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flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Sep 26 @ 7:19 PM ET
Damn first time, in a long time I havent been able to find an online feed.

Anyone got anything?
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Sep 26 @ 7:19 PM ET
Hall's FO% is better than Giroux's.

Something like 57% to 54% I believe.

- Giroux_Is_God

Ya, but Giroux led the league in faceoffs taken and faceoffs won last year. At this point he's the better faceoff guy.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Sep 26 @ 7:19 PM ET
Damn first time, in a long time I havent been able to find an online feed.

Anyone got anything?

- flyer_nutter

flyers.nhl.com
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 26 @ 7:19 PM ET
Anyone know if we can watch the game locally... Comcast keeps showing phillies games from the mid 80's to early 2000's ....
- JoeRussomanno


Flyers website has a feed from the Devils site
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 26 @ 7:20 PM ET
Ya, but Giroux led the league in faceoffs taken and faceoffs won last year. At this point he's the better faceoff guy.
- JAKEw1234


No, he isn't. Hall wins a higher percentage of his faceoffs. Giroux took more last year because they had nobody else that Laviolette trusted
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Sep 26 @ 7:20 PM ET
Flyers website has a feed from the Devils site
- Jsaquella

My computer poop the bed... Sigh... K ill see you guys next week after hibernation ends... Heading back to my cave...
Ps thanks for the info jsaq
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 26 @ 7:21 PM ET
My computer poop the bed... Sigh... K ill see you guys next week after hibernation ends... Heading back to my cave...
- JoeRussomanno


There's no commentary or score overlays....and almost no regulars dressed for the Flyers. No Giroux, Lecavalier, Voracek, Timonen...definitely the B team tonight
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 26 @ 7:22 PM ET
There is seriously no reason for Gill or Hall to make this team.

We need to role the dice with our young players in Lauridsen and VdV for depth purposes. The former won't even make the team anyways but can easily serve as the club's eight blue-liner while also sharpening his skills in the minors.

Laughton I'm indifferent about. Part of me wants to see him on this team but it wouldn't hurt for him to go back to the OHL for the year and play for Canada in WJC either.

One last note - I'm disappointed Cousins didn't make the team as a 4th line winger.

- LordStanley88


Certainly there is a very good reason why Hall should make the team. Last Season, because Giroux was the only reliable face-off option on the team. He had to take far too many faceoffs and defensive zone starts. Having a veteran like Hall, who can take some of that off of Giroux, will allow Giroux to play in more offensive situations and offensive zone starts. Which will make the team better. Hall is also a solid player on the PK. Which can also help reduce the amount of time Giroux spends on the PK.

Cousins was an early cut, which is a clear indicator that he's not close to NHL ready.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 26 @ 7:24 PM ET
Ya, but Giroux led the league in faceoffs taken and faceoffs won last year. At this point he's the better faceoff guy.
- JAKEw1234


The best way is to look at percentage. That's an equal comparison. Giroux is solid on draws. But he's not as good as Hall is. Hall is a faceoff specialist.
AGL_91
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: ON
Joined: 06.29.2013

Sep 26 @ 7:25 PM ET
I cant wait to watch a full game of Flyers hockey with all the regulars and two points on the line
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Sep 26 @ 7:25 PM ET
flyers.nhl.com
- JAKEw1234


Awesome thanks, got it working from the Devils Page, and for doing so the first thing I see is Mason give up a goal.
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Sep 26 @ 7:27 PM ET
I think Max Talbot will. He's been playing third line as much as Raffl. Definitely possible Raffl is the 3rd line LW, with Talbot dropping to 4th line, though
- Jsaquella


I would hope that is the case. I think Raffl would be wasted on the 4th line - not that I'm not a Talbot fan but I'm hoping that Couts will get to play with some more skilled wingers this season.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 26 @ 7:28 PM ET
I would hope that is the case. I think Raffl would be wasted on the 4th line - not that I'm not a Talbot fan but I'm hoping that Couts will get to play with some more skilled wingers this season.
- LordStanley88


That'd be one of the reasons I'd be OK with Jones...he's got OK hands
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 26 @ 7:29 PM ET
Awesome thanks, got it working from the Devils Page, and for doing so the first thing I see is Mason give up a goal.
- flyer_nutter


Yeah, but it was waved off...
Cable2k
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Terrace, BC
Joined: 08.29.2006

Sep 26 @ 7:29 PM ET
very weird watching it that way ... at least it is a very clear feed!
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Sep 26 @ 7:29 PM ET
Certainly there is a very good reason why Hall should make the team. Last Season, because Giroux was the only reliable face-off option on the team. He had to take far too many faceoffs and defensive zone starts. Having a veteran like Hall, who can take some of that off of Giroux, will allow Giroux to play in more offensive situations and offensive zone starts. Which will make the team better. Hall is also a solid player on the PK. Which can also help reduce the amount of time Giroux spends on the PK.

Cousins was an early cut, which is a clear indicator that he's not close to NHL ready.

- MJL


Agreed, I like him long-term though and think he could possibly fill a 4th-line role as early as sometime this season.

I'd personally keep Vandevelde over Hall because the former is the better skater of the two, hence my reluctance to hold onto the latter in spite of his clear dominance at the dot.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Sep 26 @ 7:30 PM ET
Ya, but Giroux led the league in faceoffs taken and faceoffs won last year. At this point he's the better faceoff guy.
- JAKEw1234

No that means lavy just marched him out there because he had no one else better. Would you be sending Briere out there to take a defensive zone draw? Or Couturier? Total wins is a skewed number, because of the sheer amount of draws he took.

With Vinny in the fold, G won't be taking as many draws. Guarantee he won't be leading the NHL in faceoff wins this season.

I spent the last 10 minutes googling looking for career faceoff stats and found nothing. That being said, I'm pretty positive Hall's FO% has G's beat on a yearly basis.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Sep 26 @ 7:32 PM ET
So this is what quiet sex must feel like
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Sep 26 @ 7:33 PM ET
very weird watching it that way ... at least it is a very clear feed!
- Cable2k


If I could sync up the radio, it'd be OK. Oddly enough, the only radio I own is in my car.....
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 26 @ 7:34 PM ET
Mason just made a nice kick save
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Sep 26 @ 7:34 PM ET
"I love Kovalchuk! *clap clap clapclapclap*"
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Sep 26 @ 7:35 PM ET
Best part of this for me is the fans:

Flyer fan: (something I could make out)
Jersey fan: Go Home!
Flyer fan: Ilya Kovalchuk!

JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Sep 26 @ 7:36 PM ET
No, he isn't. Hall wins a higher percentage of his faceoffs. Giroux took more last year because they had nobody else that Laviolette trusted
- Jsaquella

Does that change the fact that he took a huge number of faceoffs and therby proved himself to be one of the top faceoff guys in the league?
Last year the top 10 faceoffs guys who took more than 700 faceoffs
1. Bergeron
2. Toews
3. Thornton
4. Vermette
5. Zajac
6. Gordon
7. Stoll
8. Datsyuk
9. Duchene
10. Giroux (with 300 more faceoffs taken than Duchene)
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Sep 26 @ 7:36 PM ET


That baby should not be eating any more pizza.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Sep 26 @ 7:38 PM ET
Best part of this for me is the fans:

Flyer fan: (something I could make out)
Jersey fan: Go Home!
Flyer fan: Ilya Kovalchuk!


- flyer_nutter

Flyer Fan, following a "Let's go Devils" chant: "Aaaaaaand another sellout crowd here in the Prudential Center...!"
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