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Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 26 @ 7:31 PM ET
Corsi is being rammed down everyone's throat, see the article in question. It's the new stat in vogue now dispute it's obvious flaws. A few people are pushing it hard and the braindead legions are following. They don't see the flaws in it.
- burn

Corsi and all advanced stats just add to the complete picture and have to be put into the correct context


there are inherent flaws in every stat category, traditional as well as advanced. And all these flaws can potentialy skew things. but it doesnt mean that Corsi and similar stats should be completely ignored or dismissed.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 26 @ 7:32 PM ET
Where is 32% from?
- burn

the zone time
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 26 @ 7:32 PM ET
that was an obviously sarcastic comment by me.

but its tough to argue with the points he makes about being drastically outshot and maintaining that abnormally high shooting % like they did last *half season

- Crimsoninja



Quite easy to argue agianst flawed stats.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 26 @ 7:33 PM ET
Quite easy to argue agianst flawed stats.
- burn

name a stat that doesnt have some sort of flaw
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Sep 26 @ 7:33 PM ET
Where is 32% from?
- burn

fenwick isn't it, so based on shots?
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Sep 26 @ 7:34 PM ET
Corsi and all advanced stats just add to the complete picture and have to be put into the correct context


there are inherent flaws in every stat category, traditional as well as advanced. And all these flaws can potentialy skew things. but it doesnt mean that Corsi and similar stats should be completely ignored or dismissed.

- Crimsoninja



If the stats are flawed than they pretty much useless...
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Sep 26 @ 7:34 PM ET
name a stat that doesnt have some sort of flaw
- Crimsoninja

The Yeti stat! Basically what I say is alright.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Sep 26 @ 7:35 PM ET
The Yeti stat! Basically what I say is alright.
- Yeti1181



sometimes... every now and than...
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Sep 26 @ 7:35 PM ET
So you don't want two quality d men that have above average offensive skill?
- Yeti1181

I want one. One has to leave. I DO believe Dion is replaceable, but i would obviously like to keep him around for less $ and TOI. The youngsters we have are VERY good offensively and i believe less of a liability due to more speed and smarter hockey sense. Sure they take more chances and aren't s strong (yet), but they have more potential than both Franny and Pha9. I would love to see Liles be moved also to make room for Rielly too, but i doubt that will materialize.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Sep 26 @ 7:36 PM ET
that was an obviously sarcastic comment by me.

but its tough to argue with the points he makes about being drastically outshot and maintaining that abnormally high shooting % like they did last *half season

- Crimsoninja


But why isn't he being objective and showing other stats? He makes it sound like shooting % and possession mean everything.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Sep 26 @ 7:36 PM ET
having an article as a slideshow should've been the giveaway

so this...

- daeth

I used to read BR quite a bit about 2 years ago I enjoyed it for about six months and then they started changing the main writers and it just went to poop after, it got so bad I won't even go to the site anymore.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 26 @ 7:36 PM ET
Corsi and all advanced stats just add to the complete picture and have to be put into the correct context


there are inherent flaws in every stat category, traditional as well as advanced. And all these flaws can potentialy skew things. but it doesnt mean that Corsi and similar stats should be completely ignored or dismissed.

- Crimsoninja




#1 this article doesn't take all into account, only corsi and that crap.

#2 corsi is extremely flawed and has no relevance for me. It's too flawed to concidering even looking at. Some stats have their flaws, yes but corsi's foundation. Is flawed. It it build on fundamentally flawed platform.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 26 @ 7:37 PM ET
the zone time
- Crimsoninja



It's based off shots.
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Sep 26 @ 7:38 PM ET
Hello fellow lovers of Fruitcakenipple.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Sep 26 @ 7:38 PM ET
People will use whatever stats can justify what they want to see.

I am sticking to my guns that goaltending stats are being ridiculously underrated when judging the Leafs. That was a bigger reason for the playoffs. It was not puck possession.
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Sep 26 @ 7:38 PM ET
Hello fellow lovers of Fruitcakenipple.
- weirdoh

2-timing dirtbag..
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Sep 26 @ 7:38 PM ET
I hope Nonis can fit everyone under the cap nest summer. Kessel for sure will get $7 mill per, Phanuef at least get $6-6.5 mill per, Franson mabie $5 mill per, other UFA's are Kulemin, McClement, Raymond, Bolland, Fraser, Gardner, Orr, McLaren & Reimer. That is quite a list.
- GCHonda

Bye Kuli, Fraser, Orr, Raymond, (possibly Reimer)

Better get some skilled young forwards when we trade Dion.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Sep 26 @ 7:39 PM ET
I want one. One has to leave. I DO believe Dion is replaceable, but i would obviously like to keep him around for less $ and TOI. The youngsters we have are VERY good offensively and i believe less of a liability due to more speed and smarter hockey sense. Sure they take more chances and aren't s strong (yet), but they have more potential than both Franny and Pha9. I would love to see Liles be moved also to make room for Rielly too, but i doubt that will materialize.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

The problem is we don't have anyone close to being as good of a whole package as Phaneuf, not even close. Everybody likes to poop on him but he is a good player who deserves some credit for what he has helped the team achieve as the Captain of the club. Nonis and Phaneuf have both stated the desire for him to be with the leafs and I doubt he goes anywhere.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Sep 26 @ 7:39 PM ET
Hello fellow lovers of Fruitcakenipple.
- weirdoh


Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Sep 26 @ 7:39 PM ET
2-timing dirtbag..
- BetterCallSaul


Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Sep 26 @ 7:40 PM ET
Hello fellow lovers of Fruitcakenipple.
- weirdoh

Who left the back door open?
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Sep 26 @ 7:40 PM ET

- Fruitcakenipple

GCHonda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MABIE NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! , ON
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 26 @ 7:40 PM ET
So do i....
- Fruitcakenipple



Hey Master Zinger. Let's see the Leafs D see if we have room for the kid.

Phaneuf/Gunnarson
Fraser/Franson
Gardiner/Ranger

7th d man? Liles or Brennan IF they not to keep Reilly. If they indeed keep Reilly than Brennan is AHL bound & Liles will be demoted or traded for a bag of used hockey pucks.

Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Sep 26 @ 7:40 PM ET
People will use whatever stats can justify what they want to see.

I am sticking to my guns that goaltending stats are being ridiculously underrated when judging the Leafs. That was a bigger reason for the playoffs. It was not puck possession.

- RogerRoeper

Some teams rely on their goaltending more than others. Therefor the stats matter more for some goalies than others. I dont know why people are arguing about this
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Sep 26 @ 7:41 PM ET
2-timing dirtbag..
- BetterCallSaul




Oh stop it. There's plenty to go around.
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