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flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Sep 12 @ 10:35 AM ET
I thought he'd help us for sure, but that was a lot of money for a guy his age.
- Hextall271


i just feel like whenever we get a player that played in det, that player really works out and he would have been a great mentor/ on ice leader for coots and reader
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Sep 12 @ 10:35 AM ET
they need grit/size on the 3rd line. talbot and read on the wings is not what I'd be looking for...I'm back on the chimera bandwagon myself...
- isaiah520


I think Talbot is better suited to the fourth line.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Sep 12 @ 10:35 AM ET
simon gagne: you have a call on the orange courtesy phone in the lounge.
- hammarby31


I wonder if the reported numbers for Cleary will drive up the price for Gagne?
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Sep 12 @ 10:37 AM ET
I wonder if the reported numbers for Cleary will drive up the price for Gagne?
- MBFlyerfan


what did cleary get? and they're different kind of players.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Sep 12 @ 10:37 AM ET
they need grit/size on the 3rd line. talbot and read on the wings is not what I'd be looking for...I'm back on the chimera bandwagon myself...
- isaiah520


They have size and grit on line 1, 2, and 4. Why do we need it on 3rd line?

Line 1
Hartnell- Size and Grit
Voracek- Size

Line 2
Lecavalier- Size and ocasional grit
Simmonds- Size and Grit
Schenn- Some Grit

Line 3
If talbot playes here he as grit

Line 4
Hall- Grit
Rinaldo- Grit
Rosehill- Size Grit

I think we are covered. I think I wouldnt mind a smaller 3rd line that can out score other team's 3rd lines by like 3-1 ratios. Gagne and Read as 3rd liners.... I like it. Cant think of a better 3rd line.
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Sep 12 @ 10:38 AM ET
I wonder if this irks the players at all??
- jak521



personal level - might irk them
business level - not at all
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 12 @ 10:38 AM ET
Not a huge deal. Would have been nice to add Cleary as he is better than the current in house options. Hopefully they can sign Gagne now.

I wouldn't be opposed to putting Talbot on the third line, and letting McGinn play a 4th line role, but I think they will start out having Rosehill on the 4th line. Hope I'm wrong.

- PLindbergh31



Laughton is also an option. Rosehill will be fine on the 4th line.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Sep 12 @ 10:39 AM ET
i can't beleive a player used another team as leverage to get a contract to his liking from the team he really never wanted to leave...
THAT NEVER HAPPENS

- phi1671


Oh I know, that's what I've been saying... But still, should make for some fun hockey moments.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 12 @ 10:40 AM ET
what did cleary get? and they're different kind of players.
- hammarby31


Looks like a lot of the Detroit fans aren't all that encouraged that he's back. I expect he's not at a super discount considering what the Flyers offered for him.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 12 @ 10:40 AM ET
they need grit/size on the 3rd line. talbot and read on the wings is not what I'd be looking for...I'm back on the chimera bandwagon myself...
- isaiah520



You were fine with Cleary on the 3rd line with Read on the other Wing. Talbot brings just as much grit, if not more, then Cleary does. And Talbot is 5 years younger. It's a blessing in disguise that Cleary decided to go to the Wings.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Sep 12 @ 10:40 AM ET
they need grit/size on the 3rd line. talbot and read on the wings is not what I'd be looking for...I'm back on the chimera bandwagon myself...
- isaiah520


I wonder if Newbury might be an option. He's a better player than Rosehill.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 12 @ 10:41 AM ET
This has gotta be like Christmas for dingo8urbaby
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 12 @ 10:42 AM ET
You were fine with Cleary on the 3rd line with Read on the other Wing. Talbot brings just as much grit, if not more, then Cleary does. And Talbot is 5 years younger. It's a blessing in disguise that Cleary decided to go to the Wings.
- MJL


I gotta say I'm 100% with you. I really wasn't a fan of the Cleary option.
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Sep 12 @ 10:42 AM ET
Oh I know, that's what I've been saying... But still, should make for some fun hockey moments.
- youarewrong



true
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 12 @ 10:44 AM ET
I wonder if Newbury might be an option. He's a better player than Rosehill.
- PLindbergh31



Why is Newbury a better player then Rosehill? What makes him a better player?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 12 @ 10:44 AM ET
Why is Newbury a better player then Rosehill? What makes him a better player?
- MJL


Good at getting beat up by a rookie?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Sep 12 @ 10:45 AM ET
Good at getting beat up by a rookie?
- jmatchett383


It happens. Look what B. Schenn did to Kovalchuk.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 12 @ 10:46 AM ET
I think Talbot is better suited to the fourth line.
- Feanor



I think that Talbot is an ideal 3rd line Winger.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Sep 12 @ 10:47 AM ET
personal level - might irk them
business level - not at all

- phi1671

I bet will make for some level of chirping that first game...
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Sep 12 @ 10:48 AM ET
I wonder if Newbury might be an option. He's a better player than Rosehill.
- PLindbergh31

that's 4th line...
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Sep 12 @ 10:48 AM ET
that's 4th line...
- isaiah520


I know. I don't have an issue with Talbot on the third line.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Sep 12 @ 10:50 AM ET
@HeleneStJames And here we go: Per Daniel Cleary "Flying to Traverse. I'm back. Signing tonight." #RedWings
- BringBack25


Straight from the horse's mouth.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 12 @ 10:50 AM ET
It happens. Look what B. Schenn did to Kovalchuk.
- PLindbergh31


Didn't happen.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Sep 12 @ 10:53 AM ET
what did cleary get? and they're different kind of players.
- hammarby31


I'm talking about what the Flyers reportedly offered him. And yes they are different kinds of players, who were pretty much slated to play the same position, third line winger.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Sep 12 @ 10:54 AM ET
Earlier this week, Detroit Free Press writer Helene St. James reported that Cleary and the Flyers had agreed to a three-year contract worth $2.75 million per season, but the deal would not be announced until the Flyers --- who are currently over the salary cap and maxed out at 50 contracts until slide-rule eligible players are re-assigned to their junior clubs -- carve room for Cleary at the end of the month. In the interim, Cleary would officially join the Flyers on a professional tryout (PTO) basis.

Ummmmm... anybody want to rail on for three pages and correct Bill about how he doesn't understand the salary cap or he wouldn't state that the Flyers are over it because they aren't.
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