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vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Sep 12 @ 9:23 AM ET
I guess Cleary didn't show up? Classy.
- Flyers1218

Cleary is clearly classless
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Sep 12 @ 9:24 AM ET
I guess Cleary didn't show up? Classy.
- Flyers1218


Can't really blame a guy for going where he wants to go and is comfortable.

With that said, hopefully he impales himself on his own stick at Detriot training camp!

FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Sep 12 @ 9:25 AM ET
It's not a great sign when you offer the most money and it doesn't work. Sports are a business where athletes 99.9% of the time take the most money. We have the examples of Parise, Suter, and now Cleary not coming to Philadelphia for more money than what they ultimately accepted.
- PLindbergh31

I'd say that percentage is a bit closer to 80%. There are factors that influence you beyond money. Family is a HUGE reason. Comfort is another.
I don't think it says bad things about us as a destination to not get everyone we go after.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 12 @ 9:25 AM ET
4.6 million dollar raises are pretty hard to say no to. It's not as if Giroux gave the Flyers any sort of home town discount.
- PLindbergh31


I was referring to Shea "Zetterberg Smash" Weber.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Sep 12 @ 9:26 AM ET
Well Shelley isn't there to set an example in the locker room
Anymore

- funmaster18

I knew this would be a problem. Can we give him another 1.1 million against the cap just to hang with the team?
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Sep 12 @ 9:27 AM ET
Sometimes that aggravates me a mite.
- 77rams

Yes and no. we can talk about home town discounts but too much of a discount and that player feels unwanted and is either not going to care as much or is going to do everything he can to get away from us. I'd much rather be known as a team willing to put their money where their mouth is.
It's like underpaying people in the real world. If you are doing the same job and making much less you are going to be looking for an escape route.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 12 @ 9:27 AM ET
I knew this would be a problem. Can we give him another 1.1 million against the cap just to hang with the team?
- Flyers1218


Maybe they can hire him as an inspirational speaker.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 12 @ 9:29 AM ET
Yes and no. we can talk about home town discounts but too much of a discount and that player feels unwanted and is either not going to care as much or is going to do everything he can to get away from us. I'd much rather be known as a team willing to put their money where their mouth is.
It's like underpaying people in the real world. If you are doing the same job and making much less you are going to be looking for an escape route.

- FlyersGrace


They need to come up with some kind of structure where players can only be paid a certain amount of money, and some way of limiting or "capping" how much money each team can spend on its players.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Sep 12 @ 9:29 AM ET
I knew this would be a problem. Can we give him another 1.1 million against the cap just to hang with the team?
- Flyers1218

I like the cut of your jib. That popcorn isn't going to pop itself!
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Sep 12 @ 9:29 AM ET
Maybe they can hire him as an inspirational speaker.
- jmatchett383

Columbus already snatched Shelley up to do just that.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Sep 12 @ 9:29 AM ET
They need to come up with some kind of structure where players can only be paid a certain amount of money, and some way of limiting or "capping" how much money each team can spend on its players.
- jmatchett383


Dude, you are ornery today!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 12 @ 9:30 AM ET
Columbus already snatched Shelley up to do just that.
- FlyersGrace


So they're the new Cup favorites?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 12 @ 9:30 AM ET

Dude, you are ornery today!

- FlyersGrace


That's what she said.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Sep 12 @ 9:30 AM ET
Yes and no. we can talk about home town discounts but too much of a discount and that player feels unwanted and is either not going to care as much or is going to do everything he can to get away from us. I'd much rather be known as a team willing to put their money where their mouth is.
It's like underpaying people in the real world. If you are doing the same job and making much less you are going to be looking for an escape route.

- FlyersGrace

Nice use of logic and reason. Don't see that much.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Sep 12 @ 9:30 AM ET
So has it been "officially" reported whether or not Cleary showed today?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Sep 12 @ 9:30 AM ET
I'd say that percentage is a bit closer to 80%. There are factors that influence you beyond money. Family is a HUGE reason. Comfort is another.
I don't think it says bad things about us as a destination to not get everyone we go after.

- FlyersGrace


Absolutely. There are always extenuating circumstances. My point was majority of the time athletes go for the most money.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Sep 12 @ 9:31 AM ET
They need to come up with some kind of structure where players can only be paid a certain amount of money, and some way of limiting or "capping" how much money each team can spend on its players.
- jmatchett383


HE'S A WITCH!!!!
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Sep 12 @ 9:31 AM ET
So they're the new Cup favorites?
- jmatchett383
not necessarily but they're PR will be amazing
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Sep 12 @ 9:33 AM ET
Columbus already snatched Shelley up to do just that.
- FlyersGrace

Jody! Tell us again how you continually got punched in the face and lost fights, but did it to inspire the team.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 12 @ 9:33 AM ET
Leight, but just saw "CoHo" signed 6 years at $4.25M per. That seems like a steep price, to me.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Sep 12 @ 9:33 AM ET
So they're the new Cup favorites?
- jmatchett383


Blue Jackets are perennial doormats. They don't have a goalie.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Sep 12 @ 9:33 AM ET
not necessarily but they're PR will be amazing
- funmaster18

Bob + Shelley + Puerto Rico = Stanley Cup
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Sep 12 @ 9:33 AM ET
Absolutely. There are always extenuating circumstances. My point was majority of the time athletes go for the most money.
- PLindbergh31

Agreed. And apparently those guys play for us...
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 12 @ 9:33 AM ET
HE'S A WITCH!!!!
- MBFlyerfan


haha, thanks dude. Put a smile on my face.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Sep 12 @ 9:33 AM ET
I like the cut of your jib. That popcorn isn't going to pop itself!
- Flyskippy


Neither will Shelley's face, need him out there!
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