Raffl to the Phantoms.....guess laughton is getting at least the first 9 games
- nastyflyergirl

Might as well. If he shines, he can stick. If he looks pedestrian, send him back to junior and call Raffl (or someone else) up to replace him. Smartest move.

Raffl to ADK per the Flyers Twitter feed
- bradleyc4

So, does this mean that Laughton gets the nod, or could there be a player that is on PTO with another team that could get a 1yr contract?

So, does this mean that Laughton gets the nod, or could there be a player that is on PTO with another team that could get a 1yr contract?
- Coleman

That wouldn't be the worst thing, as far as I'm concerned -- to me, I think it's fairly obvious that 3LW is something that the Flyers can't be comfortable with.

And before anybody jumps down my throat, the reason the Flyers can't be comfortable with it is because they tried to bring Daniel Cleary in, what, 16 days ago.

So, does this mean that Laughton gets the nod, or could there be a player that is on PTO with another team that could get a 1yr contract?
- Coleman

Or Vanderbeek gets an NHL contract.

So, does this mean that Laughton gets the nod, or could there be a player that is on PTO with another team that could get a 1yr contract?
- Coleman

Still between Laughton and VandeVelde.

That wouldn't be the worst thing, as far as I'm concerned -- to me, I think it's fairly obvious that 3LW is something that the Flyers can't be comfortable with.

And before anybody jumps down my throat, the reason the Flyers can't be comfortable with it is because they tried to bring Daniel Cleary in, what, 16 days ago.
- AllInForFlyers

I'm confused. What's so bad about a Talbot/Couturier/Read 3rd line? To me, this battle is about the 4th line.

Might as well. If he shines, he can stick. If he looks pedestrian, send him back to junior and call Raffl (or someone else) up to replace him. Smartest move.
- bradleyc4

yeah no harm in giving him the 9 games. wonder if this means VandeVelde made the team and will get a contract or if he is being cut later. I liked Raffl better than him but what do I know. There should be some decent competition for the first callup between Raffl, Cousins, McGinn, etc. never a bad thing

Or Vanderbeek gets an NHL contract.
- jmatchett383

yeah no harm in giving him the 9 games. wonder if this means VandeVelde made the team and will get a contract or if he is being cut later. I liked Raffl better than him but what do I know. There should be some decent competition for the first callup between Raffl, Cousins, McGinn, etc. never a bad thing
- nastyflyergirl

I don't think VV will make the team. I think they'll keep Laughton up for now, and re-evaluate after or during the nine games.

Might as well. If he shines, he can stick. If he looks pedestrian, send him back to junior and call Raffl (or someone else) up to replace him. Smartest move.
- bradleyc4

Besides, this moves gets them back on track towards having 4 lines of natural centers

I'm confused. What's so bad about a Talbot/Couturier/Read 3rd line? To me, this battle is about the 4th line.
- bradleyc4

I'm with you, but apparently Talbot's slotted for the 4th line.

Too big and slow for the "new nhl".

So lets get some talent, so we can keep up!

Ohhh poop now we are too small, and dont have enough grit.

Coach is too hard on the young guns? Damn lets bring in Stevens!

Ohh wait he is too soft? Lets bring in Lava, and a more aggressive system.

(frank), is the core not what we thought when we gave them the keys to the city?

Lets trade them! Bryzgalov fiasco, and now we want to switch identity again and turn back into defense.

This is turning into a (frank)ing joke. The team plays just how the whole thing is run, with no consistency and direction.

I'm confused. What's so bad about a Talbot/Couturier/Read 3rd line? To me, this battle is about the 4th line.
- bradleyc4

I think the thing is that Maxime Talbot has never scored enough to be a third-liner, even though he brings other things to the table -- and those things are great. I'm not criticizing him as a player and saying he doesn't need to be here. He's certainly effective on the penalty kill and defensively, can skate and sticks his nose into the dirty areas.

But you can't count on offense from him.

