Nah Liles was getting 2nd unit PP all year when he was in the lineup. Dozzer's off on that.
- Big_Lightnin

whe he was IN the lineup.. but he wasnt getting the same minutes he was before the injury.. all i am trying to say.. his poopty year would of still been a 30 point year

no, gardiner and franson would of been eaten alive.. series wouldnt of made it to 7. those two are not that good at defense.. average at best.
- Dozzer

So are the guys who were matched against that line

Nah Liles was getting 2nd unit PP all year when he was in the lineup. Dozzer's off on that.
- Big_Lightnin

well i was more saying that Franson was eating up the first unit PP time which relegated Liles to mop-up duty.

I am practically giddy this year. Most optimism I have had in way too long. can't even wait for pre-season to start on Sunday!
- vermie22

Same here...its been a rough couple of years, but things are finally looking good for the team. Really pumped for this season!

i dont hate franson, i hate people's ridiculous opinions of franson
- Dozzer

I like you.


I hate your ridiculous opinion of Franson though

no... as the season went on, opposing teams started playing their 4th lines more. and carlyle had to match with his 5/6 dmen.
- Rockhead_37

there is no place for that type of sarcasm on these boards

I like you.


I hate your ridiculous opinion of Franson though
- robin_steele264

I wouldn't call it ridiculous by any stretch. Just because you disagree.

Then he got a bigger role and thrived.


Him and Gardiner rose to the occasion while the rest wilted
- robin_steele264

Yup and thrived when it counted, which is really the only thing that counts

there is no place for that type of sarcasm on these boards
- bobbyisno1

sorry, was just trying to bring the guy up to speed on the argument.

Sooo..

JVR-Blozak-Kessel
Lupul-Kadri-Clarkson
Kulemin-Bolland-Colborne
Raymond-Mcclement-Orr/Mclaren

Phaneuf-Gunnar
Gardiner-Ranger
Franson-Fraser

Bernier
Reimer



Share your thoughts? I don't see the point of having Orr and Mclaren in every game, but would love to have them for the Boston/Habs kind of games.

I wouldn't call it ridiculous by any stretch. Just because you disagree.
- UsernameUnknown

disagreement is a two way street.

Sooo..

JVR-Blozak-Kessel
Lupul-Kadri-Clarkson
Kulemin-Bolland-Colborne
Raymond-Mcclement-Orr/Mclaren

Phaneuf-Gunnar
Gardiner-Ranger
Franson-Fraser

Bernier
Reimer



Share your thoughts? I don't see the point of having Orr and Mclaren in every game, but would love to have them for the Boston/Habs kind of games.
- iTOLDu

Shoot Carlyle an email and I'm sure he'll explain it to you.

swap Franson and Ranger
Swap Colborne and McClement

disagreement is a two way street.
- Rockhead_37

No it isn't.

Sooo..

Phaneuf-Gunnar
Gardiner-Ranger
Liles-Kotska
Holzier-Blacker
Percy-Reilly
Redden-Kaberle
Franson-Fraser

- iTOLDu

Fixed...

damn, theres that sarcasm thing again.

Sooo..

JVR-Blozak-Kessel
Lupul-Kadri-Clarkson
Kulemin-Bolland-Colborne
Raymond-Mcclement-Orr/Mclaren

Phaneuf-Gunnar
Gardiner-Ranger
Franson-Fraser

Bernier
Reimer



Share your thoughts? I don't see the point of having Orr and Mclaren in every game, but would love to have them for the Boston/Habs kind of games.
- iTOLDu

Raymond doesn't fit the 4th line. Grinders that like to cycle. If we have Raymond, he'll be a 3rd liner.But the rest is good. Even spelled Blozaks name right.

I was told he is a 5/6 .... Jake Gardiner who has 1/3 career games, 1/3 career points is a lock in the top 4.... Franson has not proven anything...Gardiner has
- senstroll

Wtf

We are in trouble

Liles has been the spit bucket of these boards for ages.


Today he's a top 4


Forgive me for being confused.
- robin_steele264

Would you understand better if we said Liles was untouchable, or all-world?

Shoot Carlyle an email and I'm sure he'll explain it to you.

swap Franson and Ranger
Swap Colborne and McClement
- Big_Lightnin

i think this year will be different, at least in the second half. you'll need a 4th line that can play a regular shift later in the season. i can see McLaren sitting out as a healthy scratch pretty often.

Shoot Carlyle an email and I'm sure he'll explain it to you.

swap Franson and Ranger
Swap Colborne and McClement
- Big_Lightnin

Fraser also dropped the mitts, and Clarkson will also drop the mitts. Seems redundant to have them both.

No it isn't.
- Woderwick

stop, your going the wrong way.

Yup and thrived when it counted, which is really the only thing that counts
- Fakepartofme

his last shift of the year was pretty important... definitely "counted" and he took a lap to the top of the circle chasing the puck only to watch Boston end the series while he was way out of position.

no, gardiner and franson would of been eaten alive.. series wouldnt of made it to 7. those two are not that good at defense.. average at best.
- Dozzer

Their play was one of the reasons the series went to 7

Fraser also dropped the mitts, and Clarkson will also drop the mitts. Seems redundant to have them both.
- iTOLDu

to you.

Pretty sure Carlyle sees it differently.

VERY disturbed by something Nonis alluded to during presser today...essentially equating negotiations with Kessell to that of Bozak and that if he is not signed prior to/during the season, he can look to sign him between the end of the year and UFA day...VERY un-settling. Awfully big gamble to take considering what was given up to acquire him, his current production and future production. You can afford to let a college-FA signing go for nothing, but if Kessell is lost with no assetts coming back Nonis should be hung by his feet in Maple Leaf Square. Not a happy camper about this at all...

Shoot Carlyle an email and I'm sure he'll explain it to you.

swap Franson and Ranger
Swap Colborne and McClement
- Big_Lightnin

You want Little Big Joe to play with goons?