got to agree with you JJ about a couple of your predictions but for now let em wave their hawk nation pennants , pose with the cup and drink the punch! 82 game season, horse sh it power play & face off %, my bet SB will see it come nov.1st or sooner when all your predictions come to be along with Pirri back in rockford, SB will look out there & deal from strenght & possibly get a true #2 center unless there are some suprises.

I just watched that October game where the Hawks came back for five goals to win against Calgary and i was sort shocked that this was the line up we started with the year we won the Cup. Both Huet (3 quick goals against) and rookie Niemi (with poor glove and open low) sheet the bed.

The guys who love post the stupid line will love this:
Q's lines
Buff - Bolland - Kane
Versteeg- Toews - Sharp
Ladd - Madden- Brouwer
Kopecky - Fraser - Skille

Breathe in and think about that.

...and then move back to now and understand in an Olympic year teams basically have to trust in four lines and whenever the players at the lower end and press box show they can rise to the occasion, the coaching staff almost has to gig ether a bit more chances in roles they may never have been playing in, on the PP, or the high lines.
It becomes a matter of trusting the newly elevated Rockford players and showing the courage to allow them.
But in case you forgot,
After being behind 5-0
Down low Ladd works and wins the wall throws to the point to "elbows" barker who used his one any only NHL asset his shot to throw in front where after the rebound Madden worked it free and scored around Kiprusoft.
Bolland set up Kane,
Kane set up Buff,
Bolland scored after a point shot deflected by Kane, lingered near the crease (sounds familiar eh?).
Less the five minutes into the third the game gets tied after a Toews face-off win, with support by Ladd getting it to Duncan Keith for a balst that Sharp redirects.
Five minutes left, Duncan Keith puts it off the cross bar and out to kipper.
First 30 seconds of overtime, Versteeg enters the zone and tries to dangke threw and the puck is loose and the right defenseman Seabrook not only takes control, but drifts across ice to the elft circle and lest loose with the winner.

What stuck me wss the major proponents to this comeback besides a few showing of some occasional muscle from Ladd, and Buff, was that the impact players were the same impact core that will still have. That seems to speak loudly to the fact that all the supplementary forwards just need to be themselves and play hard and well within there performances levels.

I guess I know why I never have been enamored by now radio broadcaster John Wiedeman besides his play by play…he has an NHL Guide next to him in the booth…why not look up the pronunciation of Hawks #4's name…it isn't in there as "Chalmarsson" as in Charm school...

And that's why the cheap shots will never end. Maybe someone has to die on the ice first.
- Ogilthorpe2

Someone did.
Bill Masterton. Minnesota North Stars, 1968 if I remember correctly. He wasn't hit from behind, but was double teamed from the front and fell backward hitting his unprotected head on the ice. NHL Award named after him.

With the helmets and protective equipment now used, it's unlikely someone could be killed by a blow to the head, although they could be messed up for a long time (see: Pronger, Chris). More likely is a Clint Malarchuk-like cut of the jugular by a skate in a scrum.

That 'Plan' provided the Hawks with the best nucleous in hockey!
- paulr

and mostly because the were able to win the lottery in 2008 and get the very best player at first overall in a draft year when the first tier had only one player, and Toews at slot three the year before.

One ping pong ball bounce and the fact that IF Staal was there Taser would not have been selected, so let go of DTnuts if you are saying he did the job that let it happen...many things came to together and he wasn't the major component.

and don't forget a part of that nucleus was drafted by the former GM Mike Smith in the later rounds...
Tallon was named GM on July 21, 2005 the draft was the next day. in that draft Jack Skille was chosen over Kopitar and they only gem was Niklas Hjalmarsson who Tallon drafted on the trust of the Euro scouts (I have this from someone who was at the table,ok?)
Troy Brouwer Brian Bickell Dave Bolland, Dustin Byfuglien, Lasse Kukkonen (who played in the NHL they actually got something for in a trade, Kyle Calder), Corey Crawford, Adam Burish, Brent Seabrook, Duncan Keith and James Wisniewski were not his choices either.

got to agree with you JJ about a couple of your predictionswith Pirri back in rockford, SB will look out there & deal from strenght & possibly get a true #2 center unless there are some suprises.
- wonthecup10

Easy to make JJ correct when Pirri is still injured so he can't fully attempt to win the job.
Right?


