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monkhouse
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 06.22.2007

Sep 23 @ 10:54 AM ET
Michalek + Spezza = No Chemistry


If Maclean's plan is to keep them as an inseparable pair, he's barking up the wrong tree

Michalek scored more goals with Foligno as his Centreman than he did with Spezza

- conor_smythe



I don't watch a lot of games but I'm going to base this on fancy stats that I found in the box scores for that year :

Center and percentage of assists on goals by Mikalek:
Spezza assisted on 40% of his goals
Foligno assisted on 8.6% of his goals
Turris assisted on 5.7% of his goals
No center assisted on 45.7% of his goals

I didn't track but Greening had many assists definitely more than Foligno
I didn't track but often Spezzas assists were first assists


monkhouse
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 06.22.2007

Sep 23 @ 10:54 AM ET
Btw that research took me 5-10 minutes.
LondonSens
Ottawa Senators
Location: London, ON
Joined: 08.05.2011

Sep 23 @ 10:59 AM ET
Probably the ideal scenario, maybe see if we can get Columbus to bite for Cam Atkinson, or else maybe we move out Smith for a pick and see if Mark Stone on the wing can work out that way, big enough to punish guys but skilled enough to score.
- TommyDeVito


Cam Atkinson of the 5'7" 160lbs variety?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cam_Atkinson
TommyDeVito
Ottawa Senators
Location: We're gonna skate to one song, and one song only.
Joined: 12.15.2010

Sep 23 @ 11:03 AM ET
I posted a comment on the leafs thread about Kessel's cowardly stick swinging and spear in the game last night about 10 minutes ago. The comment posted and was immediately removed and my comment button showed up as locked. What a bunch of complete losers running that thread.

For the record, the comment was "Kessel is a big pu55y. What a cowardly stick swinging incident"....

I hope he gets suspended. Oh, and I am laughing my ass off about Clarkson. This mook has in the past few games been: 1. The third man in in a fight and 2. Come off the bench to fight. That idiot was signed for what, 8 years? He is going to be a boon to every team's power play unit...what a dummy. No wonder N.J. didn't want him back, he's a liability.

- jaz258


That happened to me in the oilers thread too, they were talking about a "logjam on the backend", to which I pointed out that it's only a logjam if all 7 positions are NHL caliber players. Comment vanished shortly after.
TommyDeVito
Ottawa Senators
Location: We're gonna skate to one song, and one song only.
Joined: 12.15.2010

Sep 23 @ 11:08 AM ET
ignorance and lack of any semblance of hockey knowledge
- sensarmy_11


His claims held no water, but the overarching point I think does have merit.

Saying someone has chemistry with a player like Jason Spezza because they score more goals with him than without him is like saying people swim better with a life jacket on - of course he scores more goals beside an elite playmaking center. Everyone does.

The question should be does Michalek make JS19 better, and based on the numbers I've seen, that isn't the case - so saying they have a natural chemistry might be pushing it. Milan has the skill and speed to play top line minutes, and Spezza naturally creates space and opportunity for him.

I don't believe for a second that another player in that spot with the same physical tools would be less successful over 82 games.
TommyDeVito
Ottawa Senators
Location: We're gonna skate to one song, and one song only.
Joined: 12.15.2010

Sep 23 @ 11:08 AM ET
Cam Atkinson of the 5'7" 160lbs variety?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cam_Atkinson

- LondonSens


No, not him, the one that I thought was 6'2" 215lbs or so

My bad.
TommyDeVito
Ottawa Senators
Location: We're gonna skate to one song, and one song only.
Joined: 12.15.2010

Sep 23 @ 11:12 AM ET
This is very interesting stuff. This would convince me to try 9MM on L2 and L3 a little more and see if he can have chemistry with 93 or 44. His salary shouldn't matter, if more goals are scored. Also opens up top line for someone else to spend time on 19's left side.

On another note, is capgeek's depth chart correct? It lists 14 LW and 6 RW. If these are the players preferred/natural positions, wouldn't it be handicapping the team a little? Is Bobby a LW? If so, maybe he'd work better there and put MacArthur up on 1RW?

- Stringer74


Don't ever trust a cap site with position information, they always get it wrong.

Both Bobby Ryan and Clarke MacArthur are naturally RW, they've just played LW at certain points.

Michalek, for that matter, prefers RW as well when he can get it.
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Sep 23 @ 11:15 AM ET
No, not him, the one that I thought was 6'2" 215lbs or so

My bad.

- TommyDeVito
Yeah that would be kinda funny ,unless he is a ninja.Is he a ninja???
Talkshowhost
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.17.2010

Sep 23 @ 11:30 AM ET
I don't watch a lot of games but I'm going to base this on fancy stats that I found in the box scores for that year :

Center and percentage of assists on goals by Mikalek:
Spezza assisted on 40% of his goals
Foligno assisted on 8.6% of his goals
Turris assisted on 5.7% of his goals
No center assisted on 45.7% of his goals

I didn't track but Greening had many assists definitely more than Foligno
I didn't track but often Spezzas assists were first assists

- monkhouse


Facts have no place in arguments like this!
Stringer74
Ottawa Senators
Location: "Bozak is better than Turris" - prock, ON
Joined: 02.04.2011

Sep 23 @ 11:43 AM ET
Don't ever trust a cap site with position information, they always get it wrong.

Both Bobby Ryan and Clarke MacArthur are naturally RW, they've just played LW at certain points.

Michalek, for that matter, prefers RW as well when he can get it.

- TommyDeVito


Thanks. Is there a reliable site for this info?
Gaskoin
Arizona Coyotes
Location: Washington, IL
Joined: 05.03.2022

Nov 2 @ 10:37 PM ET
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