scotch_tape
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Location: he's coming Joined: 07.26.2012
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Kessel, Kadri, Gardiner, Bolland, Lupul, Phaneuf, Kulemin, Liles (for what it's worth), and JVR... no big deal.
I should have been more clear; the leafs are built for muscle or speed.
- A_Tree
not quite sure what that list is to be honest... outside of the first three, none of those guys are considered fast. at least not outside Toronto. |
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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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you honestly think that this shift from fast/finesse team to brute team isn't sacrificing the overall team speed?
the defence is slow. there's no arguing that.
the forwards are a mixed bag. Kessel, Kadri, Raymond are fast guys. outside of them, no one is particularly fast, and some are actually quite slow.
i'm not even saying this as a criticism. it could very well be that they're a better overall team. - scotch_tape
Kulemin, Lupul, JVR..... missed a bunch of speed guys.
The myth that they loaded up on size and brute at the expense of speed is just that.
They removed Frattin, MacArthur, Grabo
and added Clarkson, Bolland, and Potentially raymond.
Didn't lose as much speed as you're making out to be. |
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A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON Joined: 05.06.2011
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you honestly think that this shift from fast/finesse team to brute team isn't sacrificing the overall team speed?
the defence is slow. there's no arguing that.
the forwards are a mixed bag. Kessel, Kadri, Raymond are fast guys. outside of them, no one is particularly fast, and some are actually quite slow.
i'm not even saying this as a criticism. it could very well be that they're a better overall team. - scotch_tape
It's tough to say. Seriously.
When you watched Sundin skate in his prime, because he's so big it appeared that he was moving slower than others but he was relatively fast.
Kulemin has a similar stride.
Anyway I agree, overall we sacrificed speed for muscle. You can't have everything... (unless you're the Blackhawks)
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scotch_tape
Carolina Hurricanes |
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Location: he's coming Joined: 07.26.2012
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They were a grazed goalpost away from losing it to a younger, faster team that had clearly undressed their D core in the latter part of the series.
If they meet the Leafs in the playoffs this year, they won't have to worry about wearing down again, because it will be over for them long before game 7. - The Shrike
i'm sure it would be |
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Not_Stee
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: You only say that because people aren't willing to pay more at your place to watch it in 3D... Joined: 08.07.2013
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you honestly think that this shift from fast/finesse team to brute team isn't sacrificing the overall team speed?
the defence is slow. there's no arguing that.
the forwards are a mixed bag. Kessel, Kadri, Raymond are fast guys. outside of them, no one is particularly fast, and some are actually quite slow.
i'm not even saying this as a criticism. it could very well be that they're a better overall team. - scotch_tape
Sadly, most won't notice this compliment.
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A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON Joined: 05.06.2011
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not quite sure what that list is to be honest... outside of the first three, none of those guys are considered fast. at least not outside Toronto. - scotch_tape
How not? The first three are definitely fast, Lupul and Kulemin are fast too. I'll concede JVR and Bolland are not fast by comparison to "speedy" teams. |
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A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON Joined: 05.06.2011
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Sadly, most won't notice this compliment. - Not_Stee
I'll admit it escaped me... |
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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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not quite sure what that list is to be honest... outside of the first three, none of those guys are considered fast. at least not outside Toronto. - scotch_tape
That's utter BS....... Kulemin won the Leafs skating drill and his time was up there with other times. He's not slow, and saying he's not fast is beyond clueless.
JVR and Lupul are also fast, and yes outside of TO. |
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The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 11.17.2007
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Iam not ignoring it i fear it ,but Methot and Cowen will not be dropping the gloves with 4th line goons they will be in battle with the best toronto has as forwards.See Kadri,Kessel,Lupul etc. - top shelf 15
Hence the acquisition of Clarkson, who will be playing on those lines.
Nonis learned something from that Flyers game. |
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Not_Stee
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: You only say that because people aren't willing to pay more at your place to watch it in 3D... Joined: 08.07.2013
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I'll admit it escaped me... - A_Tree
The fact that he's a Hab fan usually makes most Leafers automatically assume "TROLL".
