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hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Sep 27 @ 11:46 AM ET
Posting again:


I'm not even going out on a limb here saying that I guarantee Laviolette is gone by November. This current roster obviously can not execute his system. We saw that last year. The Devils and Rangers wrote the book on how to beat this team and I will not be surprised to see other teams adjusting their strategies as well.

It was maddening watching the game the other night knowing that every breakout was going to be some long stretch pass up or across the ice, and if not handled cleanly or missed altogether resulted in the play going the other way. Or a dump in up the side boards that the forwards could not get to because they were skating sideways at the opposing blue line waiting for their under siege dman to get it out of trouble. Then still sending too many forecheckers in even though the opposing team has possession before they even reach the faceoff circle.......chip out the other way...easy out....odd man rush.

I cant count how many times I saw forwards turn tail and zip out of the defensive zone as soon as the dman gained possession only to leave that dman with no viable outlet pass.

Like a broken frakking record.

I am going to lose my mind if I have have to go through what we went through last season again.

- MBFlyerfan


Perhaps then they need to get players that can play his system. Maybe Holmgren should be put to the fire, not Lavy. He's not the one signing these players. Just food for thought..........
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Sep 27 @ 11:46 AM ET
Dude..

Expand his stats from last season over an 82 game span... a full season.. AMAZING

82 games- 82 goals- 0 assits (he must not like other people getting his glory) +164 ((frank)ing two way monster btdubs) and 0 pims.

He will win the Rocket and Lady Byng.. (frank)ing aye.

- jak521


And this "top 6" forward cavalier? Dude has done nothing for the flyers the past two years. The list goes on
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Sep 27 @ 11:47 AM ET
fat (frank)
- jak521


More lbs than career points.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Sep 27 @ 11:47 AM ET
But no one in their right mind will be moaning for Jason "The Alphabetically First One" Akeson.
- MBFlyerfan


Neither am I -- but again, it's easier to try to misrepresent what was said -- because of a comment another poster made -- than deal with the reality at hand:

Right now, there are plenty of forwards who haven't done much this preseason. Maybe that'll change, maybe it's just preseason, maybe there's valid excuses.

Maybe there's actual issues with production that might not magically disappear come Wednesday night.

But again, keep focusing on what wasn't said. Come Thursday -- especially if things go sour Wednesday night -- we'll see what the topic of conversation is.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Sep 27 @ 11:48 AM ET
Neither am I -- but again, it's easier to try to misrepresent what was said -- because of a comment another poster made -- than deal with the reality at hand:

Right now, there are plenty of forwards who haven't done much this preseason. Maybe that'll change, maybe it's just preseason, maybe there's valid excuses.

Maybe there's actual issues with production that might not magically disappear come Wednesday night.

But again, keep focusing on what wasn't said. Come Thursday -- especially if things go sour Wednesday night -- we'll see what the topic of conversation is.

- AllInForFlyers


Fire Lavy will be the topic.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Sep 27 @ 11:49 AM ET
Neither am I -- but again, it's easier to try to misrepresent what was said -- because of a comment another poster made -- than deal with the reality at hand:

Right now, there are plenty of forwards who haven't done much this preseason. Maybe that'll change, maybe it's just preseason, maybe there's valid excuses.

Maybe there's actual issues with production that might not magically disappear come Wednesday night.

But again, keep focusing on what wasn't said. Come Thursday -- especially if things go sour Wednesday night -- we'll see what the topic of conversation is.

- AllInForFlyers


I think coaching is more of a concern. Either that or everyone on the team forgot how to score and we need Akeson to teach them
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Sep 27 @ 11:49 AM ET
Whatever, just call him tubby
- funmaster18

When he first came over I used to call Baby Schenn chubby... He got dumped on his head one game and his jersey flipped up to show off his nice little belly...
Then he showed up last season ripped, and I had to shut up...
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 27 @ 11:49 AM ET
And this "top 6" forward cavalier? Dude has done nothing for the flyers the past two years. The list goes on
- funmaster18


That's why we're replacing him and making Laughton the first line center.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Sep 27 @ 11:49 AM ET
The move to get Schneider was brilliant. They trade a higher pick, but in return you get a young (semi proven) good goalie who has very high potential to take over the reigns from Marty.

The other option is to wait and see who will still be available and worth the money come off season.

Not too hard of a decision.

- jak521


Not sure I would call trading a top-10 pick for a goaltender brilliant.

But, it does put them in a very good position to succeed short-term.
FlyersGrace
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Sep 27 @ 11:49 AM ET
More lbs than career points.
- funmaster18

Wait when did this convo switch to Buff?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Sep 27 @ 11:49 AM ET
Fire Lavy will be the topic.
- MBFlyerfan

ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Sep 27 @ 11:50 AM ET


LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!



LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!



LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!


funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Sep 27 @ 11:50 AM ET
When he first came over I used to call Baby Schenn chubby... He got dumped on his head one game and his jersey flipped up to show off his nice little belly...
Then he showed up last season ripped, and I had to shut up...

- FlyersGrace


I think Schenn is going to be a beast!
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Sep 27 @ 11:50 AM ET
Wait when did this convo switch to Buff?
- FlyersGrace


funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Sep 27 @ 11:51 AM ET
LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!



LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!



LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!

- ggunky


FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Sep 27 @ 11:51 AM ET
I think Schenn is going to be a beast!
- funmaster18

I certainly hope so.
Too bad I like Luke more!

I think they should compete for fan affection...
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 27 @ 11:52 AM ET
Not sure I would call trading a top-10 pick for a goaltender brilliant.

But, it does put them in a very good position to succeed short-term.

- bradleyc4


He'll never do anything in NJ until he sleeps with his sister-in-law and his kids refer to him as "Uncle Daddy."
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Sep 27 @ 11:52 AM ET
Not sure I would call trading a top-10 pick for a goaltender brilliant.

But, it does put them in a very good position to succeed short-term.

- bradleyc4

Trading a top 10 pick for a young very good starting goalie is a no brainer to me.. especially when your go to for the past two decades is about to retire.. Who knows what you end up getting with that pick... You are about 90% sure of what you are getting with Schneider.

If Schneider was our #1 would you trade him for that pick? Not unless you had another fantastic option in net.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Sep 27 @ 11:53 AM ET
I certainly hope so.
Too bad I like Luke more!

I think they should compete for fan affection...

- FlyersGrace


Oops misread and I meant l Schenn!
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Sep 27 @ 11:53 AM ET
The move to get Schneider was brilliant. They trade a higher pick, but in return you get a young (semi proven) good goalie who has very high potential to take over the reigns from Marty.

The other option is to wait and see who will still be available and worth the money come off season.

Not too hard of a decision.

- jak521


Well Lou knew at the time of the Draft Kovalchuk was leaving. Personally I would have taken Nichushkin at 9 then trade up in the 2nd to get Fucale or at worst Comrie or Jarry. Then I would see what I could do to get Miller, Hiller, Halak, Lundquist, etc... either at the TDL or in UFA. Heck they could even have signed Bryz for a year while they still have Marty.

Completely mismanaged IMO.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Sep 27 @ 11:53 AM ET
When he first came over I used to call Baby Schenn chubby... He got dumped on his head one game and his jersey flipped up to show off his nice little belly...
Then he showed up last season ripped, and I had to shut up...

- FlyersGrace



Gary Roberts has him eating nothing but quinoa, blueberries, kale and lentils.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Sep 27 @ 11:54 AM ET
Trading a top 10 pick for a young very good starting goalie is a no brainer to me.. especially when your go to for the past two decades is about to retire.. Who knows what you end up getting with that pick... You are about 90% sure of what you are getting with Schneider.

If Schneider was our #1 would you trade him for that pick? Not unless you had another fantastic option in net.

- jak521


If Schneider was an unproven prospect if lean towards foolish, but we've seen enough of him that if be Ok with that trade.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Sep 27 @ 11:54 AM ET
Too bad the Cup is awarded to the best team, and not the team that represents the most attractive destination... otherwise Philly and the Rangers would take turns winning it every year.

Honestly, I'd almost prefer it if UFA's didn't clamor to come to the Flyers... would take a lot of potential mistakes off the table for Homer & Co.

- Tomahawk


Your MJLing away from the topic and the point.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Sep 27 @ 11:55 AM ET
Gary Roberts has him eating nothing but quinoa, blueberries, kale and lentils.
- Tomahawk

Nice.
Beer. Missing a fundamental food group..
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 27 @ 11:56 AM ET
Well Lou knew at the time of the Draft Kovalchuk was leaving. Personally I would have taken Nichushkin at 9 then trade up in the 2nd to get Fucale or at worst Comrie or Jarry. Then I would see what I could do to get Miller, Hiller, Halak, Lundquist, etc... either at the TDL or in UFA. Heck they could even have signed Bryz for a year while they still have Marty.

Completely mismanaged IMO.

- youarewrong


When did Lou say Kovy told him he was leaving before the draft?
They had a chance to acquire a (somewhat) proven yet young goalie instead of hoping they'd be able to acquire one in the near future or taking a shot on an unproven goalie who's still at least a year away in the draft and took it. They decided not to gamble.
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