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-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Sep 27 @ 9:29 PM ET


wow, emery.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Sep 27 @ 9:29 PM ET
really nice defensive effort by Simonds
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Sep 27 @ 9:31 PM ET
unfortunately, yes

i don't often get the home feed

- -davies-


I mean, if Paul Steigerwald were on fire.....I would piss on him to put the fire out just so I could personally light him on fire again.

That's how horrible he is.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Sep 27 @ 9:33 PM ET
This game would be tied if you subtracted blatant errors made by Emery.
- JAKEw1234


Lets not get too devils advocate.

However this team had the option to trade for Schneider or Bernier. They chose not to.

Not saying those would have been better options, but I expect no miracles coming from between the pipes. Without Pronger to solidify that d-core, you get what you get.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 27 @ 9:33 PM ET
I know you're a troll but still...

Has scored 10+ goals in 3 seasons and scored 9 last season in 41 games, has also scored 20.

Im sure shelley has done that though

- Yosimar89

offensive juggernaut there for sure
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Sep 27 @ 9:35 PM ET
Lets not get too devils advocate.

However this team had the option to trade for Schneider or Bernier. They chose not to.

Not saying those would have been better options, but I expect no miracles coming from between the pipes. Without Pronger to solidify that d-core, you get what you get.

- flyer_nutter

As long as our system stays how it is, we will never have more than a mediocre goalie on this team. I think Lundqvists numbers would be closer to middle of the pack if he was playing on this team.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 27 @ 9:39 PM ET
As long as our system stays how it is, we will never have more than a mediocre goalie on this team. I think Lundqvists numbers would be closer to middle of the pack if he was playing on this team.
- JAKEw1234

fire lavi then!
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 27 @ 9:40 PM ET
another no namer a flyer fights
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 27 @ 9:40 PM ET
whatever
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Sep 27 @ 9:40 PM ET
Simmonds could have just put that kid into next week and pulled back.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Sep 27 @ 9:42 PM ET
As long as our system stays how it is, we will never have more than a mediocre goalie on this team. I think Lundqvists numbers would be closer to middle of the pack if he was playing on this team.
- JAKEw1234


Nothing personal Jake, but to me:
Boucher, Leighton, Rookie Bobrovsky, Broken Hip Emery, Biron and Mason

Are junkyard trash compared to Lundqvist.

I just think they need to continue taking the time to build this right. It will take time. They can continue to try and stay competative by getting stop-gaps like Streit, but the crew needs more ELITE talent on that back end.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Sep 27 @ 9:44 PM ET
Panotch on the twitter machine just said he's been told to NOT expect supplementary discipline for Rinaldo.

/so....3 games then?
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Sep 27 @ 9:45 PM ET
Panotch on the twitter machine just said he's been told to NOT expect supplementary discipline for Rinaldo.

/so....3 games then?

- johndewar



nah the replay looked harmless
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Sep 27 @ 9:47 PM ET
nah the replay looked harmless
- -davies-


Agreed. I thought it looked worse in real time than it was.

MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Sep 27 @ 9:47 PM ET
82 games of this. 82.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Sep 27 @ 9:48 PM ET
Regarding defense in particular, we saw pretty big consistency issues before the arrival of Pronger.

Since that time, what have been seen:
-Aging Timonen
-Broken down Meszaros
-Coburn who has NEVER been consistent
-Grossman who is solid but best suited to a secondary role
-trash 6th D, where at least O'Donnell brought stability

Now the only thing somewhat significant brought in since that time to try and improve the D core has been Luke Schenn, who has been a nice suprise. Other than Schenn we have Streit, which the jury is still out big time on.

More needs to be done, and they need more elite talent on that back end. Im not really suprised to be honest, at what we are seeing. While many of these media guys are full of poop, maybe its not so crazy that a few of them know what they are talking about when questioning the Flyers back end.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 27 @ 9:49 PM ET
82 games of this. 82.

- MBFlyerfan

we gotta stick together bro
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Sep 27 @ 9:49 PM ET
82 games of this. 82.

- MBFlyerfan


Sarcasm detector
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 27 @ 9:49 PM ET
hartnell
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 27 @ 9:52 PM ET
Regarding defense in particular, we saw pretty big consistency issues before the arrival of Pronger.

Since that time, what have been seen:
-Aging Timonen
-Broken down Meszaros
-Coburn who has NEVER been consistent
-Grossman who is solid but best suited to a secondary role
-trash 6th D, where at least O'Donnell brought stability

Now the only thing somewhat significant brought in since that time to try and improve the D core has been Luke Schenn, who has been a nice suprise. Other than Schenn we have Streit, which the jury is still out big time on.

More needs to be done, and they need more elite talent on that back end. Im not really suprised to be honest, at what we are seeing. While many of these media guys are full of poop, maybe its not so crazy that a few of them know what they are talking about when questioning the Flyers back end.

- flyer_nutter


If the forwards don;t help out on defense, it doesn'tt matter who you have back there.

That's why the Devils with Marek Zdlicky, Andy Greene and Peter Herold can get the the SCF in 2012, and why the Flyers get creamed by them.

The defense corps should be adequate. But if you don't have the forwards doing a good job backchekcing, it's going to look awful.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 27 @ 9:52 PM ET
hahaha this team blows 1-6
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Sep 27 @ 9:52 PM ET
Sarcasm detector
- flyer_nutter


Well, I didnt get the score right but I got the circumstances right. Sigh...

This is going to be a long year.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 27 @ 9:52 PM ET
If the forwards don;t help out on defense, it doesn'tt matter who you have back there.

That's why the Devils with Marek Zdlicky, Andy Greene and Peter Herold can get the the SCF in 2012, and why the Flyers get creamed by them.

The defense corps should be adequate. But if you don't have the forwards doing a good job backchekcing, it's going to look awful.

- Jsaquella

new players same issues
can the coach
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Sep 27 @ 9:55 PM ET
The pre-season record doesn't bother me. It's just pre-season.

If they were 5 - 1, it still wouldn't mean anything.

That said, if you don't think Laviolette deserves to be on the hot seat, I kinda don't know what you're watching.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Sep 27 @ 9:55 PM ET
If the forwards don;t help out on defense, it doesn'tt matter who you have back there.

That's why the Devils with Marek Zdlicky, Andy Greene and Peter Herold can get the the SCF in 2012, and why the Flyers get creamed by them.

The defense corps should be adequate. But if you don't have the forwards doing a good job backchekcing, it's going to look awful.

- Jsaquella


Definately.

Its a mix of a bunch of things imo. I have for a long time thought that while talented, they are kind of a group that has too much "stupid" in them. Weird thing to say I suppose.

I still say 2-3 years before you see this team get competative. Management just needs to be smart, and to be if there is an option to improve that back end with quality instead of quantity, you make it.
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