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big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Sep 27 @ 1:46 PM ET
actually your 3.6 is high

last year.. according to forbes.. revenue was 3.374 billion.

50% of this is 1.687 billion / 30 teams = 56.234

so.. your argument stands to this point.. but what you are not accounting for is that the league lost 1020 games last year, the outdoor classic, and the all star game

now.. revenue comes from a variet of places but lets say 60% can be attested to a game by game basis. therefore.. if the league made 3.374 billion x 0.6 = 2.0244 billion

divide that by number of games played per team (48) = 0.042175 billion

thats your per game league wide so multiply it over a full 82 game schedule = 3.45835 billion.

then add the 40% back in we took off in the first place ... therefore
3.45835 + 1.3496 = 4.80795 billion

not including all star game and outdoor classic

you are forgetting that the projections these people are making are based on a shortened season.. not a full 82.. on a game by game basis.. they've been higher than they've ever been

i am aware i am probably a lil high.. but its not unreasonable to assume the cap will be between 70 and 80million

- Dozzer


if i was gay it would be between you and mr lupul
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Sep 27 @ 1:46 PM ET
Jeebus! Look at you.
- Woderwick

He's not all looks you know, thank god have you seen him.
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Sep 27 @ 1:46 PM ET
I was gonna say them or LA

I was just trying to be funny


*slithers away in failure*

- Garnie


both have a great shot.

no failure!
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Sep 27 @ 1:47 PM ET
So you think revenue will be up 17% in one year? That is what it would take to get to 70 million. I know most cant calculate and do math...but the outdoor games project to add 180 mill....so even still not even close to getting to 70 mill...

We'll all just have to wait and see but my bet is we see 64-65 mill next season.

- Iggysbff


So you don`t think the cap will go up at all (its 64.3M right now).
Moreover, you do know that we`ll be freeing up 2.5M in cap space without having to do a single thing (buyouts and frattin and scrivens come off).

jimi james
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere Between, NB
Joined: 07.17.2010

Sep 27 @ 1:48 PM ET
well i guess u wil have to drive to big D's house
- big_dion

If I drive to your place buddy, we're goin fishing, not watching hockey
scotch_tape
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: he's coming
Joined: 07.26.2012

Sep 27 @ 1:49 PM ET
actually your 3.6 is high

last year.. according to forbes.. revenue was 3.374 billion.

50% of this is 1.687 billion / 30 teams = 56.234

so.. your argument stands to this point.. but what you are not accounting for is that the league lost 1020 games last year, the outdoor classic, and the all star game

now.. revenue comes from a variet of places but lets say 60% can be attested to a game by game basis. therefore.. if the league made 3.374 billion x 0.6 = 2.0244 billion

divide that by number of games played per team (48) = 0.042175 billion

thats your per game league wide so multiply it over a full 82 game schedule = 3.45835 billion.

then add the 40% back in we took off in the first place ... therefore
3.45835 + 1.3496 = 4.80795 billion

not including all star game and outdoor classic

you are forgetting that the projections these people are making are based on a shortened season.. not a full 82.. on a game by game basis.. they've been higher than they've ever been

i am aware i am probably a lil high.. but its not unreasonable to assume the cap will be between 70 and 80million

- Dozzer


why are you adding in the 40% at the end when you've already extrapolated the per-game for a full 82 game season?
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Sep 27 @ 1:49 PM ET
If I drive to your place buddy, we're goin fishing, not watching hockey
- jimi james


hahahahaha YES!

my man!

actually, fishing is awesome around here up til the end of the season...u just need waders and some warm gear for the steelhead!
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Sep 27 @ 1:50 PM ET
He's not all looks you know, thank god have you seen him.
- Yeti1181

No...just heard the Urban myths.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Sep 27 @ 1:50 PM ET
actually your 3.6 is high

last year.. according to forbes.. revenue was 3.374 billion.

50% of this is 1.687 billion / 30 teams = 56.234

so.. your argument stands to this point.. but what you are not accounting for is that the league lost 1020 games last year, the outdoor classic, and the all star game

now.. revenue comes from a variet of places but lets say 60% can be attested to a game by game basis. therefore.. if the league made 3.374 billion x 0.6 = 2.0244 billion

divide that by number of games played per team (48) = 0.042175 billion

thats your per game league wide so multiply it over a full 82 game schedule = 3.45835 billion.

then add the 40% back in we took off in the first place ... therefore
3.45835 + 1.3496 = 4.80795 billion

not including all star game and outdoor classic

you are forgetting that the projections these people are making are based on a shortened season.. not a full 82.. on a game by game basis.. they've been higher than they've ever been

i am aware i am probably a lil high.. but its not unreasonable to assume the cap will be between 70 and 80million

- Dozzer

Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Sep 27 @ 1:51 PM ET
why are you adding in the 40% at the end when you've already extrapolated the per-game for a full 82 game season?
- scotch_tape

Uh oh.
doinktheclown
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: DO NOT FEED THE GARTHS!
Joined: 08.01.2013

Sep 27 @ 1:51 PM ET
If you take 3.6 billion. Increase by 5 % then add 180 mill (for the outdoor games) that gets you to 3.96 billion. Still only 67 million Cap number. And I happen to believe that's generous. Sportsnet projection was about this much.
- Iggysbff



Year Revenue
2012-2013 3.6
2013-2014 3.8
2014-2015 4.0 Estimated

The 2014-2015 cap is calculated based on final 2013-2014 revenue X an estimated growth rate.

