Feeling Glucky?
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Location: Tanktown, ON Joined: 10.08.2008
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Ok...guys....the Leafs have 333k currently with this line up.
Kessel Bozak JVR
Lupul Kadri Raymond
Kulemin Bolland Colborne
Orr McLement McLaren*
Phaneuf Gunnar
Franson Ranger
Gardiner Fraser
Liles
*Injured
So with that being said, they need to find someone to play on the 4th line to replace McLaren with just over $300k in cap space. They do not have enough money to insert anyone, really. If any other injuries come about, even more problems. - Colin Dambrauskas
While I like Liles, and would ideally want to keep him on roster... he won't be by season's start.
Either trade or waivers, he's gone... Holzer probably loses his spot to Brennan, and the Leafs are fine for cap, carrying 3 extra players. |
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The Law
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Joined: 01.29.2008
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Ok...guys....the Leafs have 333k currently with this line up.
Kessel Bozak JVR
Lupul Kadri Raymond
Kulemin Bolland Colborne
Orr McLement McLaren*
Phaneuf Gunnar
Franson Ranger
Gardiner Fraser
Liles
*Injured
So with that being said, they need to find someone to play on the 4th line to replace McLaren with just over $300k in cap space. They do not have enough money to insert anyone, really. If any other injuries come about, even more problems. - Colin Dambrauskas
Cap Geek says they've got -1 milly now. Remove Smith (550), Liles (925), and Holzer (787) from that equation like you have and the Leafs would have about 1.25 million.
They get some cap relief for injuries so McLaren's fill in won't hurt their cap situation. They'll likely need to carry an extra fwd and a 7th dman. 1.25 is tight but you probably can expect names like Smith and Brennan because they're cheap. |
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BetterCallSaul
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Location: Captain Morgan Rielly Joined: 05.07.2013
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What does Giroux make? 8? Sign Kessel for 8@8 and put it behind you. It may seem like an overpayment now, bit he'd still be in his early 30s when it expires. |
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Woderwick
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Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON Joined: 02.12.2013
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Not sure who that is, but Reilly still has a shot! - 1979AD
Everybody keeps talking about this guy but I haven't seen him play yet. |
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AngryWhiteMale
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 09.14.2010
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Boy next year is shaping up to be a hell of a cap-mess.
Kessel, Dion, Bolland, Kuli, McClement, Raymond, Frazer and Ranger are all UFAs.
Reimer, Gardiner, Franson are RFAs.
With an extra 2m coming off the books from Tucker and Army, we'd better hope the cap goes up significantly after this season.
I would also venture that Bolland won't be kept after this season. Kuli may also decide to go elsewhere too. Perhaps that'll give an opportunity for younger players to break into the full-time roster, which isn't exactly a bad thing.
I doubt that the goaltending situation is resolved this year, and that we end up hanging onto both for next season.
Dion gets 6.5 this year. He simply isn't worth 6.5. He's worth a little over 5, yet his ego won't allow him to take a paycut. I wouldn't mind letting him walk at the end of the season if we see enough good things from the other defensemen. We should have enough offence from the back end and good enough goaltending to survive without Dion, but we'll have to wait and see of course. |
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AngryWhiteMale
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 09.14.2010
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While I like Liles, and would ideally want to keep him on roster... he won't be by season's start.
Either trade or waivers, he's gone... Holzer probably loses his spot to Brennan, and the Leafs are fine for cap, carrying 3 extra players. - Feeling Glucky?
Don't we retain a part of his salary if he's claimed on waivers? |
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1979AD
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Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan Joined: 09.08.2010
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Everybody keeps talking about this guy but I haven't seen him play yet. - Woderwick
Morgan Reilly, the porn star. |
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Mr_Smokey
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.02.2008
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Nice deal to sign Franson, but what's with this notion that the Leafs absolutely could not survive the season without Franson in the line up? Suddenly JML is a fossil that requires a walker to get around? I wish some people would look at the "body of work" rather that 1 season, or half of a season.
