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acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Get the Cup back, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

Sep 11 @ 1:51 PM ET
This is how I feel. They tried to get every drop of "winning" out of the last core of players......hard to blame them for that. Exactly right, you can blame the Rooney's for Haley. He's basically neutered their best player. Makes no sense at all. They're certainly not superbowl caliber or even playoff worthy. Might as well lose bad and get plenty of high picks.
- madmike71


That's what ticks me off the most. You cater to Ben's strengths which is throwing downfield not little five yard passes. Granted Mike Wallace was a malcontent last season and quit on the team but there is another case where Wallace's strength was deep passes and not five yard outs. He misused him as well. A coach should look at his team and see what they do the best. He shouldn't diminish them to his own agenda.

The sooner they get rid of Haley the better.
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

Sep 11 @ 2:34 PM ET
Start up the Niskanen to Carolina rumors.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Sep 11 @ 2:36 PM ET
Carolina is looking more and more like a good landing spot for Nisk
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Sep 11 @ 2:47 PM ET
Carolina is looking more and more like a good landing spot for Nisk
- dbell646


Yeah...

Shero sort of owes Rutherford for the Staal deal and even the Jokinen deal. Help them out with Niskanen for a 4th rounder and a crappy AHL depth player.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Sep 11 @ 2:47 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC now
Not exactly sure why, but it appears as if there is some complication between Daniel Cleary and PHI. Told he will not be joining Flyers.
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

Sep 11 @ 2:48 PM ET
Yeah...

Shero sort of owes Rutherford for the Staal deal and even the Jokinen deal. Help them out with Niskanen for a 4th rounder and a crappy AHL depth player.

- rival22


Niskanen for a 3rd and an apology for Boychuk.
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

Sep 11 @ 2:49 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC now
Not exactly sure why, but it appears as if there is some complication between Daniel Cleary and PHI. Told he will not be joining Flyers.

- rival22


That sucks. The contract Philly was giving him was hilarious.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Sep 11 @ 2:49 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC now
Not exactly sure why, but it appears as if there is some complication between Daniel Cleary and PHI. Told he will not be joining Flyers.

- rival22

He realized how disgusting that side of the state is???
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Sep 11 @ 3:04 PM ET
That sucks. The contract Philly was giving him was hilarious.
- Deadstar


This might be true lol

The Royal Half ‏@theroyalhalf now
Well, it’s now obvious the exact moment Ron Hextall took over the Philadelphia Flyers GM position.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Sep 11 @ 4:03 PM ET
Here's some audio from today:

Coach Dan Bylsma:
http://downloads.penguins...om/audio/130911Bylsma.mp3

Winger Beau Bennett
http://downloads.penguins...m/audio/130911Bennett.mp3

Center Sidney Crosby
http://downloads.penguins...om/audio/130911Crosby.mp3

Winger Pascal Dupuis
http://downloads.penguins...om/audio/130911Dupuis.mp3

Forward Chuck Kobasew
http://downloads.penguins...m/audio/130911Kobasew.mp3

Center Brandon Sutter
http://downloads.penguins...om/audio/130911Sutter.mp3

Defenseman Rob Scuderi
http://downloads.penguins...m/audio/130911Scuderi.mp3

- rival22


Is it just me or do you also feel Rob Rossi is annoying when asking his "well elaborated" questions?
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

Sep 11 @ 4:07 PM ET
Rob Rossi is annoying
- Orpik44


Fixed
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Sep 11 @ 4:10 PM ET
Is it just me or do you also feel Rob Rossi is annoying when asking his "well elaborated" questions?
- Orpik44


His questions and pretty much all of Shelly Anderson's question.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Sep 11 @ 4:44 PM ET
That sucks. The contract Philly was giving him was hilarious.
- Deadstar


Name one contract handed out by Philly that isn't hilarious these days.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Sep 11 @ 4:49 PM ET
Name one contract handed out by Philly that isn't hilarious these days.
- Oneonta Penguin

Glad to see you're back. Tell the Ron Francis joke again, for old times sake!
Ben37
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: One of the Most Respected Hockeybuzz Posters, AB
Joined: 04.07.2010