He's an okay guy actually. |
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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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Jonas Siegel @jonasTSN1050 6m
Projected D: Gunnarsson-Phaneuf. Ranger-Gardiner. Fraser-Percy. Reimer starts.
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Rockhead_37
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Bolton, ON Joined: 09.11.2010
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I think it all goes together, a good goaltender gives the D confidence to start moving the disc forward, which gets the ball rolling. A bad goaltender on the other hand, can completely paralyze the D, which gets them trapped in their own end, which compounds the problem.
Ottawa and Toronto both have mobile D, by design, since this seems to be the model for success in the NHL going forward.
With Anderson behind him, Karlsson has more leeway joining, or leading, the rush, which makes Ottawa a more dangerous team to play against.
Likewise, in Toronto, the addition of Bernier, with his puck handling skills, will embolden guys like Gardiner now, and Rielly in the near future, to do the same. - The Shrike
are you trying to confuse everyone on purpose?
shall they reply with a flying frisbie reference? or a baseball or basketball reference, or are you in fact talking hockey. |
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Hence the acquisition of Clarkson, who will be playing on those lines.
Nonis learned something from that Flyers game. - The Shrike Clarkson ,will not be the target it will be Kadri .And while clarkson is a good add to make room for kadri ,he will be in the penality box quite a bit
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A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON Joined: 05.06.2011
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A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON Joined: 05.06.2011
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The fact that he's a Hab fan usually makes most Leafers automatically assume "TROLL".
He's an okay guy actually. - Not_Stee
I hang out on Engles thread from time to time.
I know his MO.
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A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON Joined: 05.06.2011
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Jonas Siegel @jonasTSN1050 6m
Projected D: Gunnarsson-Phaneuf. Ranger-Gardiner. Fraser-Percy. Reimer starts.
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Nice. Getting closer to seeing the opening day lineups. |
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poohcrumbs
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I think Loov is going to become another Lidstrom- matt1337 Joined: 09.12.2009
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not quite sure what that list is to be honest... outside of the first three, none of those guys are considered fast. at least not outside Toronto. - scotch_tape
Seems to get by with what he has
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The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 11.17.2007
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i'm sure it would be - scotch_tape
Their best bet would be to avoid us at all costs going down the stretch, otherwise the beating will be somewhere in line with the one they gave Crosby and company last season. |
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Nice. Getting closer to seeing the opening day lineups. - A_Tree
Yep...Looks good to me... |
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poohcrumbs
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I think Loov is going to become another Lidstrom- matt1337 Joined: 09.12.2009
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First Im gonna watch the Leafs punch the Sabres ticket in, then Bones Jones split the swedes wig |
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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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Seems to get by with what he has
- poohcrumbs
was that vid in slow mo? |
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poohcrumbs
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I think Loov is going to become another Lidstrom- matt1337 Joined: 09.12.2009
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was that vid in slow mo? - burn
No they are playing in quicksand |
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The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 11.17.2007
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Clarkson ,will not be the target it will be Kadri .And while clarkson is a good add to make room for kadri ,he will be in the penality box quite a bit
- top shelf 15
That's the point though, while it's nice that Clarkson will score 20 goals, the room that he garners on the ice for his skilled linemates will pay even greater dividends.
If that doesn't do the trick, then the mutual assured destruction method of dealing with teams that go after your skilled players always works:
They go after Kadri, we go after Spezza or Karlsson.
Questionable tactic...yes, hurts your team in the short run....yes, helps your team in the long run once the tactic is established...also yes. |
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The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 11.17.2007
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are you trying to confuse everyone on purpose?
shall they reply with a flying frisbie reference? or a baseball or basketball reference, or are you in fact talking hockey. - Rockhead_37
Avoiding repetition, talking hockey. |
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Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON Joined: 10.25.2011
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First Im gonna watch the Leafs punch the Sabres ticket in, then Bones Jones split the swedes wig - poohcrumbs
poop is that tonight? You mean I gotta stop playing GTA? |
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