Any cuts today?

Id take Hoff over every d we have except Hammer.
- Bluechip23

In an ideal world I'd like to have seen Hoff kept at a higher price if needed and Ballard gone somehow. After losing Hoff, they should have tried to dump Ballard to keep Salo for a couple of years. He was on the ice more than Ballard in spite of his injuries and was a pretty good compliment.... but not if it was going to prevent them from signing Garrison.

All in all the Garrison move has looked pretty good. He is pretty solid in his own net and is a machine gun on the point.

The season after he was traded I watched Ehrhoff defend his team's players multiple times and think he may have had 1 more fight than Bieksa that season even.... I know he had 4 that I saw.... Bieksa big on chasing down guys who slash him in the pads but small on stepping up when a Sedin is run headfirst on his shift. He asks for a fight then....and there is no payback at all.

With that being said, Ehrhoff fighting is a frigging joke.

- boonerbuck

I think he broke his hand or something in a fight and was out for a quite a while too.

Any cuts today?
- LeftCoaster

Not with all the injuries, at least I don't think so.

In an ideal world I'd like to have seen Hoff kept at a higher price if needed and Ballard gone somehow. After losing Hoff, they should have tried to dump Ballard to keep Salo for a couple of years. He was on the ice more than Ballard in spite of his injuries and was a pretty good compliment.... but not if it was going to prevent them from signing Garrison.

All in all the Garrison move has looked pretty good. He is pretty solid in his own net and is a machine gun on the point.
- boonerbuck

OK, I've had to do this in the past to you but lets look again Bloated...

Originally you put my claim that the lack of **forward** depth keeps showing its ugly head in bold and then point to Ehrhoff. Is there any need for more evidence that you are taking what Im saying out of context? Since when is Ehrhoff a forward? ... and you build your argument from there.... even reading it again it floats right by you and you use it as an example again.

You say this just now...

You've questioned Gillis' body of work twice here. You've said that Gillis' moves have been ugly at best and he is clearly, to most observers anyway, completely overrated.

False, you reworded what I said. I said his "lack of forward depth". You turned that into " his moves",,, which contradicts other things I've been saying altogether. Its all in the posts you are making....look again.

Not only that, you take my comment giving Gillis credit with injecting quality depth into the team at the right time in the past and try to turn it around. Seriously, look at the very comments you are quoting,,,, you are dropping words and injecting words for some reason. Why? What is your beef? Why am I always having to beat off these frigging opinions people MAKE for me....
- boonerbuck

So are you saying Gillis has done a good job? A bad job? Or are you indifferent to his work so far?

From what I've read I believe you think he's done a good job but is overrated. Correct me if I'm wrong (which I'm sure you'll do).

So are you saying Gillis has done a good job? A bad job? Or are you indifferent to his work so far?

From what I've read I believe you think he's done a good job but is overrated. Correct me if I'm wrong (which I'm sure you'll do).
- bloatedmosquito

My 2 cents, he's did a good job during a very short window. Added Malhotra, Higgins, Ehrhoff and Lappy for depth. Then screwed it all up in short order.

My 2 cents, he's did a good job during a very short window. Added Malhotra, Higgins, Ehrhoff and Lappy for depth. Then screwed it all up in short order.
- LeftCoaster

Brilliant.

I'm excited to see what our defence corp does this year. I think they can put up numbers which resemble the Ehrhoff era in Vancouver.

My 2 cents, he's did a good job during a very short window. Added Malhotra, Higgins, Ehrhoff and Lappy for depth. Then screwed it all up in short order.
- LeftCoaster

A lot of it was bad luck, injuries, unrealistic expectations (on his part about the potential return for Luongo), hanging onto a coach that had long past his expiration date and a CBA that destroyed the Canucks cap situation. I personally feel he did the best he could, his one fault if he has any at all is his loyalty to the people that work for him, players and coaches included. I think it comes from his agent background, he's held onto people longer than maybe what a more objective GM might have. I think a lot goes back to his philosophy of moneyball, the problem is, is that what works on the baseball field doesn't quite translate onto the ice.

My 2 cents, he's did a good job during a very short window. Added Malhotra, Higgins, Ehrhoff and Lappy for depth. Then screwed it all up in short order.
- LeftCoaster

Malhotra might've still been a Canuck if it weren't for his injury. Higgins is still a Canuck. Ehrhoff was let go because of his demands. Lappy was let go because management wanted a new look on the bottom 6.


I think all of those situations were handled perfectly. [/img]

My 2 cents, he's did a good job during a very short window. Added Malhotra, Higgins, Ehrhoff and Lappy for depth. Then screwed it all up in short order.
- LeftCoaster

Hey, I'm not a fan of his work. But I'm a cynical guy. I also go to the games so I expect a win every night. Multiple cups. Unrealistic.

