We need more than 3 game sample.
- burn

You have one

You have one
- robin_steele264

How?

I just read this propaganda peice on tsn.


Franson saw his role grow and grow last season, from under 14 minutes in January to upwards of 22 in April, and the now 26-year-old delivered, finishing amongst the leaders at his position in scoring. In addition to his increased responsibility, which included first duty power-play, Franson also showed more assertiveness defensively, with prodding from Carlyle paying dividends. A breakthrough 2013 continued in the postseason, with the B.C. native and unsigned restricted free agent adding three goals and six points in nearly 23 minutes against the Bruins. He and Gardiner teamed together in the final three games of the first round against Boston – with Fraser sidelined – and proved Toronto's most effective pair, a preview perhaps of what Carlyle may opt for this season.
- robin_steele264

How?
- burn

He played more than 3 games last year.

I think people get locked into these top 6, bottom 6, top 4, bottom 2 minsets and thats all that matters... He needs to start seeing some tougher assignments now...
- senstroll

I agree with this. People also seem to think things remain static and set in stone. Line combos and d-pairings change over the course of a game, that's what a coach does. You don't slot players on the depth chart only by who they play with, it comes down to assignments and how much they play. When Weber and Suter were up around 27 minutes each in Nashville, it wasn't a case of them only being paired together. They get sent out sometimes with some other guy, ie. you play two minutes on the PP, odds are you're not going back out on the ice on your next turn with your regular so-called partner.

He played more than 3 games last year.
- robin_steele264

As a #5 guy getting sheltered mins.

He played on the most effective pair
- robin_steele264

cause they were matched against the slumping seguin line

not impressed.

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I agree with this. People also seem to think things remain static and set in stone. Line combos and d-pairings change over the course of a game, that's what a coach does. You don't slot players on the depth chart only by who they play with, it comes down to assignments and how much they play. When Weber and Suter were up around 27 minutes each in Nashville, it wasn't a case of them only being paired together. They get sent out sometimes with some other guy, ie. you play two minutes on the PP, odds are you're not going back out on the ice on your next turn with your regular so-called partner.
- mykokes

I think this is a lot of what people were trying to say. Franson played the lowest quality of opponents last year. He did get bumped up as the year went on but a lot of it was pp mins. Until he regularly gets shifts against someone other than 4th lines then its hard to say he wasn't bottom pairing.

I like franson, i think he's a big piece going forward. We need to find out if he can handle more responsibility.

I think this is a lot of what people were trying to say. Franson played the lowest quality of opponents last year. He did get bumped up as the year went on but a lot of it was pp mins. Until he regularly gets shifts against someone other than 4th lines then its hard to say he wasn't bottom pairing.

I like franson, i think he's a big piece going forward. We need to find out if he can handle more responsibility.
- burn

....before he gets the big contract

i agree with you completely.

http://deadspin.com/leafs...-wearing-jerse-1293700814

As a #5 guy getting sheltered mins.
- burn

As the season went on he went from 14 to over 20 minutes with added defensive respon......


(frank) didn't you read the tsn propaganda???

As the season went on he went from 14 to over 20 minutes with added defensive respon......


(frank) didn't you read the tsn propaganda???



- robin_steele264

Its ok i watched the games. its true to a degree, But he was still bottom pair.

http://deadspin.com/leafs-fan-allegedly-exposed-himself-while-wearing-jerse-1293700814


- Pecafan Fan

what a tool... if his name was Dave...he might have got away with it

http://deadspin.com/leafs-fan-allegedly-exposed-himself-while-wearing-jerse-1293700814


- Pecafan Fan

This is Nazem Kadri's fault, if you ask Dreger.

WTF?

that just comes right out of nowhere

Its ok i watched the games. its true to a degree, But he was still bottom pair.
- burn

Would you rank him as the 5/6 guy on the current depth chart?

....before he gets the big contract

i agree with you completely.
- Dozzer

So is it just a matter of you and I disagreeing on what that contract is?

....before he gets the big contract

i agree with you completely.
- Dozzer

there will not be a big hole in D lineup with him sitting out. He has to realize that if he sits out, the team will barely miss him, and his negotiating power will be completely gone.

even with him the lineup, I still see him in the bottom pairing with Fraser and getting PP time.

http://deadspin.com/leafs-fan-allegedly-exposed-himself-while-wearing-jerse-1293700814


- Pecafan Fan

Heard this on the radio this morning.

Senators fan wearing a Leaf jersey - had to put his name on it so no one would steal that prized jersey away from him.

Would you rank him as the 5/6 guy on the current depth chart?
- robin_steele264

do you really need to ask this question? Look back over the last 20 pages.

As the season went on he went from 14 to over 20 minutes with added defensive respon......


(frank) didn't you read the tsn propaganda???



- robin_steele264

he was still the bottom pair.

the reason his ice time went up was:

1: PP time and

2: opposition teams would approach games with the leafs as grinding checking games. so we saw a lot more of their checking lines than normal. so because they tried to wear the leafs down (beat them at their own game so to speak) that meant that franson fraser got more minutes.. because their matchups were on the ice more.

do you really need to ask this question? Look back over the last 20 pages.
- mykokes

Yeah I saw Liles in the top 4


That's how deep we are

So is it just a matter of you and I disagreeing on what that contract is?
- mykokes

he should be signed.. 2 to 2.5 million range.. if he proves he can handle tougher assignments.. then big contract next time

but not until he proves it.

his most successful years were under trotz and carlyle who both sheltered him from hard defensive assignments. one trick pony up to this point.. if he proves himself worth, fantastic.. if not.. well then he is on the right pay scale.

he was still the bottom pair.

the reason his ice time went up was:

1: PP time and

2: opposition teams would approach games with the leafs as grinding checking games. so we saw a lot more of their checking lines than normal. so because they tried to wear the leafs down (beat them at their own game so to speak) that meant that franson fraser got more minutes.. because their matchups were on the ice more.
- Dozzer

I thought he was the 2nd best dman last season

there will not be a big hole in D lineup with him sitting out. He has to realize that if he sits out, the team will barely miss him, and his negotiating power will be completely gone.

even with him the lineup, I still see him in the bottom pairing with Fraser and getting PP time.
- vermie22

nope, insert liles.

done.