That's not a crime or a curse, being a fourth-liner. Ian Laperriere played on the fourth line for the Flyers, and brought similar attributes. But that's how Pittsburgh played him and saw him, and I think the Flyers, when they reached out to Cleary, were acknowledging that.

Too big and slow for the "new nhl".

So lets get some talent, so we can keep up!

Ohhh poop now we are too small, and dont have enough grit.

Coach is too hard on the young guns? Damn lets bring in Stevens!

Ohh wait he is too soft? Lets bring in Lava, and a more aggressive system.

(frank), is the core not what we thought when we gave them the keys to the city?

Lets trade them! Bryzgalov fiasco, and now we want to switch identity again and turn back into defense.

This is turning into a (frank)ing joke. The team plays just how the whole thing is run, with no consistency and direction.
- flyer_nutter

You forgot about Lets win last years cup!

Too big and slow for the "new nhl".

So lets get some talent, so we can keep up!

Ohhh poop now we are too small, and dont have enough grit.

Coach is too hard on the young guns? Damn lets bring in Stevens!

Ohh wait he is too soft? Lets bring in Lava, and a more aggressive system.

(frank), is the core not what we thought when we gave them the keys to the city?

Lets trade them! Bryzgalov fiasco, and now we want to switch identity again and turn back into defense.

This is turning into a (frank)ing joke. The team plays just how the whole thing is run, with no consistency and direction.
- flyer_nutter

Is this a poem?

You forgot about Lets win last years cup!
- MBFlyerfan

Laughable isnt it.

Whats funnier, is that its essentially all true. Ive stopped being suprised as to how this team performs. Its damn right predictable.

I think the thing is that Maxime Talbot has never scored enough to be a third-liner, even though he brings other things to the table -- and those things are great. I'm not criticizing him as a player and saying he doesn't need to be here. He's certainly effective on the penalty kill and defensively, can skate and sticks his nose into the dirty areas.

But you can't count on offense from him.

That's not a crime or a curse, being a fourth-liner. Ian Laperriere played on the fourth line for the Flyers, and brought similar attributes. But that's how Pittsburgh played him and saw him, and I think the Flyers, when they reached out to Cleary, were acknowledging that.
- AllInForFlyers

I agree that Talbot is not the ideal third liner. But he's also better than your typical 4th liner.

When guys like VandeVelde and Raffl are your competition, Talbot on the 3rd line makes the most sense.

This is considering the fact that the Flyers want to keep Laughton at center.

I'm confused. What's so bad about a Talbot/Couturier/Read 3rd line? To me, this battle is about the 4th line.
- bradleyc4

size on wing?

size on wing?
- PhillaBully

Okay. But I'm not giving an inferior player more playing time just because he's bigger.

Okay. But I'm not giving an inferior player more playing time just because he's bigger.
- bradleyc4

I agree with that, but man...I don't know that the Flyers don't need a DIFFERENT player, one who isn't already here.

Laughable isnt it.

Whats funnier, is that its essentially all true. Ive stopped being suprised as to how this team performs. Its damn right predictable.
- flyer_nutter

I know its only preseason and all, but watching these games and seeing the exact same issues no matter who is in the lineup gives me pause. I don't think they are just going to magically flip a switch and start playing the right way.

I'm just worried that after one period of watching botched home run passes, odd man rushes, failure to sustain a fore check, no defensive presence in the neutral zone, and forwards not helping out defensively, I am going to throw a brick through my TV.

I cant afford a new TV right now, I just CANT!

I don't think VV will make the team. I think they'll keep Laughton up for now, and re-evaluate after or during the nine games.
- bradleyc4

Is Vandevelde the guy that played with Ron Hextall's kid?

Okay. But I'm not giving an inferior player more playing time just because he's bigger.
- bradleyc4

Whatever happened to Mcgin? is he injured?

Whatever happened to Mcgin? is he injured?
- PhillaBully

One of the first cuts

Raffl has ABSOLUTELY done enough to make the roster.