I predict Sheldon Souray will not get a point or a penalty in October or November....

I just watched that October game where the Hawks came back for five goals to win against Calgary and i was sort shocked that this was the line up we started with the year we won the Cup. Both Huet (3 quick goals against) and rookie Niemi (with poor glove and open low) sheet the bed.

The guys who love post the stupid line will love this:
Q's lines
Buff - Bolland - Kane
Versteeg- Toews - Sharp
Ladd - Madden- Brouwer
Kopecky - Fraser - Skille

Breathe in and think about that.

...and then move back to now and understand in an Olympic year teams basically have to trust in four lines and whenever the players at the lower end and press box show they can rise to the occasion, the coaching staff almost has to gig ether a bit more chances in roles they may never have been playing in, on the PP, or the high lines.
It becomes a matter of trusting the newly elevated Rockford players and showing the courage to allow them.
But in case you forgot,
After being behind 5-0
Down low Ladd works and wins the wall throws to the point to "elbows" barker who used his one any only NHL asset his shot to throw in front where after the rebound Madden worked it free and scored around Kiprusoft.
Bolland set up Kane,
Kane set up Buff,
Bolland scored after a point shot deflected by Kane, lingered near the crease (sounds familiar eh?).
Less the five minutes into the third the game gets tied after a Toews face-off win, with support by Ladd getting it to Duncan Keith for a balst that Sharp redirects.
Five minutes left, Duncan Keith puts it off the cross bar and out to kipper.
First 30 seconds of overtime, Versteeg enters the zone and tries to dangke threw and the puck is loose and the right defenseman Seabrook not only takes control, but drifts across ice to the elft circle and lest loose with the winner.

What stuck me wss the major proponents to this comeback besides a few showing of some occasional muscle from Ladd, and Buff, was that the impact players were the same impact core that will still have. That seems to speak loudly to the fact that all the supplementary forwards just need to be themselves and play hard and well within there performances levels.

I guess I know why I never have been enamored by now radio broadcaster John Wiedeman besides by his descriptions…he has an NHL Guide next to him in the booth…why not look up the pronunciation of Hawks #4's name…it isn't in there as "Chalmarsson" as in Charm school...
- wiz1901

That Buff-Bolland-Kane line was totally dominant in that game. Scored 3 huge goals in the 2nd period. Every time they were on the ice they put so much pressure on

Incorrect. Dustin Byfuglien>>>Ryan Callahan, especially in big game situations.
- John Jaeckel

I like Cally. Thought he played well for the US. Buff is not very good in his own zone. Tends to drift. Now, if Buff wants to play forward, he would be a major asset in the Olympics. IMO

Every time I watch, I miss Ladd more and more. The beauty of that 2010 team was you could pretty much throw the top 9 in a bag, pick names and roll three pretty effective lines. Plus, their 4th line was pretty damn good.
- Elbows15

its the preseason get over it guys.

- wingz4life

I am not sure what this is referring to?

The Red Wings playoff loss ?, b/c I didn't see any posts whining about any fear of the winged wheel.

[quote=Elbows15]
That was ideal and I think over the next little while the same can be said for these teams. There was so much skill and chemistry with those 2010 forwards. I can see this happening with this group, too. Really be hard to matchup against. I think you will be able to put any of the 12 forwards together and not miss a beat. At least for a little while. I still thin a smart player like smith can fit on any line. Not all season but for stretches

I am not sure what this is referring to?

The Red Wings playoff loss ?, b/c I didn't see any posts whining about any fear of the winged wheel.
- wiz1901

He is just bored talking to himself over on the Wang thread. Plus, he is a major troll. Don't bother Wiz/

I like Cally. Thought he played well for the US. Buff is not very good in his own zone. Tends to drift. Now, if Buff wants to play forward, he would be a major asset in the Olympics. IMO
- Elbows15

Byfuglien could have played either position, but was at forward for the Hawks that year and the prior one

He is just bored talking to himself over on the Wang thread. Plus, he is a major troll. Don't bother Wiz/
- Elbows15

Damn bandwagon Red Wings fans.

