I don't know who posted it, nor where i can even find it

But Gardiner has one of the lowest GA/TOI and Franson has the highest.

Franson is a plus player cuz he owned on the PP, which i will fully acknowledge
- UsernameUnknown

Glucky maybe?

Franson averaged 23min per game in the playoffs. I know its a small sample size but that does show that he can play more minutes against better players.
- radio183

So did Gardiner, actually only Phaneuf played more.

I don't know who posted it, nor where i can even find it

But Gardiner has one of the lowest GA/TOI and Franson has the highest.

Franson is a plus player cuz he owned on the PP, which i will fully acknowledge
- UsernameUnknown

What?

Gardiner has barely been played...spotty..and you don't get a plus on the PP

I don't get how you think Gardiner should be there and not Franson????

Why? He wasn't ahead of him last year.

Franson looks like Lidstrom when it comes to D compared to Gardiner.

I don't think you watch leaf games, you're in here (frank)ing with us
I played hockey my whole life, as I am sure a lot of us in here have....Gardiner is a defensive liability at this point in his career..sure he can make things happen, but when hemmed in his own end...he's a light weight FOR SURE.
- Garnie

I'm pretty sure he was. When Gards was here, was he not on 2nd pairing?
Fra-Fra was the 3rd pairing ALL year.

I don't really understand the point in questioning my hockey intelligence. I have also played hockey my whole life. I know the game, just like you. It's called perspective. Gardiner doesn't look good in his own zone, as he's not perfect. But for some reason, I disagree with your opinion that Franson is. I suppose I'm trolling then.

The Leafs gave up more shots than all but 3 teams last year.

I don't think Dion's making as great a Defensive impact as we'd like to think.

Also, the goaltending should be a lot more reliable this year, so there's no reason to worry about our goals against.

as long as our special teams hold up and we're healthy we should be ok
- AngryWhiteMale

fixed

Pretty good predictions.
http://www.thehockeynews....s-in-each-conference.html

Leafs predicted to finish 6th
"6. Toronto. Maple Leafs brass took the ample cap space they had this off-season and used virtually all of it to get tougher and deeper in goal. As hockey’s burgeoning advanced statistics community frequently points out, there’s a fair chance last season could have been an anomaly and a regression to the mean is imminent for the Buds this year. But they do deserve credit for Toronto’s fifth-place finish in the Eastern Conference in 2012-13; and I feel like the arrival of Jonathan Bernier is good for both he and James Reimer. Their blueline will be better with Paul Ranger around, but the guy I like to really wow people is James van Riemsdyk. Toronto has more than enough options on offense, but it’s how their defense holds up that will determine if the Leafs make the playoffs two years in a row for the first time in a decade."
- IrishRage

Winnipeg is the worst team in the NHL with the worst coach.

Start season start so OEL can win the Norris.
- AdamFrench

Finally moved an HD tv and box into the man cave with beer fridge for the season...and now that its around the corner and Im ready to enjoy the cave, my dog pissed all over the side of the couch and portion of the seat. Indoor dog now going to be an outdoor dog.

Can't wait to see JVR break out offensively this season, 30+ goals for sure, thank you Burke.

So did Gardiner, actually only Phaneuf played more.
- GardinerExpress

Yup! Carlyle had quite a bit of faith in the two of them during the playoffs, I think they'll both take big steps this year.

he is not a flames fan, he is a leafs fan. Highely unlikely Reimer gets dealt to the flames, because surely we would be looking for at least a Bernier kinda return.
Just for a laugh i'd guess it would have to be

Backlund, Berra and a 2nd for Reimer
- GardinerExpress

I also kind of, umm, write Leafs blogs for the site.

What?

Gardiner has barely been played...spotty..and you don't get a plus on the PP
- Garnie

Right right. Sorry. That one was my bad. My brains going too fast

And Gardiner played enough to get a sense of his defensive stats.

I'd want that 1st overall pick one can dream.
- ThePresident

the 2014 draft doesnt have a consensus #1 pick...also said be be a bit weaker overall. Wait until 2015 and put all your eggs in the tank basket

I think a few guys here (including Dozzer if I can remember?) suggest Gardiner becomes an asset to trade away once Rielly makes it. How many PMD's can you have and one of them is fairly one dimensional at this point in his career.
- Woderwick

I would like 7 or 8 of them. I would also like them to be able to hit the net, when they shoot. Block shots when its called upon. Lay out a large hit once and a while.. Oh, and clear the front of our net as well..

Finally moved an HD tv and box into the man cave with beer fridge for the season...and now that its around the corner and Im ready to enjoy the cave, my dog pissed all over the side of the couch and portion of the seat. Indoor dog now going to be an outdoor dog.
- Colin Dambrauskas

Under ground dog...

I can't see the sens getting 3rd. I know they had injuries and all that but Anderson played way outta his league last year (even though he looked pretty ordinary against us)

Also I think any team that has Ovechkin is gonna make the playoffs
- GardinerExpress

Sens look good..great D...Methot/Karlsson Wiercoch Phillips still good stay at home...great 1st line...Spezza/Michalek/Ryan, the fill ins from last year should be better...I think they could be very scary...Anderson is lights out...even if he lets a few stinkers in this year...IMHO ( (frank) I hate them )

Start season start so OEL can win the Norris.
- AdamFrench

Go back to Russia

Glucky maybe?
- Woderwick

Not a fan of advanced stats.

I also kind of, umm, write Leafs blogs for the site.
- Colin Dambrauskas

Hmm, I always thought you followed the Flames

Finally moved an HD tv and box into the man cave with beer fridge for the season...and now that its around the corner and Im ready to enjoy the cave, my dog pissed all over the side of the couch and portion of the seat. Indoor dog now going to be an outdoor dog.
- Colin Dambrauskas

Dog lol...invest in a turtle. She'll treat you better.

Winnipeg is the worst team in the NHL with the worst coach.
- AdamFrench

Flames summed up as per HockeyNews: Cover your eyes.


GREAT ...

Go back to Russia
- AngryWhiteMale

Done...

If you don't see that Franson has always been good offensively, you must not know that he has in fact played hockey before last season. Take a look at his stats buddy.
- ThePresident

I knew he's played hockey before last season. But not very well. Sure, not bad, i suppose, but one good half season doesn't warrant the godly status he has in here.

the 2014 draft doesnt have a consensus #1 pick...also said be be a bit weaker overall. Wait until 2015 and put all your eggs in the tank basket
- senstroll

Regardless, the Flames pick would be highly welcomed for Reimer.

Hmm, I always thought you followed the Flames
- ThePresident

Well I do...I blog for and follow both the Flames and Leafs.

I would like 7 or 8 of them. I would also like them to be able to hit the net, when they shoot. Block shots when its called upon. Lay out a large hit once and a while.. Oh, and clear the front of our net as well..
- bixll

PMD's don't clear/don't block shots, that's why we gotz the meatheads like Fraser for...the guys who will block shots with their meatheadzzzzzzzz