As for clearing cap space move Liles with Colborne for a 2nd or a 3rd to one of the 5 teams with cap space. |
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The Law
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Joined: 01.29.2008
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Main takeaway from my comment: While it'd be nice to get something for him... if they can't, waivers offer a way out of the problem. - Feeling Glucky?
The Leafs need every buck right now and waiving Liles (if he can't be traded) saves more than Brennan.
1.25 million is what they have to carry "extras". It wouldn't suprise me if they just carry one extra skater through the first couple of weeks. |
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AngryWhiteMale
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 09.14.2010
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Nice deal to sign Franson, but what's with this notion that the Leafs absolutely could not survive the season without Franson in the line up? Suddenly JML is a fossil that requires a walker to get around? I wish some people would look at the "body of work" rather that 1 season, or half of a season.
As for clearing cap space move Liles with Colborne for a 2nd or a 3rd to one of the 5 teams with cap space. - Mr_Smokey
Meh, not quite sure moving Colborne's the right idea. I do thinkk we'd need to give up a decent pick into to shed Liles' salary, which frankly must be done. |
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Woderwick
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Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON Joined: 02.12.2013
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What does Giroux make? 8? Sign Kessel for 8@8 and put it behind you. It may seem like an overpayment now, bit he'd still be in his early 30s when it expires. - BetterCallSaul
I'm good with that. Is it just me, or does anyone else find it hard to imagine Kessel in his mid to late 30's. Nothing to do with his next contract, I just try to imagine Kessel beyond that. Will he look like a tubby Al Iafrate by then - an uglier version? |
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Feeling Glucky?
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Location: Tanktown, ON Joined: 10.08.2008
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Cap Geek says they've got -1 milly now. Remove Smith (550), Liles (925), and Holzer (787) from that equation like you have and the Leafs would have about 1.25 million.
They get some cap relief for injuries so McLaren's fill in won't hurt their cap situation. They'll likely need to carry an extra fwd and a 7th dman. 1.25 is tight but you probably can expect names like Smith and Brennan because they're cheap. - The Law
only get that cap relief if the guy is on LTIR.
Here's how it's probably gonna look:
CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Joffrey Lupul ($5.250m) / Tyler Bozak ($4.200m) / Phil Kessel ($5.400m)
James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Nazem Kadri ($2.900m) / Mason Raymond ($1.000m)
Joe Colborne ($0.600m) / Dave Bolland ($3.375m) / Nikolai Kulemin ($2.800m)
Troy Bodie ($0.600m) / Jay McClement ($1.500m) / Colton Orr ($0.925m)
Frazer McLaren ($0.700m) / David Clarkson ($5.250m)
DEFENSEMEN
Dion Phaneuf ($6.500m) / Jake Gardiner ($1.117m)
Carl Gunnarsson ($3.150m) / Cody Franson ($2.000m)
Mark Fraser ($1.275m) / Paul Ranger ($1.000m)
T.J. Brennan ($0.600m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jonathan Bernier ($2.900m)
James Reimer ($1.800m)
OTHER
Buyout: Darcy Tucker ($1.000m)
Buyout: Colby Armstrong ($1.000m)
Buried: John-Michael Liles ($2.950m)
RETAINED SALARY TRANSACTIONS (0.778% of upper limit)
Matt Frattin ($0.437m—0.5%) Ben Scrivens ($0.062m—0.1%)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,541,667; BONUSES: $300,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $58,333 |
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Woderwick
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Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON Joined: 02.12.2013
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Morgan Reilly, the porn star. - 1979AD
My word...I woudn't know anything about that! |
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Feeling Glucky?
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Location: Tanktown, ON Joined: 10.08.2008
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Don't we retain a part of his salary if he's claimed on waivers? - AngryWhiteMale
nope. Used to be that if you recalled a guy and he got claimed, you'd keep half his salary... but now there are no recalls, and any team that claims him is on the hook for the whole thing. |
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AngryWhiteMale
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 09.14.2010
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nope. Used to be that if you recalled a guy and he got claimed, you'd keep half his salary... but now there are no recalls, and any team that claims him is on the hook for the whole thing. - Feeling Glucky?
dope! |
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Sammich
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Location: You're the fukin best Bellows! Joined: 02.10.2011
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Mike Brophy @HockeyBroph 2m
Leafs welcome Cody Franson to the ice with a thundering stick slap salute. Signs 1 year for $2 mil - IrishRage
hope rielly is ready next year because Franson is as good as gone. Good deal for the Leafs, someone will pay franson +4mil next year and will regret it. |
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senstroll
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Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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Boy next year is shaping up to be a hell of a cap-mess.
