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Kaptainkesler
Joined: 02.21.2011

Sep 21 @ 8:08 PM ET
Sedin/Sedin/Shinkaruk
Burrows/Kesler/Kassian
Higgins/Schroeder/Hansen

That's a Calder right there!

- 1970vintage

Who's going to forecheck for turnovers on that line? Edler?
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 21 @ 8:09 PM ET
You look at what guys got this summer. The Higgins contract is solid. However with Boothand Hansen already under contract I think it was a bad signing
- Kaptainkesler

We really need a top six forward right now!!!! Send/Waive Booth to the minors or whatever it takes, just get a (frank)in top six guy in here Gillis you stupid fricken idiot!!!

Ok I feel better now.
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 21 @ 8:11 PM ET
what's a newspaper?
- 1970vintage

Oh don't give me that...you're no spring chicken either Mr.
Kaptainkesler
Joined: 02.21.2011

Sep 21 @ 8:12 PM ET
We really need a top six forward right now!!!! Send/Waive Booth to the minors or whatever it takes, just get a (frank)in top six guy in here Gillis you stupid fricken idiot!!!

Ok I feel better now.

- LeftCoaster

The IR route for surgery clears the whole cap hit. And a good game togight gives Shink at least a 9 game audition
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Sep 21 @ 8:12 PM ET
You look at what guys got this summer. The Higgins contract is solid. However with Boothand Hansen already under contract I think it was a bad signing
- Kaptainkesler


Looks like we need another lockout to get those players inline

Sorry, a lot of pent up posts and old rants seeping through. I am glad to a certain extent that Raymond is gone, in my head I always compared him to Hansen, and Hansen is great value and Raymond was overpaid except for his one good season.

Higgins seemed of a similar ilk to Hansen, and his previous contract was great value. Just with the way the salary cap has gone, big stars getting even bigger money, it is hard to pay the bottom 6 and not look for good value-cheap and can play. I guess this is where the youth under entry level contracts should slot in.

I am happy to see Alberts back at that reduced salary and just to have his size in the lineup, even tho he doesn't always play big.

Edit: Booth has to go if he isn't producing, guessing Higgins has put up similar numbers since Booth has been a Canuck.
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 21 @ 8:12 PM ET
its the viagra that's making things blurry,
- Kaptainkesler

not there yet my friend.
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 21 @ 8:14 PM ET
The IR route for surgery clears the whole cap hit. And a good game togight gives Shink at least a 9 game audition
- Kaptainkesler

I hope he plays well.
Kaptainkesler
Joined: 02.21.2011

Sep 21 @ 8:14 PM ET
Looks like we need another lockout to get those players inline

Sorry, a lot of pent up posts and old rants seeping through. I am glad to a certain extent that Raymond is gone, in my head I always compared him to Hansen, and Hansen is great value and Raymond was overpaid except for his one good season.

Higgins seemed of a similar ilk to Hansen, and his previous contract was great value. Just with the way the salary cap has gone, big stars getting even bigger money, it is hard to pay the bottom 6 and not look for good value-cheap and can play. I guess this is where the youth under entry level contracts should slot in.

I am happy to see Alberts back at that reduced salary and just to have his size in the lineup, even tho he doesn't always play big.

- hillbillydeluxe

Big surprise the owners keep handing out crazy contracts. The people that supported the owners should have their head examined
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Sep 21 @ 8:15 PM ET
The IR route for surgery clears the whole cap hit. And a good game togight gives Shink at least a 9 game audition
- Kaptainkesler


More cap room doesn't equal a top 6 forward. We had a few options in the summer but those have gone. We'll need a trade to get a top 6 guy and it'll take a bit.
Kaptainkesler
Joined: 02.21.2011

Sep 21 @ 8:17 PM ET
More cap room doesn't equal a top 6 forward. We had a few options in the summer but those have gone. We'll need a trade to get a top 6 guy and it'll take a bit.
- AlexF

I'm perfectly fine giving a few young guys a shot. See what we got
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 21 @ 8:17 PM ET
I think FA was all over giving Lou that contract and felt responsible for it. FA has to answer to big poppa. I don't even know if Gillis wanted Torts (was it his first choice of available replacements?) or if that was FA too.

edit: If MG and FA were talking before Nonis was actually let go, who knows what plans were made for the team and management structure. I am guessing FA is used to getting his own way.

