Crimsoninja
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Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy. Joined: 07.06.2007
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Corsi is being rammed down everyone's throat, see the article in question. It's the new stat in vogue now dispute it's obvious flaws. A few people are pushing it hard and the braindead legions are following. They don't see the flaws in it. - burn
Corsi and all advanced stats just add to the complete picture and have to be put into the correct context
there are inherent flaws in every stat category, traditional as well as advanced. And all these flaws can potentialy skew things. but it doesnt mean that Corsi and similar stats should be completely ignored or dismissed. |
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Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy. Joined: 07.06.2007
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Where is 32% from? - burn
the zone time |
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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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that was an obviously sarcastic comment by me.
but its tough to argue with the points he makes about being drastically outshot and maintaining that abnormally high shooting % like they did last *half season - Crimsoninja
Quite easy to argue agianst flawed stats. |
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Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy. Joined: 07.06.2007
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Quite easy to argue agianst flawed stats. - burn
name a stat that doesnt have some sort of flaw |
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daeth
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: 43 points, ON Joined: 09.15.2005
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Where is 32% from? - burn
fenwick isn't it, so based on shots? |
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Corsi and all advanced stats just add to the complete picture and have to be put into the correct context
there are inherent flaws in every stat category, traditional as well as advanced. And all these flaws can potentialy skew things. but it doesnt mean that Corsi and similar stats should be completely ignored or dismissed. - Crimsoninja
If the stats are flawed than they pretty much useless... |
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Yeti1181
Referee Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: I'm AWESOME, AB Joined: 07.27.2012
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name a stat that doesnt have some sort of flaw - Crimsoninja
The Yeti stat! Basically what I say is alright. |
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The Yeti stat! Basically what I say is alright. - Yeti1181
sometimes... every now and than... |
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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Retired, ON Joined: 07.24.2011
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So you don't want two quality d men that have above average offensive skill? - Yeti1181
I want one. One has to leave. I DO believe Dion is replaceable, but i would obviously like to keep him around for less $ and TOI. The youngsters we have are VERY good offensively and i believe less of a liability due to more speed and smarter hockey sense. Sure they take more chances and aren't s strong (yet), but they have more potential than both Franny and Pha9. I would love to see Liles be moved also to make room for Rielly too, but i doubt that will materialize. |
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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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that was an obviously sarcastic comment by me.
but its tough to argue with the points he makes about being drastically outshot and maintaining that abnormally high shooting % like they did last *half season - Crimsoninja
But why isn't he being objective and showing other stats? He makes it sound like shooting % and possession mean everything.
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Yeti1181
Referee Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: I'm AWESOME, AB Joined: 07.27.2012
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having an article as a slideshow should've been the giveaway
so this... - daeth
I used to read BR quite a bit about 2 years ago I enjoyed it for about six months and then they started changing the main writers and it just went to poop after, it got so bad I won't even go to the site anymore. |
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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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Corsi and all advanced stats just add to the complete picture and have to be put into the correct context
there are inherent flaws in every stat category, traditional as well as advanced. And all these flaws can potentialy skew things. but it doesnt mean that Corsi and similar stats should be completely ignored or dismissed. - Crimsoninja
#1 this article doesn't take all into account, only corsi and that crap.
#2 corsi is extremely flawed and has no relevance for me. It's too flawed to concidering even looking at. Some stats have their flaws, yes but corsi's foundation. Is flawed. It it build on fundamentally flawed platform. |
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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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the zone time - Crimsoninja
It's based off shots. |
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weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 07.09.2006
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Hello fellow lovers of Fruitcakenipple. |
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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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People will use whatever stats can justify what they want to see.
I am sticking to my guns that goaltending stats are being ridiculously underrated when judging the Leafs. That was a bigger reason for the playoffs. It was not puck possession. |
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BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Captain Morgan Rielly Joined: 05.07.2013
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Hello fellow lovers of Fruitcakenipple. - weirdoh
2-timing dirtbag.. |
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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Retired, ON Joined: 07.24.2011
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I hope Nonis can fit everyone under the cap nest summer. Kessel for sure will get $7 mill per, Phanuef at least get $6-6.5 mill per, Franson mabie $5 mill per, other UFA's are Kulemin, McClement, Raymond, Bolland, Fraser, Gardner, Orr, McLaren & Reimer. That is quite a list. - GCHonda
Bye Kuli, Fraser, Orr, Raymond, (possibly Reimer)
Better get some skilled young forwards when we trade Dion. |
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Yeti1181
Referee Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: I'm AWESOME, AB Joined: 07.27.2012
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I want one. One has to leave. I DO believe Dion is replaceable, but i would obviously like to keep him around for less $ and TOI. The youngsters we have are VERY good offensively and i believe less of a liability due to more speed and smarter hockey sense. Sure they take more chances and aren't s strong (yet), but they have more potential than both Franny and Pha9. I would love to see Liles be moved also to make room for Rielly too, but i doubt that will materialize. - Arctic_AARDVARK
The problem is we don't have anyone close to being as good of a whole package as Phaneuf, not even close. Everybody likes to poop on him but he is a good player who deserves some credit for what he has helped the team achieve as the Captain of the club. Nonis and Phaneuf have both stated the desire for him to be with the leafs and I doubt he goes anywhere. |
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Hello fellow lovers of Fruitcakenipple. - weirdoh
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2-timing dirtbag.. - BetterCallSaul
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Yeti1181
Referee Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: I'm AWESOME, AB Joined: 07.27.2012
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Hello fellow lovers of Fruitcakenipple. - weirdoh
Who left the back door open? |
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Yeti1181
Referee Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: I'm AWESOME, AB Joined: 07.27.2012
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- Fruitcakenipple
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GCHonda
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: MABIE NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! , ON Joined: 07.03.2010
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So do i.... - Fruitcakenipple
Hey Master Zinger. Let's see the Leafs D see if we have room for the kid.
Phaneuf/Gunnarson
Fraser/Franson
Gardiner/Ranger
7th d man? Liles or Brennan IF they not to keep Reilly. If they indeed keep Reilly than Brennan is AHL bound & Liles will be demoted or traded for a bag of used hockey pucks.
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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Retired, ON Joined: 07.24.2011
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People will use whatever stats can justify what they want to see.
I am sticking to my guns that goaltending stats are being ridiculously underrated when judging the Leafs. That was a bigger reason for the playoffs. It was not puck possession. - RogerRoeper
Some teams rely on their goaltending more than others. Therefor the stats matter more for some goalies than others. I dont know why people are arguing about this |
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weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 07.09.2006
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2-timing dirtbag.. - BetterCallSaul
Oh stop it. There's plenty to go around. |
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