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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Sep 19 @ 2:34 PM ET
You might be right on Ghost taking longer/being less of a sure thing, but I love a guy with a big shot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93LWjEtsWIQ
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Sep 19 @ 2:35 PM ET
You might be right on Ghost taking longer/being less of a sure thing, but I love a guy with a big shot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93LWjEtsWIQ

- Feanor


Ghost's nickname..... The Toy Cannon.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Sep 19 @ 2:36 PM ET
Hopefully. Could be wishful thinking. Flyers haven't developed a homegrown d-man in ages, to expect all three of these players to pan out might be unrealistic.

I think Gostisbehere is too small. Perhaps he could be a Freddy Meyer type.

- PLindbergh31


I don't think there was as much hope surrounding Freddy as Ghost. Maybe there was and I just don't remember.

Ghost is already an excellent skater with a great shot from the point.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Sep 19 @ 2:37 PM ET
Pronger isn't healthy, thank God Meszaros and Grossmann are made of titanium to make up for it.
- PLindbergh31

Putting on the Orange jersey instantly reduces one's durability 20%

FACT
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Sep 19 @ 2:39 PM ET
You might be right on Ghost taking longer/being less of a sure thing, but I love a guy with a big shot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93LWjEtsWIQ

- Feanor


He already has a better slapshot than most of the current dmen
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Sep 19 @ 2:39 PM ET
Putting on the Orange jersey instantly reduces one's durability 20%

FACT

- KINGKENZO

Not to mention a -1 penalty to charisma (Pronger is naturally immune to this effect).
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Sep 19 @ 2:39 PM ET
With a healthy Pronger, they wouldn't have traded for Grossmann. This is pointless to argue. The cap needs to be viewed as a whole. You can't divide it up in terms of spending certain amounts on each position. They have a young forward group, so they don't cost as much. Hopefully, when the forwards start costing more, the young defenseman come up and contribute. At that point, the team will be spending much more on forwards.
- PhillySportsGuy


Fair enough. Giroux's cap hit goes up almost 5 million next year. There goes the money saved by losing Meszaros.

What if neither goaltender pans out this year? Where will all the money come from to replace Timonen?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Sep 19 @ 2:40 PM ET
Putting on the Orange jersey instantly reduces one's durability 20%

FACT

- KINGKENZO


Only 20%?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Sep 19 @ 2:41 PM ET
Putting on the Orange jersey instantly reduces one's durability 20%

FACT

- KINGKENZO


orange does mean caution
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Sep 19 @ 2:42 PM ET
Fair enough. Giroux's cap hit goes up almost 5 million next year. There goes the money saved by losing Meszaros.

What if neither goaltender pans out this year? Where will all the money come from to replace Timonen?

- PLindbergh31


If both goaltenders implode, which I doubt, I don't think Homer will be around to make the next decision.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Sep 19 @ 2:42 PM ET
Fair enough. Giroux's cap hit goes up almost 5 million next year. There goes the money saved by losing Meszaros.

What if neither goaltender pans out this year? Where will all the money come from to replace Timonen?

- PLindbergh31

Well, the cap is all but certain to go up, so there's some grease for the wheels there. And we can start with using the cap space occupied by Timonen for Timonen's replacement.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Sep 19 @ 2:43 PM ET
Well, the cap is all but certain to go up, so there's some grease for the wheels there. And we can start with using the cap space occupied by Timonen for Timonen's replacement.
- BulliesPhan87


Not true. Flyers don't have any goalies under contract next year.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Sep 19 @ 2:43 PM ET
Fair enough. Giroux's cap hit goes up almost 5 million next year. There goes the money saved by losing Meszaros.

What if neither goaltender pans out this year? Where will all the money come from to replace Timonen?

- PLindbergh31


Well the cap is going up. But I do wish Giroux had done the team a favor and accepted $8m per year or even $7.75m. Timonen and Mesazros will probably have to be replaced by players making half as much.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Sep 19 @ 2:43 PM ET
Only 20%?
- PLindbergh31


that's the average
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Sep 19 @ 2:44 PM ET
Well, the cap is all but certain to go up, so there's some grease for the wheels there. And we can start with using the cap space occupied by Timonen for Timonen's replacement.
- BulliesPhan87

I'm a lot less worried about paying for it than I am about finding it.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Sep 19 @ 2:45 PM ET
Not true. Flyers don't have any goalies under contract next year.
- PLindbergh31


I think Mason is an rfa
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Sep 19 @ 2:45 PM ET
If both goaltenders implode, which I doubt, I don't think Homer will be around to make the next decision.
- PhillySportsGuy


Which scenario is more likely?

A.) The goaltending duo posting a .915+ save %
B.) Mason reverting back to Columbus form, and Emery going down with an injury
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Sep 19 @ 2:45 PM ET
Not true. Flyers don't have any goalies under contract next year.
- PLindbergh31

How is it not true? A bit of cap space also clears up with those goalies' contracts expiring. Something will have to give somewhere, but I agree with MOAT that finding said replacements is the real issue.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Sep 19 @ 2:47 PM ET
How is it not true? A bit of cap space also clears up with those goalies' contracts expiring. Something will have to give somewhere, but I agree with MOAT that finding said replacements is the real issue.
- BulliesPhan87


We shall see. If the goaltenders don't pan out, the Flyers are going to be in bad shape.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 19 @ 2:48 PM ET
Fair enough. Giroux's cap hit goes up almost 5 million next year. There goes the money saved by losing Meszaros.

What if neither goaltender pans out this year? Where will all the money come from to replace Timonen?

- PLindbergh31


I think the better question is "What if one of the goalies plays to Vezina-caliber?" We have some $$ coming off the books, but we also have some raises coming up, and our goalie could look for Bob-type money/term.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Sep 19 @ 2:49 PM ET
Pronger isn't healthy, thank God Meszaros and Grossmann are made of titanium to make up for it.
- PLindbergh31

Too bad the titanium is held together by duct tape...
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Sep 19 @ 2:50 PM ET
Well the cap is going up. But I do wish Giroux had done the team a favor and accepted $8m per year or even $7.75m. Timonen and Mesazros will probably have to be replaced by players making half as much.
- Feanor


You mean Giroux didn't give the Flyers a hometown discount?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Sep 19 @ 2:51 PM ET
Too bad the titanium is held together by duct tape...

- FlyersGrace


Duct tape is somewhat sturdy. Dental floss is more like it.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Sep 19 @ 2:51 PM ET
Ghost's nickname..... The Toy Cannon.
- PLindbergh31

Better than the Glass Cannon
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Sep 19 @ 2:51 PM ET
Not to mention a -1 penalty to charisma (Pronger is naturally immune to this effect).
- BulliesPhan87

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