- hillbillydeluxe


Quite possibly it was FA pushing for that contract from what we hear and see. Gillis and AV definitely were the ones who "collectively decided to go with CS as their starter moving forward" as AV and Gillis liked to say regarding this topic. If what you say is true about FA's finger prints all over Lu's contract, then Gillis and AV certainly didnt see eye to eye with FA... and the Luongo fiasco has been nothing but problems. From the owners eyes it must be a case of holding management responsible not Luongo or himself.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 21 @ 8:18 PM ET
Who's going to forecheck for turnovers on that line? Edler?
- Kaptainkesler


There won't be any turnovers, they'll all be in the back of the opposition net
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 21 @ 8:20 PM ET
More cap room doesn't equal a top 6 forward. We had a few options in the summer but those have gone. We'll need a trade to get a top 6 guy and it'll take a bit.
- AlexF


Lu for Stamkos?
Kaptainkesler
Joined: 02.21.2011

Sep 21 @ 8:20 PM ET
There won't be any turnovers, they'll all be in the back of the opposition net
- 1970vintage

Is that u Ian?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 21 @ 8:20 PM ET
More cap room doesn't equal a top 6 forward. We had a few options in the summer but those have gone. We'll need a trade to get a top 6 guy and it'll take a bit.
- AlexF


Thank you, Alex! Most keep assuming that with cap space that suddenly a top 6 forward that fits the team and won't have a bad contract will magically appear on the roster. UFA bidding is crazy and trades aren't easy in a cap world.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Sep 21 @ 8:21 PM ET
Big surprise the owners keep handing out crazy contracts. The people that supported the owners should have their head examined
- Kaptainkesler


I think the salary cap may have hurt the poorer teams more than it has helped. They have to spend to the floor. If there wasn't a floor, and there was a luxury tax or w/e, there might be more disparity, but I think the poorer teams could ice some lineups with the scraps and, I dunno. Just hate the cap and all the bs circumvention and favored teams getting away with it. (Pronger)
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 21 @ 8:22 PM ET
Is that u Ian?
- Kaptainkesler


Was it my avatar that gave it away?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 21 @ 8:24 PM ET
Vokoun out with blood clot, Luongo for Fleury?
Kaptainkesler
Joined: 02.21.2011

Sep 21 @ 8:26 PM ET
Vokoun out with blood clot, Luongo for Fleury?
- 1970vintage

IMHo that's a great deal for both clubs. Not gonna happen though
Kaptainkesler
Joined: 02.21.2011

Sep 21 @ 8:27 PM ET
Was it my avatar that gave it away?
- 1970vintage

I do think its odd you have a avatar of David Clarkson
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Sep 21 @ 8:31 PM ET
Lu for Stamkos?
- 1970vintage


Lu for St Louis

Fcuk it, Lu + Edler for St Luois

Burrows-Kesler-St Louis

Now that's a real 2nd line!
Kaptainkesler
Joined: 02.21.2011

Sep 21 @ 8:36 PM ET
Lu for St Louis

Fcuk it, Lu + Edler for St Luois

Burrows-Kesler-St Louis

Now that's a real 2nd line!

- AlexF

Meh, I drafted Bishop in the 2nd last round
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Sep 21 @ 8:36 PM ET
Quite possibly it was FA pushing for that contract from what we hear and see. Gillis and AV definitely were the ones who "collectively decided to go with CS as their starter moving forward" as AV and Gillis liked to say regarding this topic. If what you say is true about FA's finger prints all over Lu's contract, then Gillis and AV certainly didnt see eye to eye with FA... and the Luongo fiasco has been nothing but problems. From the owners eyes it must be a case of holding management responsible not Luongo or himself.
- boonerbuck


Just thought GMMG was all about reasonable term like the Sedins contract that was signed around that time. We/me expect the Sedins to retire Canucks, but Luongo is signed to this long contract and I am sure there was included a headstone with his name on it and plot reserved in the goalie graveyard.

MG had to get special permission to offer that contract to Luongo if FA or ownership weren't the ones offering it in the first place.

I don't think there was a collective decision to go with Schneider - but I really have nothing to back that up. Can't really see how AV in that French interview the summer before could have said Schneider was the guy and Luongo was on the block. It was all so mismanaged, I can't understand how it got to where we are now - just poor management of the situation and Luongo didn't help with his comments either, hey lets trade for the guy who says his contract sucks!

If Luongo was traded, it wouldn't have been long for Schneider to have a stinker (happens to every goalie now and then) and had fans saying the wrong goalie was traded. Anyway, I think FA and family are into hockey and into the way the Canucks are run, which can be both good and bad for the club.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 21 @ 8:39 PM ET
Hey Vantel, remember when we were calling for MG to pick up Jussi Jokinen (pretty much for free) when we had the chance? Yeah, he scored a natural hat-trick today.
- AlexF

I do remember and so was I
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 21 @ 8:46 PM ET
So is Vantel
- A_SteamingLombardi



You know me well
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