dman. Then teams that recognize this (like NJ), just throw some forwards in there to get in passing lanes and pressure the Dmen. It's not the Dman's fault he has to make an incredibly hard breakout pass every time, it's the forwards. They give him no support.

When you say on paper are you referring to players salaries?
- mighty13duck

I'm referring to stats. Almost everyone in our top 9 is capable of putting up 20 or more goals. There's no excuse for scoring 1 or no goals with as much scoring depth as we have.

Id say making the playoffs almost 15 years in row is relevant enough sure we havnt won a cup but at least we have made the cup finals in the last 20 years
- arnpriorguy

That's something to hang your hat on...

So you are saying that in the last 15 years you have won as many cups as us?

So you guys been around 21 years or so now... 2 lock outs so lets say 19 seasons. We had 5 trips and four cups to show in that same amount of time.

XxNYIxX

So let me get this straight. You think everybody is going to be in shock because every team is going to surprise except the Devils. I sense a little bias, sir.
- willschulme

No Will, I said that NYI, Canes and Columbus deserve a bit more respect. Canes, like MTL, if Ward shows up, and the other 2 because like TO (been away from the big OT forever and so they suck), people think of them being down, so thats where they stay, when in fact they aren't missing more than the favoured rivals (Pitt, NYR, Phi, Caps) in some respects. I don't remember saying anything about NJ, meh it happens, I guess they fall in with the 1st 3.

1)Pens-still hoping they can get by w/ Fleury
2)Flyers-was Vinnie and Streit enough
3)Caps-may be looking up
4)Rags-went backwards
5)NJ-lost Kovi
6)CBJ-went backwards
7)NYI-went backwards
8)Canes-struggling on D

1)Pens-still hoping they can get by w/ Fleury They Can
2)Flyers-was Vinnie and Streit enough Nope
3)Caps-may be looking up They are
4)Rags-went backwards Not a chance
5)NJ-lost Kovi Not that big a loss
6)CBJ-went backwards How?
7)NYI-went backwards How?
8)Canes-struggling on D agree
- section32

XxNYIxX

1)Pens-still hoping they can get by w/ Fleury
2)Flyers-was Vinnie and Streit enough
3)Caps-may be looking up
4)Rags-went backwards
5)NJ-lost Kovi
6)CBJ-went backwards
7)NYI-went backwards
8)Canes-struggling on D
- section32

Oh yeah that's right the devils lost kovy and didn't sign a bunch of players after

Oh yeah that's right the devils lost kovy and didn't sign a bunch of players after
- shvingter88

Yeah but you didn't sign Vinny & Streit two guys in their mid 30's who's best days are behind them

Yeah but you didn't sign Vinny & Streit two guys in their mid 30's who's best days are behind them
- Vukota

Lou really (frank)ed up