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djamon
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 05.27.2013

Sep 19 @ 7:06 PM ET
The three Oilers missed a half year by default because of the lockout. so this doesnt work.
- Jack-artist


Fair enough.

Tavares has missed 3 games in his entire career. Hall has missed 41 in 3 years, RNH has missed 28 in 2 years (with more to come).

This is why you guys keep throwing out PPG instead of points to bolster your arguments. This isn't a terrible contract because RNH is a bad player....we know he's not. It's because he has huge health risks which have really hurt his development.

It's terrible not because RNH won't be worth it one day, but because it was entirely unnecessary and premature. Let's just call it Oiler tax and move on.
woopstash
Los Angeles Kings
Location: "Rielly and Gardiner will be the next Keith and Seabrook."
Joined: 02.22.2011

Sep 19 @ 7:07 PM ET
Amazing that Oiler fans think this.
- systemtool


They've always had a soft spot for Lupul.
Jack-artist
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Yakapoo is khl bound. After t, AB
Joined: 01.27.2010

Sep 19 @ 7:07 PM ET
Exactly.
- systemtool

Exactly what? I said that its not fair to use Tavares' point totals by year to compare because the oter three were victims of the lockout. Then you said something about playoffs and Tavares being better and none of it was related to what I said.
DrinkOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Playoffs,Playoffs?!? I jus wanna win some games, AB
Joined: 06.19.2010

Sep 19 @ 7:07 PM ET
No, Crosby has won Cups and scoring titles. Have Hall and the rest of the poonhounds?
- systemtool


A lady bing for sure, and maybe a calder or two,

oh and 1960
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Sep 19 @ 7:08 PM ET
Tavares 202 pts after 3 years, Hall - 145
Tavares 121 pts after 2 years, RNH - 76
Tavares 54 pts after 1 year, Yak - 31

I'm sure you wanna talk about PPG pace, but they gotta play the games for their points to count. And your guys have had real trouble staying on the ice.

- djamon


Tavares 195 pts after 2013 - 159
Tavares 148 pts after 2012, Crosby - 103
Tavares 67 pts after 2011, Crosby - 66

Tavares >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Crosby
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 19 @ 7:08 PM ET
Exactly what? I said that its not fair to use Tavares' point totals by year to compare because the oter three were victims of the lockout. Then you said something about playoffs and Tavares being better and none of it was related to what I said.
- Jack-artist


No. This was about injuries, not lockouts. But exactly that, nonetheless. Denial and deflection.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Sep 19 @ 7:08 PM ET
Most overated player in the nhl is easily
Tavares and Datsyuk

- Oilers42


Yup.
woopstash
Los Angeles Kings
Location: "Rielly and Gardiner will be the next Keith and Seabrook."
Joined: 02.22.2011

Sep 19 @ 7:09 PM ET
Fair enough.

Tavares has missed 3 games in his entire career. Hall has missed 41 in 3 years, RNH has missed 28 in 2 years (with more to come).

This is why you guys keep throwing out PPG instead of points to bolster your arguments. This isn't a terrible contract because RNH is a bad player....we know he's not. It's because he has huge health risks which have really hurt his development.

It's terrible not because RNH won't be worth it one day, but because it was entirely unnecessary and premature. Let's just call it Oiler tax and move on.

- djamon


In my opinion it's terrible because the Oilers held all the bargaining chips and decided to just throw that away and offer him a big contract. He still has a year left. Let him go and show this season that hopefully he IS a $6 million/year player. Doesn't make sense.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 19 @ 7:09 PM ET
Tavares 195 pts after 2013 - 159
Tavares 148 pts after 2012, Crosby - 103
Tavares 67 pts after 2011, Crosby - 66

- laughs2907


As of today and Crosby's injury issues, I would take Tavares over him.
DrinkOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Playoffs,Playoffs?!? I jus wanna win some games, AB
Joined: 06.19.2010

Sep 19 @ 7:09 PM ET
Fair enough.