If I was to look at what he's achieved from a third person perspective then you would have to say he's done a good job. Compare Gillis' gaffs to some of his peers. Luongo's contract stands out but the new CBA made it look a lot worse. Everything else is excusable in comparison.

But I always fall back on the fact that I support the crest. Not the particular roster at the time. Not the management regime. So whatever moves Gillis makes I have to hope it all works out and I get to see a cup in my lifetime.

The cynic says this GM ain't going to get us there.

Hey, I'm not a fan of his work. But I'm a cynical guy. I also go to the games so I expect a win every night. Multiple cups. Unrealistic.

If I was to look at what he's achieved from a third person perspective then you would have to say he's done a good job. Compare Gillis' gaffs to some of his peers. Luongo's contract stands out but the new CBA made it look a lot worse. Everything else is excusable in comparison.

But I always fall back on the fact that I support the crest. Not the particular roster at the time. Not the management regime. So whatever moves Gillis makes I have to hope it all works out and I get to see a cup in my lifetime.

The cynic says this GM ain't going to get us there.
- bloatedmosquito

The cynic in me says that we ain't ever going to get there, at least, not as a contender, maybe only as a team like LA that gets hot at the right time and gets lucky with matchups and lack of injuries. I just think having to travel the most out of any team in the NHL is almost too much of an insummountable obstacle when it comes to the playoffs.

Hey, I'm not a fan of his work. But I'm a cynical guy. I also go to the games so I expect a win every night. Multiple cups. Unrealistic.

If I was to look at what he's achieved from a third person perspective then you would have to say he's done a good job. Compare Gillis' gaffs to some of his peers. Luongo's contract stands out but the new CBA made it look a lot worse. Everything else is excusable in comparison.

But I always fall back on the fact that I support the crest. Not the particular roster at the time. Not the management regime. So whatever moves Gillis makes I have to hope it all works out and I get to see a cup in my lifetime.

The cynic says this GM ain't going to get us there.
- bloatedmosquito

2011/12 & 2012/13 he totally poop the bed with the line-up. Two wasted years of competing for a Cup.

#Canuck forward lines tonight - Daniel-Henrik-Burrows, Shinkaruk-Kesler-Hansen, Richardson-Horvat-Santorelli, Sestito-Gaunce-Hamill

2011/12 & 2012/13 he totally poop the bed with the line-up. Two wasted years of competing for a Cup.
- LeftCoaster

I agree, expecting that basically the same team that hasn't been able to achieve the ultimate goal will suddenly be able to achieve it is unrealistic IMO. Nothing has changed on the ice except the "system", which seriously, how different is it really going to be...

So are you saying Gillis has done a good job? A bad job? Or are you indifferent to his work so far?

From what I've read I believe you think he's done a good job but is overrated. Correct me if I'm wrong (which I'm sure you'll do).
- bloatedmosquito

I stand behind my statement that Gillis is "overrated **now**"...actual quote, you added an exaggeration"completely", and then dropped "now" so it covers his entire body of work. In this same thread I give him props for getting timing right on when to load up depth for that run...but criticize his work on the forward positions since then.... I say "I think we'll have a better team next season...but not this season".... do you see what Im capable of, giving credit and criticism on the entire body of work.... you bounce it back like Im talking in circles but I wonder if it's because really, thats how you rationalize yourself... or why would you make the effort to reword so much?

What you've done is argue entirely based on a sentence or two which you've reworded. There are people in this thread that have more or less said what you are insinuating... and that's been already discussed for a second time. I get the feeling that you hit reply before you read the posts or thread even...

#Canuck forward lines tonight - Daniel-Henrik-Burrows, Shinkaruk-Kesler-Hansen, Richardson-Horvat-Santorelli, Sestito-Gaunce-Hamill
- LeftCoaster

Niemi and Lack

#Canuck forward lines tonight - Daniel-Henrik-Burrows, Shinkaruk-Kesler-Hansen, Richardson-Horvat-Santorelli, Sestito-Gaunce-Hamill
- LeftCoaster

I like those lines considering who's available.

Appreciate all the thoughts and comments about the blog, thanks fellas.

Appreciate all the thoughts and comments about the blog, thanks fellas.
- Nucker101

Who stands out tonight?

LOL, Tanev, still doesn't count as a shot on goal

Richardson & Santorelli look good together.

Gaunce with D. Sedin and Hamill on that last shift also looked good, right place right time.

Who stands out tonight?
- 1970vintage

I want to say Horvat, but I'm a little worried that he'll be a bit tired tonight. I'll go with Lack, Corrado and Gaunce(doesn't rely on speed so it's okay if he's a bit tired).

Richardson & Santorelli look good together.

Gaunce with D. Sedin and Hamill on that last shift also looked good, right place right time.
- 1970vintage

The thing I love about Santorelli is that he works his ass of every shift like all bottom 6 players have to, but he has a better speed/skill combo than most typical bottom 6 players and he's pretty dangerous offensively.