I'm not a big fan of ranger so far.
- HipHopisDead

and you never will be

he's not gonna be a huge star.. he's just a solid middle of the road d-man

he'll impress you some nights and look invisible the next

Clarkson = grossly overpaid. He'll be a whipping boy by March
- HipHopisDead

no he wont.. so long as he keeps up the physical play he'll remain a fan favorite

no he wont.. so long as he keeps up the physical play he'll remain a fan favorite
- Dozzer

Kulemin is more physical.

no he wont.. so long as he keeps up the physical play he'll remain a fan favorite
- Dozzer

Remain? I've gotta say that I admire and am impressed by his comments regarding his incident. BUT, its pre-season... give it some time.

if you were the oilers GM.. why wouldnt you wait to see who the leafs expose first?

they have to have their roster set by Monday

The oilers can just leave a roster spot open.. and wait for a centre to go through waivers... snatch them up for free.
- Dozzer

Oilers are near the bottom, but there are 6 teams ahead of them should they take that risk. Better that they trade for one, and make sure it's an offer that will land Colb...er I mean a center..

if you were the oilers GM.. why wouldnt you wait to see who the leafs expose first?

they have to have their roster set by Monday

The oilers can just leave a roster spot open.. and wait for a centre to go through waivers... snatch them up for free.
- Dozzer

Because after demotions, technically, the Leafs can ice their current roster. Its just not the most feasible lines.

FORWARDS
JVR / Tyler Bozak / Phil Kessel
Lupul / Kadri / Raymond
Colborne / Bolland / Kulemin
McLaren / McClement / Orr

DEFENSEMEN
Dion Phaneuf / Gunnarsson
Liles / Cody Franson
Paul ranger / Jake Gardiner
Fraser

GOALTENDERS
Jonathan Bernier
James Reimer

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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,266,667; BONUSES: $300,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $333,333




All of this is to say that McLaren is able to play.

Because after demotions, technically, the Leafs can ice their current roster. Its just not the most feasible lines.

FORWARDS
JVR / Tyler Bozak / Phil Kessel
Lupul / Kadri / Raymond
Colborne / Bolland / Kulemin
Frazer McLaren / Jay McClement / Colton Orr

DEFENSEMEN
Dion Phaneuf / Gunnarsson
Liles / Cody Franson
Paul ranger / Jake Gardiner

GOALTENDERS
Jonathan Bernier
James Reimer

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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,266,667; BONUSES: $300,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $333,333




All of this is to say that McLaren is able to play.
- Colin Dambrauskas

Fraser demoted?

white vs cole

huge hip check
and beats him up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTE_4RCeMBg

and then white rocks kovalchoke and drops the mits..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bhhf1OD-Zls

if we could get white for a million - id be ok with it.

THE WHITE KNIGHT
- big_dion

Hip on hip lol

Nice hit from behind without the puck on kovalchoke

D isn't bad but Monahan + the bottom six seem a little iffy. Plus Ramo has to come up big as well.

In fairness though, I haven't heard of three of the bottom six and I've only ever seen two of the six play.
- markmark

Baertschi - Backlund – D Jones
Bouma - Galiardi – Jackman/McGrattan

David Jones recently picked up from COL...good 3rd line checker.
Lance Bouma 4th line grinder, defensively responsible...nothing special
TJ Galiardi recently picked up from COL...trying him out at center but decent checking forward with some speed
Jackman/MacGrattan - enforcers

Baertschi - Backlund – D Jones
Bouma - Galiardi – Jackman/McGrattan

David Jones recently picked up from COL...good 3rd line checker.
Lance Bouma 4th line grinder, defensively responsible...nothing special
TJ Galiardi recently picked up from COL...trying him out at center but decent checking forward with some speed
Jackman/MacGrattan - enforcers
- Colin Dambrauskas

Sucks. All of them.

Baertschi - Backlund – D Jones
Bouma - Galiardi – Jackman/McGrattan

David Jones recently picked up from COL...good 3rd line checker.
Lance Bouma 4th line grinder, defensively responsible...nothing special
TJ Galiardi recently picked up from COL...trying him out at center but decent checking forward with some speed
Jackman/MacGrattan - enforcers
- Colin Dambrauskas

Oh interesting. The site I checked for the lineups had Ben Street as 3rd line RW?

Edit: I see Cammy is on the IR for that site as well so that makes them a bit deeper on the wing.

Fraser demoted?
- markmark

no I took him and Clarkson out of the lineup due to injury and suspension. It just shows that they can ice a full team right now with their cap space, provided McLaren can play. He cant be put on LTIR, btw.

Oh interesting. The site I checked for the lineups had Ben Street as 3rd line RW?

Edit: I see Cammy is on the IR for that site as well so that makes them a bit deeper on the wing.
- markmark

Street will be demoted...hes been no good imo so far during preseason.

Baertschi - Backlund – D Jones
Bouma - Galiardi – Jackman/McGrattan

David Jones recently picked up from COL...good 3rd line checker.
Lance Bouma 4th line grinder, defensively responsible...nothing special
TJ Galiardi recently picked up from COL...trying him out at center but decent checking forward with some speed
Jackman/MacGrattan - enforcers
- Colin Dambrauskas

Golly. Leafs need to get Calgary's 1st round pick somehow.

and you never will be

he's not gonna be a huge star.. he's just a solid middle of the road d-man

he'll impress you some nights and look invisible the next
- Dozzer

If they don't mention his name during the game I take that as a positive.

Golly. Leafs need to get Calgary's 1st round pick somehow.
- Woderwick

Well thats bottom 6....top 6 looks like this, which isnt too bad imo if Monahan keeps playing the way he has been .

Cammalleri - Stajan - Stempniak
Glencross - Monahan - Hudler

If they don't mention his name during the game I take that as a positive.
- MapleLeafs90

yup, other than nice blocked shot or shoots it in

and you never will be

he's not gonna be a huge star.. he's just a solid middle of the road d-man

he'll impress you some nights and look invisible the next
- Dozzer

Some one said it well recently. They said that defenseman are rarely the "heroes" in games so the fact that a player can just be technically sound and defensively safe doesnt get the same praise as a guy who can make some nice dangles. (IE: Gunnarsson)

no I took him and Clarkson out of the lineup due to injury and suspension. It just shows that they can ice a full team right now with their cap space, provided McLaren can play. He cant be put on LTIR, btw.
- Colin Dambrauskas

Fraser is hurt? when did that happen?

completely missed that

yup, other than nice blocked shot or shoots it in
- Dozzer

Exactlty

Well thats bottom 6....top 6 looks like this, which isnt too bad imo if Monahan keeps playing the way he has been .

Cammalleri - Stajan - Stempniak
Glencross - Monahan - Hudler
- Colin Dambrauskas

What will it take to get that 1st round pick?

If they don't mention his name during the game I take that as a positive.
- MapleLeafs90

People were saying that his skating was one of his biggest assets and I dont see it personally...I see a stay at home guy who can move the puck without having to skate too much and plays the body just enough. Nothing fancy or special...has a decent point shot...but I dont see skating to be his strongest asset.

Fraser is hurt? when did that happen?

completely missed that
- Dozzer

nope...I keep mixing them up!! rrrgh

Frazer McLaren and Mark Fraser....

no he wont.. so long as he keeps up the physical play he'll remain a fan favorite
- Dozzer

guys who make over $5 million need to do more than play physical to be a fan favourite, especially in places like Toronto and Montreal.

What will it take to get that 1st round pick?
- Woderwick

well given that I find it hard to predict them any higher than bottom five...quite a bit