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GCHonda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MABIE NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! , ON
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 26 @ 7:16 PM ET
I'm glad Franson is back. I'm just surprised that Nonis caved so soon on the term issue. That REALLY puts Nonis in a tight squeeze next summer. He has 5 d men now to sign including Phanuef. Plus he has Kessel to re-sign for like $7 mill per. We know Phanuef will at least ask for what he is earning now, $6.5 mill per. If Franson has another good season, he may command $5 mill per. Would have made a HUGE difference if Franson was given a 2 year deal. Could have signed Phanuef in the summer of 2014 & Franson in the following summer. So now good luck next summer Nonis.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 26 @ 7:16 PM ET
Massively outshot, just look at the comparisons. Percentage wise, there is a separation of 5 shots-per-game-let-up from Toronto (@27th) to the New York Isles (@10th)... To make such a drastic conclusion as he made is ridiculous.
- A_Tree




Agreed. Not to mention that team that are leading take less shots and the leafs were leading more than they were trailing.

It's a flawed stat.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 26 @ 7:16 PM ET
Just becuase they didn't shoot the puck doesn't mean they didn't have posession. Fact.

Giving up shots doesn't mean you were dominated.

The article says that (because of shot totals) the leafs were out processed by what 30%? That is false, just from watching the games.

- burn

the article does not say it was because of total shots

he was making two separate points there


Getting massively outshot and playing in their own zone 32% more often than in the opposing zone are not recipes for consistent success.
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Sep 26 @ 7:17 PM ET
I'm glad Franson is back. I'm just surprised that Nonis caved so soon on the term issue. That REALLY puts Nonis in a tight squeeze next summer. He has 5 d men now to sign including Phanuef. Plus he has Kessel to re-sign for like $7 mill per. We know Phanuef will at least ask for what he is earning now, $6.5 mill per. If Franson has another good season, he may command $5 mill per. Would have made a HUGE difference if Franson was given a 2 year deal. Could have signed Phanuef in the summer of 2014 & Franson in the following summer. So now good luck next summer Nonis.
- GCHonda


Dion may be playing his last season in Toronto. *Hissy fit alert*
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Sep 26 @ 7:18 PM ET
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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Sep 26 @ 7:19 PM ET
Dion may be playing his last season in Toronto. *Hissy fit alert*
- fifty__missions

Good, trade the bum.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Sep 26 @ 7:21 PM ET
Agreed. Not to mention that team that are leading take less shots and the leafs were leading more than they were trailing.

It's a flawed stat.

- burn

There are tons of flawed stats in hockey. SOG seems to be the one paid most attention to.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Sep 26 @ 7:21 PM ET
I'm glad Franson is back. I'm just surprised that Nonis caved so soon on the term issue. That REALLY puts Nonis in a tight squeeze next summer. He has 5 d men now to sign including Phanuef. Plus he has Kessel to re-sign for like $7 mill per. We know Phanuef will at least ask for what he is earning now, $6.5 mill per. If Franson has another good season, he may command $5 mill per. Would have made a HUGE difference if Franson was given a 2 year deal. Could have signed Phanuef in the summer of 2014 & Franson in the following summer. So now good luck next summer Nonis.
- GCHonda


The cap is going up and the Leafs have Armstrong/Tucker coming off the books.

It's hard to put a negative spin on this. 2 million is a steal. And Franson has to have a big year again to get that huge raise.

GCHonda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MABIE NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! , ON
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 26 @ 7:21 PM ET
but still ray emery
- daeth


Toscala, Raycroft or the Monster could probably be 17-1 with Chicago. Now b4 anyone freaks out, yes Emery is 100x better than those stiffs just saying don't expect those kinda numbers with an average d group in front of him in Philly.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 26 @ 7:23 PM ET
the article does not say it was because of total shots

he was making two separate points there


Getting massively outshot and playing in their own zone 32% more often than in the opposing zone are not recipes for consistent success.

- Crimsoninja



And where did you think they got 32%? It's asked off the shots.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Sep 26 @ 7:24 PM ET
Another thing never mentioned, the Leafs actually had a very high shooting % the season prior when they finish bottom 5 in the NHl.

