FYI , based on that equation and using 5% growth( way too low) you go from 3.6 to 3.78 to3.969 for this year. That means you need 230m form outdoor games to get 70m cap. That other guy is saying 180milfrom those games.

Everything points to it rising significantly. It's not far off from 70m with ridiculously low grow.
- burn

Right, even at 5% increase, it's still gets pretty damn close to that 70M figure.

nope. 3.3 billion
- scotch_tape

Can you show any link where it was 3.3 before the lockout season?

like Iggy arguing the Leafs would not be able to sign Franson and Kadri this year?

Then today, after both are indeed signed, Iggy says "I ARGUED they won't both be signed to long term deals" LOL

"Argued" - like anyone would have argued that? Considering everyone and their mother knew the Leafs were trying to sign both to bridge contracts.

Leaf-haters are nothing but windbags.
- Cooshie

I don't remember the original arguement so I can't say. But makes no sense to argue they wouldn't sign long term deals because as stated the leads clearly were looking at bridge contracts.

I want to know...does he use a magnet to catch steelhead?
- Woderwick

Too funny.. New style of fishing. Take you magnet.

Mr. Dozzer, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
- hscesq

Great movie

Not that it makes a big difference to this painted picture but Kessel will get more then 8Mill per....
- Cooshie

I doubt he gets 8M... 'cause Nonis will have Bozak hanging by his balls out the window...

7.7M is a fine number Phil, sign now... because my arm is getting tired holding onto Tyler ..

I don't remember the original arguement so I can't say. But makes no sense to argue they wouldn't sign long term deals because as stated the leads clearly were looking at bridge contracts.
- Yeti1181

Go the 2nd page and 7th from the top......
In black and white....


WINDBAG!!!

Can you show any link where it was 3.3 before the lockout season?
- Cooshie

http://nhlnumbers.com/201...ncel-the-2012-2013-season

the waiver and trade wire this weekend should be VERY interesting around the entire league
- jimi james

Yes indeed wonder who leafs are throwing on the waiver wire.

don't agree. if the CAP goes to 70, that's 6M of additional space.

there's an additional 2.5M because of the end of the Tucker, Armstrong, Frattin CAP hits.

take Liles hit or half of it off the books.

8.5M + 2.2M(Liles) = 10.7M

following guestimates:

Kessel - assume 2.6M pay increase - Phil gets 8M
Phaneuf - assume .5M pay increase - Dion gets 7M (no I don't think he's worth it)
Bolland, McClement, Kulimen and Fraser (UFA)s will average out to the same total amount , not much of difference.

Ranger, contingent upon play will either get 2M per season or stay at around 1.0-1.2 - let's be optomistic and call it .5M hit

so - before RFAs - who have little or no leverage typically... 2.6+0.5+0.5

Franson gets 3.5-4.0 - in short he gets Liles money - 2.0CAP increase

Gardiner - total wildcard - but worst (cost) case... he gets 2.5 for a couple bridge type deal 1.4CAP increase

Reimer is #1 -gets 3.5M - 1.7M CAP increase


net net 10.7available CAP

Leaf UFAs 3.6 new cap hit
RFAs 2.0 + 1.4 + 1.7 = 5.1 new CAP hit

3.6 + 5.1 = 8.7 verus 10.7 => 2.0M available

add Reilly 1.75M CAP increase
subtract Gunnarson (trade) 3.2 CAP decrease
- BorjeFan4Ever

And that's without adding a F.A or trade to improve the team.

Mr. Dozzer, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
- hscesq

Hey, if he wants to ramble on, leave him alone... We accept him for who he is..

Go the 2nd page and 7th from the top......
In black and white....


WINDBAG!!!
- Cooshie

Why you hafta be mad?

FYI , based on that equation and using 5% growth( way too low) you go from 3.6 to 3.78 to3.969 for this year. That means you need 230m form outdoor games to get 70m cap. That other guy is saying 180milfrom those games.

Everything points to it rising significantly. It's not far off from 70m with ridiculously low grow.
- burn

well a 50-50 split of 2011-2012's revenue would have yielded a $60 million cap hit. so im not sure thats completely correct.

Yes indeed wonder who leafs are throwing on the waiver wire.
- Yeti1181

Not sure, but I am guessing JML and Colburne, maybe more.

The league themselves said 7% growth, not 5%. There was more than 5% growth every year.

3.8b plus 7% + 180m for outdoor games = 4.246b.....works out to a 70.8m. Cap.
- burn

finally somebody wrote one i can understand

http://nhlnumbers.com/2012/10/1/why-the-nhl-lockout-wont-cancel-the-2012-2013-season
- scotch_tape

Damn you and your facts

Not sure, but I am guessing JML and Colburne, maybe more.
- bixll

I say they try trade Colbourne vs tossing him for nothing.

http://nhlnumbers.com/2012/10/1/why-the-nhl-lockout-wont-cancel-the-2012-2013-season
- scotch_tape

So if this is accurate then cap will be based on approx. 3.94B

The question is, which number is right - 3.6B or 3.28B?

I say they try trade Colbourne vs tossing him for nothing.
- Yeti1181

I would like for Nonis to impress me with his GM skills and go off the board. Bring us a deal that we have not talked about for a month or two..

well a 50-50 split of 2011-2012's revenue would have yielded a $60 million cap hit. so im not sure thats completely correct.
- scotch_tape

3.6bx 50% / 30=60m

I would like for Nonis to impress me with his GM skills and go off the board. Bring us a deal that we have not talked about for a month or two..
- bixll

February when he picks up O'Reilly

Why you hafta be mad?
- Yeti1181

Can't stand SH*T Talkers....can't people just man up to being wrong..

3.6bx 50% / 30=60m
- burn

no. it was 3.3, and that's not how the cap ceiling is calculated.

February when he picks up O'Reilly
- Yeti1181

Imagine.

Can't stand SH*T Talkers....can't people just man up to being wrong..

- Cooshie

I don't know. I've never been wrong in my life so the situation has never come up for me.