Sep 11 @ 5:00 PM ET
Glad to see you're back. Tell the Ron Francis joke again, for old times sake!
- BulliesPhan87


Sean "This Generations Ron Francis" Couturier
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Sep 11 @ 6:13 PM ET
His questions and pretty much all of Shelly Anderson's question.
- rival22


Agreed. Don't take Shelly in the boat. It would sink like a stone.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Sep 12 @ 12:16 AM ET
Carolina is looking more and more like a good landing spot for Nisk
- dbell646


honestly, id say load up on draft picks for the deadline, or for some new forward prospects. if kennedy could land a 2nd, nisk can land a 2nd
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Sep 12 @ 12:48 AM ET
Sean "This Generations Ron Francis" Couturier
- Ben37

walshy66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @walshy66 www.hockeyhurts.com
Joined: 03.21.2008

Sep 12 @ 7:51 AM ET
Game day!!!????
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Sep 12 @ 9:17 AM ET
honestly, id say load up on draft picks for the deadline, or for some new forward prospects. if kennedy could land a 2nd, nisk can land a 2nd
- drummer829

Shero is going to have to start addressing the forward position in the pipeline at some point right? I know we are blessed with a lot of talent on the big club but it won't be here forever.
nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.31.2012

Sep 12 @ 9:56 AM ET
I was just wondering the confidence level of fans in Bylsma's coaching. Are there any clear Bylsma supporters still out there?
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Sep 12 @ 9:56 AM ET
Shero is going to have to start addressing the forward position in the pipeline at some point right? I know we are blessed with a lot of talent on the big club but it won't be here forever.
- dbell646


I don't know... Sid, Malkin, Neal and Bennett are all here and will be top 6 players for at least the next handful of years. At some point Kunitz and/or Dupuis will need to be replaced, but that is only one or two spots to fill, and Shero has proven to be able to acquire those type of guys repeatedly. He lucked out on Dupuis, but none of Kunitz, Neal, Fedotenko, Guerin or Sykora were homegrown, and they've all filled top 6 roles at times.

Maybe you get one surprise player who's already in the pipeline (Kuhnhackl, Zlobin, Sundqvist, Teddy Blueger etc), that clicks with Crosby or Malkin, and the top 6 keep rolling.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Sep 12 @ 10:16 AM ET
I was just wondering the confidence level of fans in Bylsma's coaching. Are there any clear Bylsma supporters still out there?
- nbartley9


Bylsma made some interesting comments recently about changing some things with how they attack through the neutral zone. Also made further comments about adjusting some of their defensive schemes.

We'll see...

To me, he's a little like MAF. Great regular season. Post season (when a series dictates quick adjustments), not so much.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Sep 12 @ 10:16 AM ET
I don't know... Sid, Malkin, Neal and Bennett are all here and will be top 6 players for at least the next handful of years. At some point Kunitz and/or Dupuis will need to be replaced, but that is only one or two spots to fill, and Shero has proven to be able to acquire those type of guys repeatedly. He lucked out on Dupuis, but none of Kunitz, Neal, Fedotenko, Guerin or Sykora were homegrown, and they've all filled top 6 roles at times.

Maybe you get one surprise player who's already in the pipeline (Kuhnhackl, Zlobin, Sundqvist, Teddy Blueger etc), that clicks with Crosby or Malkin, and the top 6 keep rolling.

- rival22

Yea but you are also seeing how helpful it can be to have a top 6 player (Bennet) on a rookie contract.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Sep 12 @ 10:20 AM ET
I was just wondering the confidence level of fans in Bylsma's coaching. Are there any clear Bylsma supporters still out there?
- nbartley9

My biggest beef with him is his lack of adjustments. Not just in game adjustments but prior to a series to expose a weakness. He says we are going to get to our game regardless of how that plays against any given opponent. He and Tomlin are comparable in that sense. I chalk it up to inexperience and it's part of the learning process. If he doesn't learn over the next few seasons well then we have an issue. Both coaches were spoiled with a ton of success early on which attributes to them being hard headed.
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