- AngryWhiteMale
Yes...A lot of people keep mentioning next year the cap goes up there is lots of space. Much like this year. Once you sit down and start putting numbers beside names..its gone very fast
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Cap Geek says they've got -1 milly now. Remove Smith (550), Liles (925), and Holzer (787) from that equation like you have and the Leafs would have about 1.25 million.
They get some cap relief for injuries so McLaren's fill in won't hurt their cap situation. They'll likely need to carry an extra fwd and a 7th dman. 1.25 is tight but you probably can expect names like Smith and Brennan because they're cheap. - The Law
Demoting Smith and Holzer leaves them at +333K and theres no chance they demote Liles...
Figure if you remove some of the bonuses that Capgeek counts (Gardiner -200k) that just brings them around $5-600k |
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Sammich
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Location: You're the fukin best Bellows! Joined: 02.10.2011
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Yes...A lot of people keep mentioning next year the cap goes up there is lots of space. Much like this year. Once you sit down and start putting numbers beside names..its gone very fast - senstroll
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only get that cap relief if the guy is on LTIR.
Here's how it's probably gonna look:
CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Joffrey Lupul ($5.250m) / Tyler Bozak ($4.200m) / Phil Kessel ($5.400m)
James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Nazem Kadri ($2.900m) / Mason Raymond ($1.000m)
Joe Colborne ($0.600m) / Dave Bolland ($3.375m) / Nikolai Kulemin ($2.800m)
Troy Bodie ($0.600m) / Jay McClement ($1.500m) / Colton Orr ($0.925m)
Frazer McLaren ($0.700m) / David Clarkson ($5.250m)
DEFENSEMEN
Dion Phaneuf ($6.500m) / Jake Gardiner ($1.117m)
Carl Gunnarsson ($3.150m) / Cody Franson ($2.000m)
Mark Fraser ($1.275m) / Paul Ranger ($1.000m)
T.J. Brennan ($0.600m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jonathan Bernier ($2.900m)
James Reimer ($1.800m)
OTHER
Buyout: Darcy Tucker ($1.000m)
Buyout: Colby Armstrong ($1.000m)
Buried: John-Michael Liles ($2.950m)
RETAINED SALARY TRANSACTIONS (0.778% of upper limit)
Matt Frattin ($0.437m—0.5%) Ben Scrivens ($0.062m—0.1%)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,541,667; BONUSES: $300,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $58,333 - Feeling Glucky?
Id bet a solid few beers that Liles wont be bought out |
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AngryWhiteMale
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 09.14.2010
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Id bet a solid few beers that Liles wont be bought out - Colin Dambrauskas
I'm getting pretty confident that Bolland, Kuli and Dion won't be getting great contract offers. |
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senstroll
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Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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IrishRage
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Location: ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็༼ ຈل͜ຈ༽ส�, ON Joined: 08.02.2008
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hope rielly is ready next year because Franson is as good as gone. Good deal for the Leafs, someone will pay franson +4mil next year and will regret it. - Sammich
He will be an RFA |
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Woderwick
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Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON Joined: 02.12.2013
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Id bet a solid few beers that Liles wont be bought out - Colin Dambrauskas
Frozen? I hate that. |
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Yes...A lot of people keep mentioning next year the cap goes up there is lots of space. Much like this year. Once you sit down and start putting numbers beside names..its gone very fast - senstroll
Leafs have $30M going into next year.
Phaneuf eats up around 6
Kessel eats up around 7.5
Franson eats up arond 3.5
Leaving $13M for Bolland, Kulemin, McLement, Raymond, Colborne, Fraser, Gardiner, Ranger, Reimer
Uh yeah...thats going to be tricky.
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