I would, when the comment made was incredibly accurate, and summed up one of the major problems with the team. Whether you like or don't like, respect or don't respect Milbury. He was 100% correct. And that's all that matters. And that Milbury isn't exactly a Hockey genius is really part of the point. But maybe you missed that. But yet he knew it. And that reckless aggressiveness went on and on. Game after game, after game. So regardless of whether you think it's the players or the Coach, the responsibility still falls on the Coach to correct it.
- MJL

I think it shows that the problem was so obvious that even a knucklehead like Milbury could recognize it.

I remember that game well. The Flyers were out of control and Milbury was 100% right.

I think it shows that the problem was so obvious that even a knucklehead like Milbury could recognize it.
- MBFlyerfan

Or, more likely, it shows that a guy who is known to jump to lazy, superficial conclusions, is just following his M.O. and trying to wrap a multi-faceted problem into one thoughtless sound-byte.

Is Lavi perfect? Of course not. There's always room for refinement under any system or method. He made adjustments at the beginning and end of the year, so let's not pretend that he's up in some ivory tower.

And, as Jsaq put so nicely, it's not like the players were playing their best and were simply victims of a dysfunctional system... they deserved at least an equal share of the blame, if not more.

Or, more likely, it shows that a guy who is known to jump to lazy, superficial conclusions, is just following his M.O. and trying to wrap a multi-faceted problem into one thoughtless sound-byte.

Is Lavi perfect? Of course not. There's always room for refinement under any system or method. He made adjustments at the beginning and end of the year, so let's not pretend that he's up in some ivory tower.

And, as Jsaq put so nicely, it's not like the players were playing their best and were simply victims of a dysfunctional system... they deserved at least an equal share of the blame, if not more.
- Tomahawk

I never said anything of the sort. But the fact remains the Flyers do play recklessly aggressive. They are always going in deep on the fore check regardless of the situation, and it results in easy outs for the opposition with forwards caught deep.

They have no neutral zone defensive presence and most nights allow easy access in to their own zone because the forwards are chasing the play.

They dont come up ice as a unit when exiting their own zone because the forwards dont pay attention to gap control due the aggressiveness.

Sure the players could execute better, but I think last season showed that when you dont have the personnel to play this system, the system needs to be adjusted.

Hopefully the addition of Striet helps along with Gusty. We shall see.

But in the end, when every player is doing it game in and game out, one must come to the conclusion that this is the way they are being told to play.

Like the signing of Read. Like G I wished they could've save 125-250K because it adds up, but im Ok with the years and numbers.

Or, more likely, it shows that a guy who is known to jump to lazy, superficial conclusions, is just following his M.O. and trying to wrap a multi-faceted problem into one thoughtless sound-byte.

Is Lavi perfect? Of course not. There's always room for refinement under any system or method. He made adjustments at the beginning and end of the year, so let's not pretend that he's up in some ivory tower.

And, as Jsaq put so nicely, it's not like the players were playing their best and were simply victims of a dysfunctional system... they deserved at least an equal share of the blame, if not more.
- Tomahawk

To be fair, I do place more blame on Laviolette, mainly for not making the adjustments sooner than he did.

Round six in Buffalo....

now eight

To be fair, I do place more blame on Laviolette, mainly for not making the adjustments sooner than he did.
- Jsaquella

And to be fair as well, Lava is certainly far from blameless. He, like his players, needs to accept his share in last year's failures.

Round nine!

round ten!

ELEVEN!!!

Twelve

Shooters 0 for 22

Zero for 24 shooters!

zero for 26 in to round 14

Round 15! Still no goals in 28 shooter attempts

TO wins on shot # 30

TO wins on shot # 30

- MBFlyerfan

woah

TO wins on shot # 30

- MBFlyerfan

Wow...

Hey bill have you heard anything more about a possible trade coming up or what they plan on doing with Hal Gill? And do you agree with Tim P about using Read as trade bait next season now that he is under contract?

Or, more likely, it shows that a guy who is known to jump to lazy, superficial conclusions, is just following his M.O. and trying to wrap a multi-faceted problem into one thoughtless sound-byte.

Is Lavi perfect? Of course not. There's always room for refinement under any system or method. He made adjustments at the beginning and end of the year, so let's not pretend that he's up in some ivory tower.

And, as Jsaq put so nicely, it's not like the players were playing their best and were simply victims of a dysfunctional system... they deserved at least an equal share of the blame, if not more.
- Tomahawk

That ignores the fact that he was absolutely 100% correct. Nor was the statement thoughtless. To dismiss the characterization of the team that Milbury made, because of who made it. That's what's thoughtless here. Ignore the messge, even if it's correct, because you don't like the guy who made it. Milbury was simply giving a general description of how the Flyers play, and wasn't going into a full analysis of why they play that way. So to call Milbury's comments lazy and superficial, is way off base. Not to mention that you follow up with superficial comments on the Flyers in your own reply. Laviolette did not make adjustments at the beginning of the year. He made a minor change to defensive zone coverage mid way through the Season. And when he made changes to the forecheck scheme, it was way too late. The majority of the blame for how the Season played out falls on the Coach in my opinion. He failed to tailor his style of play to the personnel, and failed to adjust. The players are not without blame. There were plenty of individual player errors. But it begins and ends with the Coach.

I never said anything of the sort. But the fact remains the Flyers do play recklessly aggressive. They are always going in deep on the fore check regardless of the situation, and it results in easy outs for the opposition with forwards caught deep.

They have no neutral zone defensive presence and most nights allow easy access in to their own zone because the forwards are chasing the play.

They dont come up ice as a unit when exiting their own zone because the forwards dont pay attention to gap control due the aggressiveness.

Sure the players could execute better, but I think last season showed that when you dont have the personnel to play this system, the system needs to be adjusted.

Hopefully the addition of Striet helps along with Gusty. We shall see.

But in the end, when every player is doing it game in and game out, one must come to the conclusion that this is the way they are being told to play.
- MBFlyerfan

The last sentence says it all. You couldn't possibly come to a different conclusion. As an example that was given previously by a poster. Defenseman such as Grossmann and Schenn, who aren't known for their fleet of foot, nor are they known to be players who gamble on the puck. Are suddenly moving up on the play and pinching aggressively in the offensive zone. But we're led to believe that they are making an individual decision to remake their game and how they play? That's just common sense. They're being told to do so. It's not bad decision making on the players part. It's what the Coach wants. Like you said, when every player on the team is playing the same way. There is only one conclusion that can be drawn. this team is always on the offensive side of the puck, and it's done recklessly. It has to change. And it starts and ends with the guy behind the bench.

I think it shows that the problem was so obvious that even a knucklehead like Milbury could recognize it.
- MBFlyerfan

Which is part of the point in why I used the example. That went over the head of some.