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Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Sep 19 @ 5:49 PM ET
oh yeah, because anytime the Rangers have signed someone to a crazy contract we haven't had Oiler fans come into our blog and yap about it.

NAH NEVER HAPPENS

- jimbro83

Then tell your ref about it.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Sep 19 @ 5:49 PM ET
I bet he's going to be absolutely insane this year.
- laughs2907

9 points in game one.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Sep 19 @ 5:51 PM ET
Handing out this type of money to a kid who is coming off a 4 goal season and has played 100 games in the NHL is ridiculous.
- iknowbest

Personally I hate these deals, but it doesn't matter because it's how the NHL operates now. Guys are getting screwed when they are older so they are making sure they get these deals earlier now. As Barrie Dunn would say 'it's the way she goes'
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Sep 19 @ 5:51 PM ET
Tavares hype hype hype

Rnh has similar numbers. Hall actually has better numbers thus far.

"Psshh whatever. Tavares is wayyy better than either of em"

- hugefemale dog77



go look at my post. RNH does NOT have similar numbers. Even if you project his numbers at double for the shortened season that's 8 goals. A little shy of 29.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Sep 19 @ 5:51 PM ET
Yoda you don't know best.
- Lahey

Guess you don know what a comma does hey there sport.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Sep 19 @ 5:51 PM ET
No it dosent, go back and get me some qoutes for proof.
- FiretheGM


oh yeah sure, nobody has ever complained on hockeybuzz about the Rangers spending money.
FiretheGM
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.16.2011

Sep 19 @ 5:51 PM ET
folding? you need to get your facts straight. There was, at no time, ever, a situation the Isles were going to fold.

and ps:

John Tavares first 2 years:

2009-10 New York Islanders NHL 82 24 30 54 22 -14 -- -- -- -- --
2010-11 New York Islanders NHL 79 29 38 67 53 -16 -- -- -- -- --


RNH
2011-12 Edmonton Oilers NHL 62 18 34 52 16 -2 -- -- -- -- --
2012-13 Oklahoma City Barons AHL 19 8 12 20 6 7 -- -- -- -- --
2012-13 Edmonton Oilers NHL 40 4 20 24 8 3 -- -- -- -- --



then consider linemates.

RNH makes MORE than Tavares.

If RNH is nominated for the Hart in 2 years you can compare them. This is way too much money for a guy who hasn't proven himself yet.

Hall, sure, he deserves it. Eberle as well. RNH? Good player, need more history to work from. A 2 year deal at 4 per would have been a lot more reasonable

- Isles_since_6


Yes, NYI are the prime of the prime, have all the money in world.
iknowbest
Seattle Kraken
Location: I believe in unicorns, santa c
Joined: 08.28.2012

Sep 19 @ 5:51 PM ET


I was joking. This was our first blog with outsiders commenting and I thought you were hiding behind the tree waiting for the dust to settle. I like trolls.

- Lahey


Nobody is trolling here. As far as I can tell this is a thread about the Oilers signing RNH to a big contract. Some people like it, others don't. I don't like it cause it sends a message to any kid who has a good rookie season that they are suddenly worth a huge contract.
Jack-artist
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Yakapoo is khl bound. After t, AB
Joined: 01.27.2010

Sep 19 @ 5:52 PM ET
go look at my post. RNH does NOT have similar numbers. Even if you project his numbers at double for the shortened season that's 8 goals. A little shy of 29.
- Isles_since_6

Assists dont count as points?
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Sep 19 @ 5:52 PM ET
No it dosent, go back and get me some qoutes for proof.
- FiretheGM

I ripped on them long and hard over Redden, but that was warranted. When a guy talks about getting more year and more money than any one else was close to offering and then says at the end they offered a NTC, then ya it deserves ripping.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Sep 19 @ 5:52 PM ET
Personally I hate these deals, but it doesn't matter because it's how the NHL operates now. Guys are getting screwed when they are older so they are making sure they get these deals earlier now. As Barrie Dunn would say 'it's the way she goes'
- Lahey


but RNH has a contract for this coming season and the Oilers literally had no reason to do this now.


Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Sep 19 @ 5:53 PM ET
Guess you don know what a comma does hey there sport.
- Yeti1181

For (frank) sakes man
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Sep 19 @ 5:53 PM ET
The question is he significantly better than JT was after his second year? Keep in mind, RNH has shoulder problems...yet they still put up the same PPG.
- Blackstrom2


He's not. Tavares is criminally overrated...
FiretheGM
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.16.2011

Sep 19 @ 5:53 PM ET
oh yeah sure, nobody has ever complained on hockeybuzz about the Rangers spending money.

- jimbro83

Not from an oilers fan. Please give me proof. I think you know im right.
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Sep 19 @ 5:54 PM ET
Yes, NYI are the prime of the prime, have all the money in world.
- FiretheGM



Yes, but why wasn't 5.5 mil/yr considered way too much for a guy who had yet to prove anything?

If RNH's contract was 5.5 mil/yr, would all of you even be arguing this? I really don't see how anyone can say this is a bad contract. I don't think he is going to Daigle.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Sep 19 @ 5:54 PM ET
Not from an oilers fan. Please give me proof. I think you know im right.
- FiretheGM


you know, I'll check through the hockeybuzz databases when I have some free time and get back to you
iknowbest
Seattle Kraken
Location: I believe in unicorns, santa c
Joined: 08.28.2012

Sep 19 @ 5:54 PM ET
but RNH has a contract for this coming season and the Oilers literally had no reason to do this now.
- jimbro83


That's another thing I don't understand. Why not just wait to see how this season goes? If he puts together another solid year then pay him the $6 million per. What if he's below average again? Doesn't make a lot of sense.
FiretheGM
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.16.2011

Sep 19 @ 5:54 PM ET
but RNH has a contract for this coming season and the Oilers literally had no reason to do this now.
- jimbro83

Like i said before, it is all about respect for the player.
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Sep 19 @ 5:55 PM ET
but RNH has a contract for this coming season and the Oilers literally had no reason to do this now.
- jimbro83

..Unless he has a huge year, and then in which the cap hit would be much higher.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Sep 19 @ 5:55 PM ET
For (frank) sakes man
- Lahey

(frank)ing iPad piece of poop (frank)
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Sep 19 @ 5:55 PM ET
That's another thing I don't understand. Why not just wait to see how this season goes? If he puts together another solid year then pay him the $6 million per. What if he's below average again? Doesn't make a lot of sense.
- iknowbest


it's outright retarded is what it is


Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Sep 19 @ 5:56 PM ET
but RNH has a contract for this coming season and the Oilers literally had no reason to do this now.
- jimbro83

Neither did Colorado with Landeskog. Why did Carolina do it with Skinner? Winnipeg with kane? Amongst others. Like it or not this is how things are going with the new CBA. Wait til Subban gets paid, Gm's will really be thinking twice about those bridge deals.

You have to remember GM's don't care about long-term implications, a lot of them will be dead before the contracts they hand out expire.

Players also lost there right to 55 year deals so now they are really going for all in as soon as possible.
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Sep 19 @ 5:56 PM ET
That's another thing I don't understand. Why not just wait to see how this season goes? If he puts together another solid year then pay him the $6 million per. What if he's below average again? Doesn't make a lot of sense.
- iknowbest

Why didn't the Islanders wait to see how the third season would go?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Sep 19 @ 5:56 PM ET
..Unless he has a huge year, and then in which the cap hit would be much higher.
- Blackstrom2


not really because he won't have a huge year without Taylor Hall having a huge year along with him, in that case they wouldn't give him more than Hall anyway
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Sep 19 @ 5:57 PM ET
Neither did Colorado with Landeskog. Why did Carolina do it with Skinner? Winnipeg with kane? Amongst others. Like it or not this is how things are going with the new CBA. Wait til Subban gets paid, Gm's will really be thinking twice about those bridge deals.

You have to remember GM's don't care about long-term implications, a lot of them will be dead before the contracts they hand out expire.

Players also lost there right to 55 year deals so now they are really going for all in as soon as possible.

- Lahey


I tore that contract to shreds too
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