Who said Carle would have made a difference? All I said was he was a better skater.
- jmatchett383

I didn't state that you did. That was a point that I added.

who develops more this season schenn or coots?

Breeze created an atmosphere when it would've been near impossible to keep him regardless of his play. His comments about Stalin, the Philly area, Philly people on welfare, etc., were an obvious ploy to get his ticket punched.

It almost seemed to me that he though the Flyers were on the fence about giving him one more year and he was having none of it.
- 77rams

I totally agree with this, thats why i was in favor of getting rid of him. I still think he is a decent goalie, but all the extra nonesense i could have done without.

who develops more this season schenn or coots?
- SMS4016

schenn +1

Breeze created an atmosphere when it would've been near impossible to keep him regardless of his play. His comments about Stalin, the Philly area, Philly people on welfare, etc., were an obvious ploy to get his ticket punched.

It almost seemed to me that he though the Flyers were on the fence about giving him one more year and he was having none of it.
- 77rams

Agreed. He was looking for a way out of town. His below average play was enough to get him out of here, the Stalin garbage among all the other asinine crap was the cherry on the sundae.

Water under the bridge now. Hopefully Mason/Emery can provide some competitive goaltending. My concern is if Mason struggles early, Emery may be given a workload that could lead to an injury.

Gagne isn't in the League right now either. I guess he suck also.

How many starting spots in goal were available this past off season?

And the Flyers team defense was superb last night. They moved the puck efficiently out of their own zone the entire game, to limit the amount of time that the Devils spent in the Flyers end of the ice. Which led to boatloads of transition attack time against the Devils. And Emery, who played well most of the game, looked great on that weak backhander on the Devils 2nd goal.
- MJL

Gordie Howe, and Bobby Orr aren't in the League now. Those guys really blow.

Comparing Gagne to a goaltender who signed a 9 yr 51 million dollar contract is laughable.

Gordie Howe, and Bobby Orr aren't in the League now. Those guys really blow.

Comparing Gagne to a goaltender who signed a 9 yr 51 million dollar contract is laughable.
- PLindbergh31

I'd take Bobby Orr and his knee issues over Hal Gill.

Gagne isn't in the League right now either. I guess he suck also.

How many starting spots in goal were available this past off season?

And the Flyers team defense was superb last night. They moved the puck efficiently out of their own zone the entire game, to limit the amount of time that the Devils spent in the Flyers end of the ice. Which led to boatloads of transition attack time against the Devils. And Emery, who played well most of the game, looked great on that weak backhander on the Devils 2nd goal.
- MJL

that weak backhander got by him because the shooter actually didn't shoot the puck when he intended as he got tangled with the flyers d. emery dropped into the butterfly to make the save and didn't recover in time.

Gagne has been beaten down by injuries. What is Bryzgalov's excuse for no team in the league being interested in him?

I'd take Bobby Orr and his knee issues over Hal Gill.
- jmatchett383

I don't think there is any chance Gill makes the team. Heck if the Flyers only go with 7 dmen Gervais might not make it.

Gordie Howe, and Bobby Orr aren't in the League now. Those guys really blow.

Comparing Gagne to a goaltender who signed a 9 yr 51 million dollar contract is laughable.
- PLindbergh31

I didn't compare Gagne to Bryzgalov. I simply inferred that there are many reasons why a good player can be unsigned at this point.

But there is on big difference between the two. Gagne isn't getting paid. Bryzgalov is.

Last night reminded me a lot of last season..... a bit scary. Dominated early, turnovers, bad breakouts, no support or team cohesion, etc ....

that weak backhander got by him because the shooter actually didn't shoot the puck when he intended as he got tangled with the flyers d. emery dropped into the butterfly to make the save and didn't recover in time.
- hammarby31

That's a save that should be made in my opinion. But overall, I think Emery played a strong game, and looked good.

Gagne has been beaten down by injuries. What is Bryzgalov's excuse for no team in the league being interested in him?
- Feanor

How many teams were looking for a starting goaltender this off season?

Last night reminded me a lot of last season..... a bit scary. Dominated early, turnovers, bad breakouts, no support or team cohesion, etc ....
- Chris48

I wouldn't call getting outshot 8-0 dominating early.

I wouldn't call getting outshot 8-0 dominating early.
- jmatchett383

I think he means they got dominated early.

How many teams were looking for a starting goaltender this off season?
- MJL

4 by my count, and a few looking for vet backups.

How many teams were looking for a starting goaltender this off season?
- MJL

Why would Bryz expect to be a starting goaltender?

Chicago are paying a 40 year old Russian $2 million to be their backup.

I think he means they got dominated early.
- MJL

My bad. After that rough start, I thought they actually played better as a whole with a few short lapses.

4 by my count, and a few looking for vet backups.
- jmatchett383

Which 4 were they?

I didn't compare Gagne to Bryzgalov. I simply inferred that there are many reasons why a good player can be unsigned at this point.

But there is on big difference between the two. Gagne isn't getting paid. Bryzgalov is.
- MJL

One of the reasons why Gagne remains unsigned is the Flyers feel Raffl is a better option. We are going to find out if they are right.

Why would Bryz expect to be a starting goaltender?

Chicago are paying a 40 year old Russian $2 million to be their backup.
- Feanor

Why wouldn't he? He's in a position where he's not desperate, and can wait to sign somewhere he feels is the best situation for him.

Why wouldn't he? He's in a position where he's not desperate, and can wait to sign somewhere he feels is the best situation for him.
- MJL

Because he's shown he's not good enough to be one, and if he misses a full season his value will drop even further.

One of the reasons why Gagne remains unsigned is the Flyers feel Raffl is a better option. We are going to find out if they are right.
- PLindbergh31

I agree. So there can be a lot of circumstances towards a player remaining unsigned.

Because he's shown he's not good enough to be one, and if he misses a full season his value will drop even further.
- Feanor

How has he shown he's not good enough to be one? He's been a starter for how many Season now, and has been a Vezina finalist. Why wouldn't he view himself as a starter?