Does Sportsnet really need to add bad math to bad replays and poor production value.

$4B is the number i understand will be needed to get to a $70M cap.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 27 @ 1:52 PM ET
why are you adding in the 40% at the end when you've already extrapolated the per-game for a full 82 game season?
- scotch_tape


because i removed the 40% in the first place to account for set costs that arent not adjusted on a game by game basis.
MapleLeafs90
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.10.2013

Sep 27 @ 1:53 PM ET
I believe he outscored phaneuf last season, makes less dumb mistakes, actually hits the net and doesn't use his size enough. If he continues to improves this year, he could easily replace phaneuf as a number one dman who shouldn't be a number one dman.
- Fakepartofme


Easily? wow!

Pretty sure Phaneuf played top line minutes against top line competition all year, but yea you're right that can be replaced easily by a guy who had a great half a season playing majority of the time on the 3rd pairing. You underrate Phaneuf so much its ridiculous
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Sep 27 @ 1:54 PM ET
because i removed the 40% in the first place to account for set costs that arent not adjusted on a game by game basis.
- Dozzer

Scotch_tape...your move.
IrishRage
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็༼ ຈل͜ຈ༽ส�, ON
Joined: 08.02.2008

Sep 27 @ 1:56 PM ET
I always get th NHL center ice package yeah it's expensive but my days I want to be able to relax and watch the games.
- Yeti1181

If you have a decent laptop/desktop plugged into a tv buy the online version.
I have to buy it since the wife is a devils fan
But some really cool features
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Sep 27 @ 1:58 PM ET
because i removed the 40% in the first place to account for set costs that arent not adjusted on a game by game basis.
- Dozzer


no offense but I think your equation is flawed......
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Sep 27 @ 1:59 PM ET
no offense but I think your equation is flawed......
- Cooshie

enjoy your ban.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 27 @ 2:00 PM ET
If you take 3.6 billion. Increase by 5 % then add 180 mill (for the outdoor games) that gets you to 3.96 billion. Still only 67 million Cap number. And I happen to believe that's generous. Sportsnet projection was about this much.
- Iggysbff




The league themselves said 7% growth, not 5%. There was more than 5% growth every year.

3.8b plus 7% + 180m for outdoor games = 4.246b.....works out to a 70.8m. Cap.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 27 @ 2:00 PM ET
hahahahaha YES!

my man!

actually, fishing is awesome around here up til the end of the season...u just need waders and some warm gear for the steelhead!

- big_dion



Do you eat them or toss them back?
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Sep 27 @ 2:00 PM ET
The league themselves said 7% growth, not 5%. There was more than 5% growth every year.

3.8b plus 7% + 180m for outdoor games = 4.246b.....works out to a 70.8m. Cap.

- burn


i think the cap will be 70-72 mil which is pretty accurate with this, but, that being said it does have the chance to go higher than this.
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Sep 27 @ 2:01 PM ET
Do you eat them or toss them back?
- bixll


i only keep fish when im up north, and they have to be perfect.

99.99% of the fish i catch 400-600 a year, i dont keep, i toss back.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 27 @ 2:02 PM ET
i only keep fish when im up north, and they have to be perfect.

99.99% of the fish i catch 400-600 a year, i dont keep, i toss back.

- big_dion



I figured. Do the fish in Lake Ontario only have the one head?

Any of them have legs...
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Sep 27 @ 2:02 PM ET
The league themselves said 7% growth, not 5%. There was more than 5% growth every year.

3.8b plus 7% + 180m for outdoor games = 4.246b.....works out to a 70.8m. Cap.

- burn


Where are you getting the 3.8B figure from?
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 27 @ 2:04 PM ET
no offense but I think your equation is flawed......
- Cooshie


fair enough.. and yes.. admittedly.. its completely based on assumed percentages

the calculation itself is sound tho

on a game by game basis.. the revenue stream was higher than ever

dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Sep 27 @ 2:04 PM ET
fair enough.. and yes.. admittedly.. its completely based on assumed percentages

the calculation itself is sound tho

on a game by game basis.. the revenue stream was higher than ever

- Dozzer

what the hell is wrong with you?!?!
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