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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Sep 25 @ 10:41 AM ET
How has he shown he's not good enough to be one? He's been a starter for how many Season now, and has been a Vezina finalist. Why wouldn't he view himself as a starter?
- MJL


I'm sure he views himself as being many things.

The 30 teams in the NHL don't see him as a backup, let alone a starter.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 25 @ 10:41 AM ET
Which 4 were they?
- MJL


Calgary, Edmonton, Florida, and Minnesota.
Kipper retired, Dubnyk's not proven yet (although they already have 1 older very in Khabibulin, so....), Florida brought in Thomas to help easie in Markstrom, and I had thought Backstrom was out of Minny, but was wrong. So 3.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 25 @ 10:44 AM ET
I'm sure he views himself as being many things.

The 30 teams in the NHL don't see him as a backup, let alone a starter.

- Feanor



You don't know that. Who knows what teams have talked to Bryzalov's agent, and what teams haven't. Just like Gagne told his agent not to talk to other teams, because he was waiting on the Flyers. You're making a lot of assumptions there. There is endless reasons that can speculated why he hasn't signed somewhere at this point. With only one of those reasons being that 30 teams don't want him.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Sep 25 @ 10:45 AM ET
That's a save that should be made in my opinion. But overall, I think Emery played a strong game, and looked good.
- MJL


i give him a pass. looked worse than it was. he played a great game.

unfortunately giroux's shot hit the post moments earlier. otherwise we're looking at 1-1 and who knows how it ends.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 25 @ 10:47 AM ET
Calgary, Edmonton, Florida, and Minnesota.
Kipper retired, Dubnyk's not proven yet (although they already have 1 older very in Khabibulin, so....), Florida brought in Thomas to help easie in Markstrom, and I had thought Backstrom was out of Minny, but was wrong. So 3.

- jmatchett383


Just because Dubnyk is not proven yet, doesn't mean the spot was open. If the team is not actively shopping for a starter in the off season, then the spot isn't open.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Sep 25 @ 10:48 AM ET
You don't know that. Who knows what teams have talked to Bryzalov's agent, and what teams haven't. Just like Gagne told his agent not to talk to other teams, because he was waiting on the Flyers. You're making a lot of assumptions there. There is endless reasons that can speculated why he hasn't signed somewhere at this point. With only one of those reasons being that 30 teams don't want him.
- MJL


He's not on an NHL roster. That's a fact, not an assumption.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 25 @ 10:50 AM ET
i give him a pass. looked worse than it was. he played a great game.

unfortunately giroux's shot hit the post moments earlier. otherwise we're looking at 1-1 and who knows how it ends.

- hammarby31


Is the answer Jesus?
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 25 @ 10:51 AM ET
Calgary, Edmonton, Florida, and Minnesota.
Kipper retired, Dubnyk's not proven yet (although they already have 1 older very in Khabibulin, so....), Florida brought in Thomas to help easie in Markstrom, and I had thought Backstrom was out of Minny, but was wrong. So 3.

- jmatchett383


Khabibulin signed with CHicago to replace Emery. I'd have to check to see who their backup is now, but I believe Dubnyk is their guy.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Sep 25 @ 10:53 AM ET
Is the answer Jesus?
- jmatchett383


no.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 25 @ 10:55 AM ET
He's not on an NHL roster. That's a fact, not an assumption.
- Feanor



It is a fact that he's not on an NHL roster. But why he's not on an NHL roster is an assumption.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 25 @ 10:55 AM ET
Khabibulin signed with CHicago to replace Emery. I'd have to check to see who their backup is now, but I believe Dubnyk is their guy.
- Hextall271



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PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Sep 25 @ 10:56 AM ET
You don't know that. Who knows what teams have talked to Bryzalov's agent, and what teams haven't. Just like Gagne told his agent not to talk to other teams, because he was waiting on the Flyers. You're making a lot of assumptions there. There is endless reasons that can speculated why he hasn't signed somewhere at this point. With only one of those reasons being that 30 teams don't want him.
- MJL


Im wondering if hextall had any sway with the flyers not picking up gagne again.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Sep 25 @ 11:04 AM ET
It is a fact that he's not on an NHL roster. But why he's not on an NHL roster is an assumption.
- MJL


Might be due to salary cap problems.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 25 @ 11:10 AM ET
Might be due to salary cap problems.
- Feanor



Very possible. Don't know what Bryzgalov's salary demands are.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 25 @ 11:15 AM ET
Very possible. Don't know what Bryzgalov's salary demands are.
- MJL


3 year supply of bear mace
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Sep 25 @ 11:21 AM ET
FWIW some observations from last nights game:

Laughton: Had some jump in his skates and overall played well; he certainly wouldn't look out of place centering the 4th line.

Raffl: Meh, looked ok, but I can't see any way he should be on the 3rd line over Talbot. I'm fine with him as the 4th line LW

I thought the line of Talbot-Couturier-Read looked really good and I would be very happy with that combo as the 3rd line.

After seeing the cannon one timer Giroux took on the pp, I'm not at all worried about his hand injury any more.

Thought they played pretty well overall in the 2nd and 3rd periods, however it would have been nice if someone other than Talbot, Couturier, Read and Emery bothered to show up in the 1st.

The 2nd goal was a bit questionable, but overall I thought Emery played pretty well.

All in all it was a typical preseason game: vets going through the motions (except for the Devils Salvador, who must be nuts diving in front of shots in a preseason game!), kids flying all over the ice and generally a boring game with bits of action here and there.

FWIW, this would be my lineup for the opener, assuming no one is traded.

Hartnell-Giroux-Voracek
Schenn-Vinnie-Simmonds
Talbot-Couturier-Read
Raffle or Rosehill-Laughton-Rinaldo

Timonen-Coburn
Streit-Schenn
Mezaros-Grossmann

Emery
Mason

spares: Rosehill or Raffle, Hall and Gus
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 25 @ 11:29 AM ET
FWIW some observations from last nights game:

Laughton: Had some jump in his skates and overall played well; he certainly wouldn't look out of place centering the 4th line.

Raffl: Meh, looked ok, but I can't see any way he should be on the 3rd line over Talbot. I'm fine with him as the 4th line LW

I thought the line of Talbot-Couturier-Read looked really good and I would be very happy with that combo as the 3rd line.

After seeing the cannon one timer Giroux took on the pp, I'm not at all worried about his hand injury any more.

Thought they played pretty well overall in the 2nd and 3rd periods, however it would have been nice if someone other than Talbot, Couturier, Read and Emery bothered to show up in the 1st.

The 2nd goal was a bit questionable, but overall I thought Emery played pretty well.

All in all it was a typical preseason game: vets going through the motions (except for the Devils Salvador, who must be nuts diving in front of shots in a preseason game!), kids flying all over the ice and generally a boring game with bits of action here and there.

FWIW, this would be my lineup for the opener, assuming no one is traded.

Hartnell-Giroux-Voracek
Schenn-Vinnie-Simmonds
Talbot-Couturier-Read
Raffle or Rosehill-Laughton-Rinaldo

Timonen-Coburn
Streit-Schenn
Mezaros-Grossmann

Emery
Mason

spares: Rosehill or Raffle, Hall and Gus

- BiggE


Read was the most noticeable player out there. Puck seemed to be finding him all game long.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Sep 25 @ 4:37 PM ET
Im wondering if hextall had any sway with the flyers not picking up gagne again.
- PhillaBully

Hexy is here to run the Phantoms, unless they were penciling gags into the AHL lineup, I doubt it.
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