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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Sep 16 @ 9:43 AM ET
Gustafsson would get claimed on waivers in half a heartbeat.
- Jsaquella


I still don't understand waivers or recall waivers.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Sep 16 @ 9:44 AM ET
I guess not. Im not really a fan of Gervais or Gill.

If the team remains as it is, the team will probably send Gus to the AHL and he will be called up if any dman is out for an extended period of time. Gervais should only play if the team loses a dman on a long road trip or if a dman needs a few games to recover.

- PhillySportsGuy


Gill is just getting a friendly look. But he's done. Cooked.

Gervais, to me, is a perfect #7 defenseman. Cheap, stashed in the press box, only called upon under emergency conditions. Development not ruined by sitting for most of the season.

There's an extra body right now, but they have to be prepared for injuries.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Sep 16 @ 9:44 AM ET
I didn't think much of Meszaros, to be honest. Yeah, he hasn't played for the better part of a year, but at the same time, he looked pretty sloppy defensively. Not that Gus had a stellar game either. Neither looked like a top-6 NHL dman last night.
- jmatchett383


and I thought Meszaros looked really good...played a simple game and moved puck on the pp....He is a top 4 talent on this team if he can get his health in order and keep it that way.
It was the first preseason game....so I ain't to concerned....could go to game tonight in TO...but it really is a waste of $.
not much to add as others are pretty close on what happened last night.....I thought both high scoring rookies played well....Cousins and Laughton....Cousins has a nose for the net....you can't teach that.
FlyersGrace
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 07.02.2012

Sep 16 @ 9:45 AM ET
screw you all...had to watch the pit columbus game cause i live in NY....


edit: enjoyed watching columbus beat pitt.

- PhillaBully

You didn't miss a ton. Watching half the team is not that exciting.
Hartnell as playmaker was interesting. Watching Cousins look like a younger, fresher Briere was interesting.
However, there was lots of not finishing, and lots of hits on us and not the other way around.
And at least 3 - 4 odd man break aways. I can think of a couple 2 on 1 and 3 on 2 off the top of my head.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 16 @ 9:46 AM ET
I still don't understand waivers or recall waivers.
- PhillySportsGuy


Recall waivers no longer exist.

A player's waiver status depends on time in service, age and a few other factors.

Gustafsson is no longer waiver exempt, so if he gets sent to the Phantoms, he's got to clear waivers first.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 16 @ 9:46 AM ET
I guess not. Im not really a fan of Gervais or Gill.

If the team remains as it is, the team will probably send Gus to the AHL and he will be called up if any dman is out for an extended period of time. Gervais should only play if the team loses a dman on a long road trip or if a dman needs a few games to recover.

- PhillySportsGuy


No way Gus would pass waivers. He's on the team or on another team.

Edit: leight
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 16 @ 9:47 AM ET
Gill is just getting a friendly look. But he's done. Cooked.

Gervais, to me, is a perfect #7 defenseman. Cheap, stashed in the press box, only called upon under emergency conditions. Development not ruined by sitting for most of the season.

There's an extra body right now, but they have to be prepared for injuries.

- bradleyc4


The other good thing about Gervais is, he can be stashed in the AHL without incurring any NHL cap penalty.

If they have an injury situation, thy can use Gervais in limited minutes, or recall Lauridsen or Manning and return Gervais to the press box.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 04.08.2012

Sep 16 @ 9:48 AM ET
and I thought Meszaros looked really good...played a simple game and moved puck on the pp....He is a top 4 talent on this team if he can get his health in order and keep it that way.
It was the first preseason game....so I ain't to concerned....could go to game tonight in TO...but it really is a waste of $.
not much to add as others are pretty close on what happened last night.....I thought both high scoring rookies played well....Cousins and Laughton....Cousins has a nose for the net....you can't teach that.

- landros 2


Cousins was pretty much just as advertised. He has tremendous puck skills, but he may have a hard time adjusting to wing. He's not particularly fast and he's not the type to play the boards well
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Sep 16 @ 9:48 AM ET
You didn't miss a ton. Watching half the team is not that exciting.
Hartnell as playmaker was interesting. Watching Cousins look like a younger, fresher Briere was interesting.
However, there was lots of not finishing, and lots of hits on us and not the other way around.
And at least 3 - 4 odd man break aways. I can think of a couple 2 on 1 and 3 on 2 off the top of my head.

- FlyersGrace



Still flyers hockey......its better than watching malkin take penalty upon penalty....from waht im hearing though its a typical flyers game....get blown up in the first come back...and loose by one.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Sep 16 @ 9:49 AM ET
The other good thing about Gervais is, he can be stashed in the AHL without incurring any NHL cap penalty.

If they have an injury situation, thy can use Gervais in limited minutes, or recall Lauridsen or Manning and return Gervais to the press box.

- Jsaquella


Right, exactly. So when an injury occurs, Gervais doesn't even have to be the first option. They can call up one of the kids and demote Gervais and not affect the cap much, if at all.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 03.28.2008

Sep 16 @ 9:49 AM ET
Rinaldo seemed to have a target on him, lots of Leafs it seemed were looking to hit him.

Mez was fine, I think his quick shot from the point is something they missed.
If they keep everyone I think Mez will be in the top six ahead of Gus.

Cousins may have a shot at making the team, he looked very good, although just a preseason game.

If I were a Leaf fan I'd be excited to watch Kadri this year.
He is going to be great.

