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iTOLDu
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MI
Joined: 10.26.2011

Sep 17 @ 8:23 PM ET
Owned.


Move along, old man

- jbold



It's so easy and amusing.
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Sep 17 @ 8:23 PM ET
I never understood who PIMS is considered a good stat
- robin_steele264

Guys like Clarkson and Clowe... D. Brown? Does he take a lot of penalties?
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Sep 17 @ 8:23 PM ET
No no a 15 year old writing in his basement is how I make my mind up on a player.
- honesthockey

But we should listen to a 70 year old in his retirement home who doesnt understand stats?
Sheppy99
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.10.2009

Sep 17 @ 8:23 PM ET
Stats are fact? So Kessel hasn't had career years playing with Bozak as center?
- honesthockey

That's like saying Sundins consistently great numbers can be attributed to future hall of famer Johnus Hoglund
honesthockey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Click heels twice and 1c appears.
Joined: 09.23.2008

Sep 17 @ 8:24 PM ET
I (frank)ing love this post.

Now, we get to wait for HH to insert one of his "lol" smileys and talk about how he has never stated that Bozak is better for Kessel.

- Compeyson


600 mins to 100 mins. Apples to oranges but hey I'm sure Carlyle agrees with you.
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Sep 17 @ 8:24 PM ET
That's like saying Sundins consistently great numbers can be attributed to future hall of famer Johnus Hoglund
- Sheppy99

honesthockey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Click heels twice and 1c appears.
Joined: 09.23.2008

Sep 17 @ 8:24 PM ET
That's like saying Sundins consistently great numbers can be attributed to future hall of famer Johnus Hoglund
- Sheppy99



You really see that as the same?
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Planet of the Leafs, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Sep 17 @ 8:26 PM ET
The Kessel and Bozak argument is irrelevant. Kadri will be the 1C sooner than later and Bozak will get shifted down.
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Sep 17 @ 8:26 PM ET
You really see that as the same?
- honesthockey

Its exactly the same.

Glad you're laughing at it, because we're laughing at the fact you think Kessels production is because of Blowzak.
Sheppy99
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.10.2009

Sep 17 @ 8:26 PM ET
You really see that as the same?
- honesthockey

Yeah? Sundin had poop wingers his entire career in Toronto but still consistently put up solid numbers. So does that automatically make those wingers better? God no.

So why does Kessel being a great player and sniper make Bozak look any better? Kessel puts up good numbers in spite of Bozak as his center..... not because
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Sep 17 @ 8:27 PM ET
The Kessel and Bozak argument is irrelevant. Kadri will be the 1C sooner than later and Bozak will get shifted down.
- Zezel

3rd/4th line
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Sep 17 @ 8:28 PM ET
Guys like Clarkson and Clowe... D. Brown? Does he take a lot of penalties?
- BetterCallSaul




Yeah, they are tough. But how is lots of penalties a good thing?


Pronger was one of the meanest and toughest players ever, and he average maybe a penalty every 2nd game


Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Planet of the Leafs, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Sep 17 @ 8:29 PM ET
3rd/4th line
- jbold


Possibly. Bolland could be 2C.
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Sep 17 @ 8:29 PM ET
Stats are facts

http://theleafsnation.com...-bozak-internet-will-burn


Oops. Looks like you just got proven wrong. Kessel does better without Blowzak

- jbold


According to scientific research, if kessel played with gardiner on the first line, gardiner would accumulate more points than bozak
iTOLDu
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MI
Joined: 10.26.2011

Sep 17 @ 8:30 PM ET
600 mins to 100 mins. Apples to oranges but hey I'm sure Carlyle agrees with you.
- honesthockey



Lets try again.

Kessel without Bozak=Higher PPG/Worse for TEAM
Kessel with Bozak=Lower PPG/Better for TEAM


Carlyle coaches for the team's sake, not Kessel's point total. Bozak provides balance if he is on a line with Kessel. However, it's proven that he hurts his production.

Thanks.
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Sep 17 @ 8:30 PM ET
Yeah, they are tough. But how is lots of penalties a good thing?


Pronger was one of the meanest and toughest players ever, and he average maybe a penalty every 2nd game

- robin_steele264

Valid.
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Sep 17 @ 8:31 PM ET
According to scientific research, if kessel played with gardiner on the first line, gardiner would accumulate more points than bozak
- Mapleleafs_91

Jason Blake was the reason Kessel scored 30 goals
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 17 @ 8:32 PM ET
Francis Bouillon
- honesthockey


Not sure what this smurf has to do with Franson??

I'm lost HH
Sheppy99
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.10.2009

Sep 17 @ 8:33 PM ET
According to scientific research, if kessel played with gardiner on the first line, gardiner would accumulate more points than bozak
- Mapleleafs_91

I agree

But to take it a step further, according to my scientific research, this would of accumulated the same or more points than bozak centering a line of Kessel and JVR

iTOLDu
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MI
Joined: 10.26.2011

Sep 17 @ 8:35 PM ET
I agree

But to take it a step further, according to my scientific research, this would of accumulated the same or more points than bozak centering a line of Kessel and JVR


- Sheppy99



jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Sep 17 @ 8:37 PM ET
I agree

But to take it a step further, according to my scientific research, this would of accumulated the same or more points than bozak centering a line of Kessel and JVR


- Sheppy99



more physical too
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 17 @ 8:37 PM ET
You really see that as the same?
- honesthockey


Yes a good player - playing with an average player

Unless you think Bozak is now Joe Thorton?

Sheppy99
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.10.2009

Sep 17 @ 8:38 PM ET


more physical too

- jbold

Very sturdy in front of the net........ a place where Bozak fears to go......
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Sep 17 @ 8:39 PM ET
Very sturdy in front of the net........ a place where Bozak fears to go......
- Sheppy99

Doesnt turn the puck over trying to make stupid passes to Kessel
Sheppy99
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.10.2009

Sep 17 @ 8:40 PM ET
Doesnt turn the puck over trying to make stupid passes to Kessel
- jbold

Better legs than Bozak too........
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