Tavares has missed 3 games in his entire career. Hall has missed 41 in 3 years, RNH has missed 28 in 2 years (with more to come).

This is why you guys keep throwing out PPG instead of points to bolster your arguments. This isn't a terrible contract because RNH is a bad player....we know he's not. It's because he has huge health risks which have really hurt his development.

It's terrible not because RNH won't be worth it one day, but because it was entirely unnecessary and premature. Let's just call it Oiler tax and move on.

- djamon



a fair argument, try and use the same logic and understand the wave of 6 mil dollar men dominating the league for yrs to come
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Sep 19 @ 7:09 PM ET
RNH scored 4 goals last year
- jimbro83



wow, people are stupid. Anyone who has a problem with this contract knows (frank) all about RNH, the Oilers, and hockey in general.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Sep 19 @ 7:10 PM ET
By being better.
- systemtool


How?
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 19 @ 7:10 PM ET
A lady bing for sure, and maybe a calder or two,

oh and 1960

- DrinkOil


Fantastic. Where did the Oilers finish that year?
djamon
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 05.27.2013

Sep 19 @ 7:10 PM ET
Tavares 195 pts after 2013 - 159
Tavares 148 pts after 2012, Crosby - 103
Tavares 67 pts after 2011, Crosby - 66

- laughs2907


I don't know what this stat represents. Are you saying Crosby has those points totals? Using extremes is a sign of desperation.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 19 @ 7:11 PM ET
How?
- laughs2907


By being better and healthier.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Sep 19 @ 7:11 PM ET
Oh (frank), nice math.
- Jack-artist


Especially consider Yak played in a shortened season
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 19 @ 7:11 PM ET
wow, people are stupid. Anyone who has a problem with this contract knows (frank) all about RNH, the Oilers, and hockey in general.
- SpoiledByOil


Especially the GM.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Sep 19 @ 7:12 PM ET
I don't know what this stat represents. Are you saying Crosby has those points totals? Using extremes is a sign of desperation.
- djamon


If you cannot figure that post out, there is no hope for you. Sorry.
woopstash
Los Angeles Kings
Location: "Rielly and Gardiner will be the next Keith and Seabrook."
Joined: 02.22.2011

Sep 19 @ 7:12 PM ET
Tavares 195 pts after 2013 - 159
Tavares 148 pts after 2012, Crosby - 103
Tavares 67 pts after 2011, Crosby - 66

Tavares >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Crosby

- laughs2907


Lupul - 1.02 points/game after 2012. Toews - .97
Lupul - 1.12 points/game after 2013. Toews - 1.02

Lupul >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Toews
DrinkOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Playoffs,Playoffs?!? I jus wanna win some games, AB
Joined: 06.19.2010

Sep 19 @ 7:12 PM ET
Fantastic. Where did the Oilers finish that year?
- systemtool



The oil have won more cups per yr during Their exsistence, then any other team I appoligize for the yrs we did not exsist perfusely.
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Sep 19 @ 7:12 PM ET
My IQ dropped reading these comments, (frank) me people are (frank)ing stupid.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 19 @ 7:13 PM ET
The oil have won more cups per yr during Their exsistence, then any other team I appoligize for the yrs we did not exsist perfusely.
- DrinkOil


The Leafs won more Cups than the Oilers period. I apologize you cant compare or that you werent relevant sooner. And that you're bitter.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 19 @ 7:13 PM ET
Lupul - 1.02 points/game after 2012. Toews - .97
Lupul - 1.12 points/game after 2013. Toews - 1.02

Lupul >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Toews

- woopstash



Yeah, you can't make arguments entirely based on point totals or PPG. You have to factor in linemates, shooting %'s, zone starts, PP time and the quality of competition faced.
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Sep 19 @ 7:14 PM ET
like this one. Seriously kid, how do you even function in the real world being this stupid?
- SpoiledByOil


apparently he knows best.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Sep 19 @ 7:14 PM ET
did you believe this as u wrote it?
- DrinkOil


He compares a full rookie season (for Tavares) versus a shortened season for Yak... Seems fair
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