FlyersGrace
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Sep 16 @ 9:49 AM ET
Still flyers hockey......its better than watching malkin take penalty upon penalty....
- PhillaBully

Yeah...
Unless Malkin is hi-sticking himself not that much fun...
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Sep 16 @ 9:50 AM ET
Cousins was pretty much just as advertised. He has tremendous puck skills, but he may have a hard time adjusting to wing. He's not particularly fast and he's not the type to play the boards well
- PhillySportsGuy

He most certainly needs to get stronger.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 16 @ 9:50 AM ET
The other good thing about Gervais is, he can be stashed in the AHL without incurring any NHL cap penalty.

If they have an injury situation, thy can use Gervais in limited minutes, or recall Lauridsen or Manning and return Gervais to the press box.

- Jsaquella


I'd prefer they keep Meszaros (as well as Kimmo, Schenn, Coburn, Grossmann, Gustafsson, and Streit) and stash Gervais in the AHL as your #8 (or 9, 10, whatever after Lauridsen, Manning, Alt, whoever). Hold onto all 7, and wait for a team to have a defenseman go down for an extended time (Carolina grabbed Hainsey quick) and deal from a position of relative strength. Right now, no reason to just give Meszaros away.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Sep 16 @ 9:50 AM ET
Recall waivers no longer exist.

A player's waiver status depends on time in service, age and a few other factors.

Gustafsson is no longer waiver exempt, so if he gets sent to the Phantoms, he's got to clear waivers first.

- Jsaquella


So I guess Gus is on the team.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 16 @ 9:51 AM ET
He most certainly needs to get stronger.
- jak521


He does, but I do agree that he looks like Briere lite.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 02.19.2008

Sep 16 @ 9:51 AM ET
Tickets on StubHub are like $4 for tonight... maybe Ill make the 25 minute trip to the First Un.. no Corest... Wach.. (frank) it.. the stadium.
FlyersGrace
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Sep 16 @ 9:52 AM ET
Rinaldo seemed to have a target on him, lots of Leafs it seemed were looking to hit him.

Mez was fine, I think his quick shot from the point is something they missed.
If they keep everyone I think Mez will be in the top six ahead of Gus.

Cousins may have a shot at making the team, he looked very good, although just a preseason game.

If I were a Leaf fan I'd be excited to watch Kadri this year.
He is going to be great.

- Marc D

I think Rinaldo painted a target on himself. He instigated and drew penalties all over the place.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Sep 16 @ 9:52 AM ET
Rinaldo seemed to have a target on him, lots of Leafs it seemed were looking to hit him.

Mez was fine, I think his quick shot from the point is something they missed.
If they keep everyone I think Mez will be in the top six ahead of Gus.

Cousins may have a shot at making the team, he looked very good, although just a preseason game.

If I were a Leaf fan I'd be excited to watch Kadri this year.
He is going to be great.

- Marc D


Keep in mind the Flyers top center in the game may not be on the team this season.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 16 @ 9:52 AM ET
Keep in mind the Flyers top center in the game may not be on the team this season.
- PhillySportsGuy


B Schenn?
flyers4487
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jamison, PA
Joined: 02.15.2007

Sep 16 @ 9:53 AM ET
I don't think tonight's will be.
Next one is Tues...

http://flyers.nhl.com/club/app

One more pre-season game not televised. But all the rest should be.

- FlyersGrace


Bla I wanted to watch the split squad games
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 16 @ 9:53 AM ET
I'd prefer they keep Meszaros (as well as Kimmo, Schenn, Coburn, Grossmann, Gustafsson, and Streit) and stash Gervais in the AHL as your #8 (or 9, 10, whatever after Lauridsen, Manning, Alt, whoever). Hold onto all 7, and wait for a team to have a defenseman go down for an extended time (Carolina grabbed Hainsey quick) and deal from a position of relative strength. Right now, no reason to just give Meszaros away.
- jmatchett383


If they think Meszaros is healthy, I'd rather trade Grossmann, and keep Gustafsson in the top 6.

Unfortunately, nobody knows if Meszaros can stay healthy, so that might not be a prudent idea.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
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Sep 16 @ 9:53 AM ET
He does, but I do agree that he looks like Briere lite.
- jmatchett383

He looks pretty decent.. but I would like to see him get a full year in at the AHL level. He is the type of player that can really benefit from that time there.

Laughton looked pretty good to me. Had a few dandy set ups, but the thing that I pay attention to (and look for the most) is positioning. He is always in the right spots both offensively and defensively.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Sep 16 @ 9:53 AM ET
I'd prefer they keep Meszaros (as well as Kimmo, Schenn, Coburn, Grossmann, Gustafsson, and Streit) and stash Gervais in the AHL as your #8 (or 9, 10, whatever after Lauridsen, Manning, Alt, whoever). Hold onto all 7, and wait for a team to have a defenseman go down for an extended time (Carolina grabbed Hainsey quick) and deal from a position of relative strength. Right now, no reason to just give Meszaros away.
- jmatchett383


With their history, the Flyers may be the first to lose a defenseman to injury. It might behoove the Flyers to keep Gus and wait for the inevitable injury to occur.
FlyersGrace
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Sep 16 @ 9:54 AM ET
Keep in mind the Flyers top center in the game may not be on the team this season.
- PhillySportsGuy

I had a heart attack thinking you meant G. But you meant Cousins, HAHAHA
It's friggin Mon, don't scare me like that.
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