But their goaltending crapped the bed. Hence the bad results. In the "Only Going to Count Advanced Stats" groupies, goaltending is not important stat to judge the Leafs.

Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Sep 26 @ 7:25 PM ET
Dion may be playing his last season in Toronto. *Hissy fit alert*
- fifty__missions

They can sign him at any time through the year. I think he ll take a long term with more up front descending to bring the cap down to around 6 or slightly under.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Sep 26 @ 7:25 PM ET
seems pretty bang-on if you ask me
- Crimsoninja


If by "Bang-On" you mean ignore goaltending and PK stats, then sure.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Sep 26 @ 7:26 PM ET
Toscala, Raycroft or the Monster could probably be 17-1 with Chicago. Now b4 anyone freaks out, yes Emery is 100x better than those stiffs just saying don't expect those kinda numbers with an average d group in front of him in Philly.
- GCHonda

lets just say nobody would say "i can't believe nobody signed him!" if he ended up having to go over to europe
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Sep 26 @ 7:27 PM ET
The cap is going up and the Leafs have Armstrong/Tucker coming off the books.

It's hard to put a negative spin on this. 2 million is a steal. And Franson has to have a big year again to get that huge raise.

- RogerRoeper

I say we pair Franson with Gards or Dion and let him rack up the points. Then trade him a month before the deadline at his max value. He will demand an tonne and i am looking forward more to watching Gards Rielly Percy MacWilliam Finn etc develop. The only way i am on board with signing Franson long term is if we trade Phaneuf.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 26 @ 7:27 PM ET
And where did you think they got 32%? It's asked off the shots.
- burn

what makes you say that?
scotch_tape
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: he's coming
Joined: 07.26.2012

Sep 26 @ 7:27 PM ET
The article is hilariously flawed....rob vollman is a sens fan for what it's worth.
- burn


It lost credibility for me with New Jersey
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Sep 26 @ 7:28 PM ET
I say we pair Franson with Gards or Dion and let him rack up the points. Then trade him a month before the deadline at his max value. He will demand an tonne and i am looking forward more to watching Gards Rielly Percy MacWilliam Finn etc develop. The only way i am on board with signing Franson long term is if we trade Phaneuf.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

So you don't want two quality d men that have above average offensive skill?
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 26 @ 7:28 PM ET
If by "Bang-On" you mean ignore goaltending and PK stats, then sure.
- RogerRoeper

that was an obviously sarcastic comment by me.

but its tough to argue with the points he makes about being drastically outshot and maintaining that abnormally high shooting % like they did last *half season
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 26 @ 7:28 PM ET
There are tons of flawed stats in hockey. SOG seems to be the one paid most attention to.
- Arctic_AARDVARK



Corsi is being rammed down everyone's throat, see the article in question. It's the new stat in vogue now dispute it's obvious flaws. A few people are pushing it hard and the braindead legions are following. They don't see the flaws in it.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Sep 26 @ 7:29 PM ET
Mackenzie thinks the leafs will keep Rielly and liles is gone.
- burn



So do i....
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Sep 26 @ 7:29 PM ET
It lost credibility for me with New Jersey
- scotch_tape

It lost credibility when I had to go to bleacher report to read it.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Sep 26 @ 7:29 PM ET
It lost credibility for me with New Jersey
- scotch_tape

having an article as a slideshow should've been the giveaway

so this...

It lost credibility when I had to go to bleacher report to read it.
- Yeti1181

burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 26 @ 7:30 PM ET
what makes you say that?
- Crimsoninja



Where is 32% from?
GCHonda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MABIE NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! , ON
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 26 @ 7:31 PM ET
The cap is going up and the Leafs have Armstrong/Tucker coming off the books.

It's hard to put a negative spin on this. 2 million is a steal. And Franson has to have a big year again to get that huge raise.

- RogerRoeper



I hope Nonis can fit everyone under the cap nest summer. Kessel for sure will get $7 mill per, Phanuef at least get $6-6.5 mill per, Franson mabie $5 mill per, other UFA's are Kulemin, McClement, Raymond, Bolland, Fraser, Gardner, Orr, McLaren & Reimer. That is quite a list.
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