Damn bandwagon Red Wings fans.
- Ogilthorpe2

Damn bandwagon Red Wings fans.
- Ogilthorpe2

A fine example you are with that avi

I guess I am not sure what starting fool is supposed to be describing.

I am taking Crawford for the hawks because i think his team has less lingering reservations than the other guys teammates after last playoff because he realy and truly seem to unravel, and wasn't techinally or positionally strong. I am not saying he can't rebound, but discipline to how and what you must do on every attacking flurry is what becomes crucial...the team needs to know "this goaler's gonna do this so i will ..."
- wiz1901

Sorry Wiz, we weren't big on shot blocking back in the day. Pads weren't as good as now and no telling where the puck was going with unlimited curve on the sticks. So we used to refer to the goalie as the fool. Figured it was his job to step in front of shots, not ours. Now we did try to clear out and give him a good look, but he was on his own stopping it. Had to be crazy with the likes of Dennis and Bobby Hull firing away. The guy with the best ankle breaker was Reed Larson. But they could all bring it. Except for Maggy when he got here, but eventually he figured it out too.

its the preseason get over it guys.

- wingz4life

What??? Dont see anyone gloating in here. Good to see the Redwings BS play in the pre-season is already in full effect. Boarding guys in pre-season game #1????? Pure Class.. The fact you came in here to say that... geezus.... That made my day.

and mostly because the were able to win the lottery in 2008 and get the very best player at first overall in a draft year when the first tier had only one player, and Toews at slot three the year before.

One ping pong ball bounce and the fact that IF Staal was there Taser would not have been selected, so let go of DTnuts if you are saying he did the job that let it happen...many things came to together and he wasn't the major component.

and don't forget a part of that nucleus was drafted by the former GM Mike Smith in the later rounds...
Tallon was named GM on July 21, 2005 the draft was the next day. in that draft Jack Skille was chosen over Kopitar and they only gem was Niklas Hjalmarsson who Tallon drafted on the trust of the Euro scouts (I have this from someone who was at the table,ok?)
Troy Brouwer Brian Bickell Dave Bolland, Dustin Byfuglien, Lasse Kukkonen (who played in the NHL they actually got something for in a trade, Kyle Calder), Corey Crawford, Adam Burish, Brent Seabrook, Duncan Keith and James Wisniewski were not his choices either.
- wiz1901

Good points but wasn't Tallon director of player personel and wasn't he the one on the road evaluating talent?

I just watched that October game where the Hawks came back for five goals to win against Calgary and i was sort shocked that this was the line up we started with the year we won the Cup. Both Huet (3 quick goals against) and rookie Niemi (with poor glove and open low) sheet the bed.

The guys who love post the stupid line will love this:
Q's lines
Buff - Bolland - Kane
Versteeg- Toews - Sharp
Ladd - Madden- Brouwer
Kopecky - Fraser - Skille

Breathe in and think about that.

...and then move back to now and understand in an Olympic year teams basically have to trust in four lines and whenever the players at the lower end and press box show they can rise to the occasion, the coaching staff almost has to gig ether a bit more chances in roles they may never have been playing in, on the PP, or the high lines.
It becomes a matter of trusting the newly elevated Rockford players and showing the courage to allow them.
But in case you forgot,
After being behind 5-0
Down low Ladd works and wins the wall throws to the point to "elbows" barker who used his one any only NHL asset his shot to throw in front where after the rebound Madden worked it free and scored around Kiprusoft.
Bolland set up Kane,
Kane set up Buff,
Bolland scored after a point shot deflected by Kane, lingered near the crease (sounds familiar eh?).
Less the five minutes into the third the game gets tied after a Toews face-off win, with support by Ladd getting it to Duncan Keith for a balst that Sharp redirects.
Five minutes left, Duncan Keith puts it off the cross bar and out to kipper.
First 30 seconds of overtime, Versteeg enters the zone and tries to dangke threw and the puck is loose and the right defenseman Seabrook not only takes control, but drifts across ice to the elft circle and lest loose with the winner.

What stuck me wss the major proponents to this comeback besides a few showing of some occasional muscle from Ladd, and Buff, was that the impact players were the same impact core that will still have. That seems to speak loudly to the fact that all the supplementary forwards just need to be themselves and play hard and well within there performances levels.

I guess I know why I never have been enamored by now radio broadcaster John Wiedeman besides his play by play…he has an NHL Guide next to him in the booth…why not look up the pronunciation of Hawks #4's name…it isn't in there as "Chalmarsson" as in Charm school...
- wiz1901

I love when you guys bring this game up. I was there with my Dad. Great game

I just watched that October game where the Hawks came back for five goals to win against Calgary and i was sort shocked that this was the line up we started with the year we won the Cup. Both Huet (3 quick goals against) and rookie Niemi (with poor glove and open low) sheet the bed.

The guys who love post the stupid line will love this:
Q's lines
Buff - Bolland - Kane
Versteeg- Toews - Sharp
Ladd - Madden- Brouwer
Kopecky - Fraser - Skille

Breathe in and think about that.

...and then move back to now and understand in an Olympic year teams basically have to trust in four lines and whenever the players at the lower end and press box show they can rise to the occasion, the coaching staff almost has to gig ether a bit more chances in roles they may never have been playing in, on the PP, or the high lines.
It becomes a matter of trusting the newly elevated Rockford players and showing the courage to allow them.
But in case you forgot,
After being behind 5-0
Down low Ladd works and wins the wall throws to the point to "elbows" barker who used his one any only NHL asset his shot to throw in front where after the rebound Madden worked it free and scored around Kiprusoft.
Bolland set up Kane,
Kane set up Buff,
Bolland scored after a point shot deflected by Kane, lingered near the crease (sounds familiar eh?).
Less the five minutes into the third the game gets tied after a Toews face-off win, with support by Ladd getting it to Duncan Keith for a balst that Sharp redirects.
Five minutes left, Duncan Keith puts it off the cross bar and out to kipper.
First 30 seconds of overtime, Versteeg enters the zone and tries to dangke threw and the puck is loose and the right defenseman Seabrook not only takes control, but drifts across ice to the elft circle and lest loose with the winner.

What stuck me wss the major proponents to this comeback besides a few showing of some occasional muscle from Ladd, and Buff, was that the impact players were the same impact core that will still have. That seems to speak loudly to the fact that all the supplementary forwards just need to be themselves and play hard and well within there performances levels.

I guess I know why I never have been enamored by now radio broadcaster John Wiedeman besides his play by play…he has an NHL Guide next to him in the booth…why not look up the pronunciation of Hawks #4's name…it isn't in there as "Chalmarsson" as in Charm school...
- wiz1901

I love when you guys bring this game up. I was there with my Dad. Great game

Byfuglien could have played either position, but was at forward for the Hawks that year and the prior one
- John Jaeckel

Buff and Callahan should have both been kept and Phil Kessel sent packing. #33 could have been used to work over the Team Canada defence, especially Pronger.

But of course, Burke and Wilson were both with the Maple Leafs at the time as was Kessel.

Byfuglien could have played either position, but was at forward for the Hawks that year and the prior one
- John Jaeckel

Buff wouldn't have been able to keep up with the Olympic team. And his game at forward would be neutralized in the Olympic game. And the idea of him on D in the olympics would have been

Watching Oilers and Nucks. Luongo gives up 4 in first 15 min. Crazy action.

Watching Oilers and Nucks. Luongo gives up 4 in first 15 min. Crazy action.
- TrueGrit

Makes two of us.

Buff wouldn't have been able to keep up with the Olympic team. And his game at forward would be neutralized in the Olympic game. And the idea of him on D in the olympics would have been
- yahoodi

The 2010 games were played on a NHL size rink. I think you are forgetting how well Buff moves.